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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:18 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:A telegram was sent to everyone who posted in this thread, except for Ark.
This should give a relatively comprehensive explanation of who's who. Even if you're clearly active, respond anyway so I can post the collective count of active people and Senators here.

Shouldn't Ark get one too? Ao he can get over here and sort stuff out.

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Tiberium Imperium
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Postby Tiberium Imperium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:01 pm

'Ello everyone. Whats up?
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:02 pm

Tiberium Imperium wrote:'Ello everyone. Whats up?

Umh. Nothing at all.

Really, we have pretty much decided to retconn the entire day. NOTHING happened. Everyone was in the Varangian temple praying, as is customary during Sundays.

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Postby Tiberium Imperium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:03 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:'Ello everyone. Whats up?

Umh. Nothing at all.

Really, we have pretty much decided to retconn the entire day. NOTHING happened. Everyone was in the Varangian temple praying, as is customary during Sundays.

It is my B-Day today and my party with my friends was awesome.
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:07 pm

Tiberium Imperium wrote:'Ello everyone. Whats up?

Oh god, that's hilarious. :lol2:

You missed a lot, Tiberium. Sorry. Tanks aimed at the Senate, claimants being tried for treason, parties failing ...
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:09 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:'Ello everyone. Whats up?

Umh. Nothing at all.

Really, we have pretty much decided to retconn the entire day. NOTHING happened. Everyone was in the Varangian temple praying, as is customary during Sundays.

I'm against the retcon as there may be a better alternative

As far as the voting, to keep us from reposting acts and redecating and revoting we should just use the majority of 7 from now on
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:09 pm

Tiberium Imperium wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Umh. Nothing at all.

Really, we have pretty much decided to retconn the entire day. NOTHING happened. Everyone was in the Varangian temple praying, as is customary during Sundays.

It is my B-Day today and my party with my friends was awesome.

IT. DID. NOT. HAPPEN

But, no, jokes aside. Happy Birthday, I hope it was pretty nice.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:10 pm

Ok, Ark, essentially.

Laws have been passed without a majority.

This lead to Jonathan's coup.

We are now wondering, how many senators are there. And, should we retconn the day?

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Postby Tiberium Imperium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:11 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:It is my B-Day today and my party with my friends was awesome.

IT. DID. NOT. HAPPEN

But, no, jokes aside. Happy Birthday, I hope it was pretty nice.

It was wonderful.
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:17 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:Ok, Ark, essentially.

Laws have been passed without a majority.

This lead to Jonathan's coup.

We are now wondering, how many senators are there. And, should we retconn the day?

Decide amongst yourselves, please. I'm honestly in the middle on this one.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:20 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Ok, Ark, essentially.

Laws have been passed without a majority.

This lead to Jonathan's coup.

We are now wondering, how many senators are there. And, should we retconn the day?

Decide amongst yourselves, please. I'm honestly in the middle on this one.

But, what about the amount of senators? Should we have a vote on this? ANd who should vote? The senators? BUt how many senators? ANd how many non-voters? ARGH! So many questions!

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:23 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Decide amongst yourselves, please. I'm honestly in the middle on this one.

But, what about the amount of senators? Should we have a vote on this? ANd who should vote? The senators? BUt how many senators? ANd how many non-voters? ARGH! So many questions!


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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:24 pm

Arkolon wrote:
Tiberium Imperium wrote:'Ello everyone. Whats up?

Oh god, that's hilarious. :lol2:

You missed a lot, Tiberium. Sorry. Tanks aimed at the Senate, claimants being tried for treason, parties failing ...


Well his party obviously didn't fail, but I'll give a summary.

–Demos and Tiberi draft a deal to attack Intonarl, after Intonarl and Demos make a deal to assault Tiberi.

–Jonathan disappears from the Floor, and hides in a castle.

–Tanks of Jonathan's start moving towards Corburn City.

–L113 gets passed. M102 is motioned to make it effective immediately in order to stop a potential coup, but A102 holds it up.

