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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:46 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Thanks, but I'll pass.
Was fun to cause trouble, and bring the republic to its endAnd yes, that would've been it's end - had you not intervened,
but now any other role would bore me to death, having experienced the plots of war and revolution, and being limited to more.... conform actions.


Actually, you could go into hiding as Jonathan still, report as a journalist under a pseudonym (Nahtanoj of Corburn-Kohr?), and continue to cause issues. If you're still interested in the role play, that is.

Imperium Nova wrote:Eh... Eh...

I don't think the Varangians will be too pleased about this.

Also, I guess the Monarchist party is quite, riveled, by this latest announcement.


Don't tell me some party ratings aren't severally changing as a result.

How?
With myself being in the castle, with the tanks and army, and ark forbidding me to take the tanks downhill, I probably don't even have a reasonable way to leave the castle and survive.....

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Sorry for Double Post.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:46 pm

Perhaps one should become a CEO. What do you do as one of those anyways? I'd just cruise around on the broken streets in my limousine, surrounded by private policemen to fend off all the poor beggars.

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
Actually, you could go into hiding as Jonathan still, report as a journalist under a pseudonym (Nahtanoj of Corburn-Kohr?), and continue to cause issues. If you're still interested in the role play, that is.



Don't tell me some party ratings aren't severally changing as a result.

How?
With myself being in the castle, with the tanks and army, and ark forbidding me to take the tanks downhill, I probably don't even have a reasonable way to leave the castle and survive.....


Tunnels.
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 pm

Kinitaria wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Well, we have no courts. Is it even a crime?

There aren't any crimes, because the criminal code never passed.

...which, of course, means that nothing anyone does to the conspirators is illegal.

The Criminal Code did pass
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:49 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:How?
With myself being in the castle, with the tanks and army, and ark forbidding me to take the tanks downhill, I probably don't even have a reasonable way to leave the castle and survive.....


Tunnels.

Which would suddenly appear?
I thought it was you who mentioned godmod?
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:49 pm

Winovia wrote:
Kinitaria wrote:There aren't any crimes, because the criminal code never passed.

...which, of course, means that nothing anyone does to the conspirators is illegal.

The Criminal Code did pass

But has Jonathan done anything illegal? I mean, he collected his tanks and sutff, and violated his position as Minister of Defence, but that is not a crime. So, he is just free to go, probably relieving him of his duties as Minister of Defence. But otherwise, I think people have worse stuff to care about in Somalia Corburn.

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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:50 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
Tunnels.

Which would suddenly appear?
I thought it was you who mentioned godmod?

It's your castle. Just sneak out.

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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:51 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
Tunnels.

Which would suddenly appear?
I thought it was you who mentioned godmod?

You never mentioned not having tunnels in the castle so.....
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:51 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Which would suddenly appear?
I thought it was you who mentioned godmod?

It's your castle. Just sneak out.


Who said there weren't tunnels in the first place?
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:52 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Winovia wrote:The Criminal Code did pass

But has Jonathan done anything illegal? I mean, he collected his tanks and sutff, and violated his position as Minister of Defence, but that is not a crime. So, he is just free to go, probably relieving him of his duties as Minister of Defence. But otherwise, I think people have worse stuff to care about in Somalia Corburn.

Yes he committed treason,
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:53 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Thanks, but I'll pass.
Was fun to cause trouble, and bring the republic to its endAnd yes, that would've been it's end - had you not intervened,
but now any other role would bore me to death, having experienced the plots of war and revolution, and being limited to more.... conform actions.


Actually, you could go into hiding as Jonathan still, report as a journalist under a pseudonym (Nahtanoj of Corburn-Kohr?), and continue to cause issues. If you're still interested in the role play, that is.

Imperium Nova wrote:Eh... Eh...

I don't think the Varangians will be too pleased about this.

Also, I guess the Monarchist party is quite, riveled, by this latest announcement.


Don't tell me some party ratings aren't severally changing as a result.

As said on page 4, we don't really have a coup d'état module. The only thing that would change the poll ratings is Jon leaving. I think we will have to terminate the Monarchist Party, and have the current Monarchists join the CNP (the party), or alternatively the Conservatives. For realism's sake.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:53 pm

Winovia wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:But has Jonathan done anything illegal? I mean, he collected his tanks and sutff, and violated his position as Minister of Defence, but that is not a crime. So, he is just free to go, probably relieving him of his duties as Minister of Defence. But otherwise, I think people have worse stuff to care about in Somalia Corburn.

Yes he committed treason,

He just rolled some tanks out.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:54 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Which would suddenly appear?
I thought it was you who mentioned godmod?

It's your castle. Just sneak out.