–In OOC debate, L108 is debated as to whether or not it restricts Jonathan's actions.

–Once L113 passes, Jonathan (OOC) realises two opposing fates are impending.

–Ark says that Jonathan can not destroy the Senate. At the time, I was against it to! but looking back had all the Senators survived, a second coup against Jonathan would've been interesting.

–Jonathan resigns. Upon checking, it's noted that nothing after L108 even passed with a majority. Outrage ensues.

–Proposals are made to retcon the day.

—You show up.
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Arkolon
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:26 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Oh god, that's hilarious. :lol2:

You missed a lot, Tiberium. Sorry. Tanks aimed at the Senate, claimants being tried for treason, parties failing ...


Well his party obviously didn't fail, but I'll give a summary.

–Demos and Tiberi draft a deal to attack Intonarl, after Intonarl and Demos make a deal to assault Tiberi.

–Jonathan disappears from the Floor, and hides in a castle.

–Tanks of Jonathan's start moving towards Corburn City.

–L113 gets passed. M102 is motioned to make it effective immediately in order to stop a potential coup, but A102 holds it up.

–In OOC debate, L108 is debated as to whether or not it restricts Jonathan's actions.

–Once L113 passes, Jonathan (OOC) realises two opposing fates are impending.

–Ark says that Jonathan can not destroy the Senate. At the time, I was against it to! but looking back had all the Senators survived, a second coup against Jonathan would've been interesting.

–Jonathan resigns. Upon checking, it's noted that nothing after L108 even passed with a majority. Outrage ensues.

–Proposals are made to retcon the day.

—You show up.

So yeah.

Also, damn. I made one finite decision in this RP, for once, and it leads to a boring finale where everyone wishes I would have allowed the total blowing up of the Senate building instead.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:27 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Oh god, that's hilarious. :lol2:

You missed a lot, Tiberium. Sorry. Tanks aimed at the Senate, claimants being tried for treason, parties failing ...


Well his party obviously didn't fail, but I'll give a summary.

–Demos and Tiberi draft a deal to attack Intonarl, after Intonarl and Demos make a deal to assault Tiberi.

–Jonathan disappears from the Floor, and hides in a castle.

–Tanks of Jonathan's start moving towards Corburn City.

–L113 gets passed. M102 is motioned to make it effective immediately in order to stop a potential coup, but A102 holds it up.

–In OOC debate, L108 is debated as to whether or not it restricts Jonathan's actions.

–Once L113 passes, Jonathan (OOC) realises two opposing fates are impending.

–Ark says that Jonathan can not destroy the Senate. At the time, I was against it to! but looking back had all the Senators survived, a second coup against Jonathan would've been interesting.

–Jonathan resigns. Upon checking, it's noted that nothing after L108 even passed with a majority. Outrage ensues.

–Proposals are made to retcon the day.

—You show up.

Pretty much sums up the day. Good job. Also, what exactly are you working on? Oh right, the amount of senators. But still, should the day be retconned or not? Or just partly? Should there be a coup? Should Jonathan return? Should the coup have been brought down by voting in the OOC? So many questions.

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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:28 pm

Arkolon wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
Well his party obviously didn't fail, but I'll give a summary.

–Demos and Tiberi draft a deal to attack Intonarl, after Intonarl and Demos make a deal to assault Tiberi.

–Jonathan disappears from the Floor, and hides in a castle.

–Tanks of Jonathan's start moving towards Corburn City.

–L113 gets passed. M102 is motioned to make it effective immediately in order to stop a potential coup, but A102 holds it up.

–In OOC debate, L108 is debated as to whether or not it restricts Jonathan's actions.

–Once L113 passes, Jonathan (OOC) realises two opposing fates are impending.

–Ark says that Jonathan can not destroy the Senate. At the time, I was against it to! but looking back had all the Senators survived, a second coup against Jonathan would've been interesting.

–Jonathan resigns. Upon checking, it's noted that nothing after L108 even passed with a majority. Outrage ensues.

–Proposals are made to retcon the day.

—You show up.

So yeah.

Also, damn. I made one finite decision in this RP, for once, and it leads to a boring finale where everyone wishes I would have allowed the total blowing up of the Senate building instead.

Well, you know, it would have been fun. We could have had some civil war between the military, old militaries, police, private police, mobsters, paramilitaries etc. And in the midst of it all, the senate. Debating about new laws regarding the Safe Kitten Act.

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Winovia
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:29 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Decide amongst yourselves, please. I'm honestly in the middle on this one.

But, what about the amount of senators? Should we have a vote on this? ANd who should vote? The senators? BUt how many senators? ANd how many non-voters? ARGH! So many questions!

I think only active senators should be counted
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:31 pm

Winovia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:But, what about the amount of senators? Should we have a vote on this? ANd who should vote? The senators? BUt how many senators? ANd how many non-voters? ARGH! So many questions!

I think only active senators should be counted

But then the current government is in a minority, from being in a majority. Or we just split the votes by party popularity. Or we hold an election. Or we temporarily suspend the senate as Jonathan is holding his coup, and we instead replace it with a war-time council, with the current senators there. Basically a new senate.

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Kubrath
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Postby Kubrath » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:32 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Oh god, that's hilarious. :lol2:

You missed a lot, Tiberium. Sorry. Tanks aimed at the Senate, claimants being tried for treason, parties failing ...


Well his party obviously didn't fail, but I'll give a summary.

–Demos and Tiberi draft a deal to attack Intonarl, after Intonarl and Demos make a deal to assault Tiberi.

–Jonathan disappears from the Floor, and hides in a castle.

–Tanks of Jonathan's start moving towards Corburn City.

–L113 gets passed. M102 is motioned to make it effective immediately in order to stop a potential coup, but A102 holds it up.

–In OOC debate, L108 is debated as to whether or not it restricts Jonathan's actions.

–Once L113 passes, Jonathan (OOC) realises two opposing fates are impending.

–Ark says that Jonathan can not destroy the Senate. At the time, I was against it to! but looking back had all the Senators survived, a second coup against Jonathan would've been interesting.

–Jonathan resigns. Upon checking, it's noted that nothing after L108 even passed with a majority. Outrage ensues.

–Proposals are made to retcon the day.

—You show up.


:rofl: Great job, guys! Next issue would tackle the question if things could get even more screwed up than they currently are.
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Tiberium Imperium
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Postby Tiberium Imperium » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:33 pm

Has the Senate been informed of the potential coup?
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:33 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Winovia wrote:I think only active senators should be counted

But then the current government is in a minority, from being in a majority. Or we just split the votes by party popularity. Or we hold an election. Or we temporarily suspend the senate as Jonathan is holding his coup, and we instead replace it with a war-time council, with the current senators there. Basically a new senate.

See? I'm loving this attitude. You're not only creating the world yourself: you're creating the game itself. Power to the players, comrade!
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Winovia
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:35 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Winovia wrote:I think only active senators should be counted

But then the current government is in a minority, from being in a majority. Or we just split the votes by party popularity. Or we hold an election. Or we temporarily suspend the senate as Jonathan is holding his coup, and we instead replace it with a war-time council, with the current senators there. Basically a new senate.

Well tje government was elected before all active senators joined which is unfair anyways, we could impeach the PM and government altogether and let the majority party form their government.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:40 pm

Winovia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:But then the current government is in a minority, from being in a majority. Or we just split the votes by party popularity. Or we hold an election. Or we temporarily suspend the senate as Jonathan is holding his coup, and we instead replace it with a war-time council, with the current senators there. Basically a new senate.

Well tje government was elected before all active senators joined which is unfair anyways, we could impeach the PM and government altogether and let the majority party form their government.

Correct.
But we now also have more senators meaning some laws might have (not) passed.


We obviously have to restart everything *nods*
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:41 pm

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:41 pm

Tiberium Imperium wrote:Has the Senate been informed of the potential coup?

Umh, actually no... We only know about it OOC. However I think a new law or something has been passed with OOC knowledge or something.

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