And risking some random republican/socialist/anti-monarchist-nationalist taking potshots at me?
Or do you want me to march out with the whole army, to only call for intervention from the other areas of Corburn and possibly engage in a firefight with Tiberium's people.
The New World Oceania wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:It's your castle. Just sneak out.


Who said there weren't tunnels in the first place?

Who said there were?


But wait a second, let me understand?
Winovia, NWO, you two, adversaries in your views, a Libertarian and a Socialist, who united in their opinion against my monarchism, are now asking me to find a reason to stay?
After you tried to claim law clauses against me?

Just to make sure I understand the scenario.......
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:54 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Winovia wrote:Yes he committed treason,

He just rolled some tanks out.

L113.
The law that created the coup, per se.
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:56 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:He just rolled some tanks out.

L113.
The law that created the coup, per se.

Oh, but is that a crime? I really should read more of the legislations.

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:56 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:It's your castle. Just sneak out.

And risking some random republican/socialist/anti-monarchist-nationalist taking potshots at me?
Or do you want me to march out with the whole army, to only call for intervention from the other areas of Corburn and possibly engage in a firefight with Tiberium's people.
The New World Oceania wrote:
Who said there weren't tunnels in the first place?

Who said there were?


But wait a second, let me understand?
Winovia, NWO, you two, adversaries in your views, a Libertarian and a Socialist, who united in their opinion against my monarchism, are now asking me to find a reason to stay?
After you tried to claim law clauses against me?

Just to make sure I understand the scenario.......


There's no roleplay without conflict.
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Mario Cerce, Member of the Red - Green Alliance, Fighting for your Fernão!
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Wen Lin, Governor of Jinyu
Ahmed Alef, Member for South Hutnegeri
Dagmar
Elise Marlowe, Member for Varland
Calaverde
Alsafyr Njil, Minister of Justice
Vienna Eliot et. al, Poets
Dick Njil, Journalist
Assad Hazouri, Mayor of Masalbhumi
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:57 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:And risking some random republican/socialist/anti-monarchist-nationalist taking potshots at me?
Or do you want me to march out with the whole army, to only call for intervention from the other areas of Corburn and possibly engage in a firefight with Tiberium's people.

Who said there were?


But wait a second, let me understand?
Winovia, NWO, you two, adversaries in your views, a Libertarian and a Socialist, who united in their opinion against my monarchism, are now asking me to find a reason to stay?
After you tried to claim law clauses against me?

Just to make sure I understand the scenario.......


There's no roleplay without conflict.

*laughs*
And claims of godmod, are conflict too?
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:59 pm

Still, how did L113 pass? Did anyone from the government approve it?

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:59 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:Still, how did L113 pass? Did anyone from the government approve it?

No idea.
I think some voted for it before it's amendment.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:01 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
There's no roleplay without conflict.

*laughs*
And claims of godmod, are conflict too?


Aw, you must be offended. Go back to NSG Senate, then. Do it all over with your rhinoceros party and we'll find a new Senator to disagree with.

Great having you here, now you can go. I'm not arguing your stay.
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Vienna Eliot et. al, Poets
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:01 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:Still, how did L113 pass? Did anyone from the government approve it?

No idea.
I think some voted for it before it's amendment.

I did not vote for it, and I don't think you or James voted for it, which means it did not pass. I might be completely wrong on this though.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:05 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:*laughs*
And claims of godmod, are conflict too?


Aw, you must be offended.

Yes, that is something that tends to be slightly offensive.
Do it all over with your rhinoceros party

I prefer not to answer to that.
Great having you here, now you can go. I'm not arguing your stay.

Sure.

Regardless, good luck then Ark, with your rp.
If you sometime make a third incarnation, feel free to shoot me a tg or. Or not, might be better for its longevity ;)
Good Luck Monarchists, Tiberium, all the socialists who I enjoyed to debate with, Jamessonia.

Imperium Nova wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:No idea.
I think some voted for it before it's amendment.

I did not vote for it, and I don't think you or James voted for it, which means it did not pass. I might be completely wrong on this though.

The former seems correct. The latter, I think due to Tiberium and the other conservative abandoning the coalition it did. But I too may be wrong.
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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:26 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Imperium Nova wrote:It's your castle. Just sneak out.

And risking some random republican/socialist/anti-monarchist-nationalist taking potshots at me?
Or do you want me to march out with the whole army, to only call for intervention from the other areas of Corburn and possibly engage in a firefight with Tiberium's people.
The New World Oceania wrote:
Who said there weren't tunnels in the first place?

Who said there were?


But wait a second, let me understand?
Winovia, NWO, you two, adversaries in your views, a Libertarian and a Socialist, who united in their opinion against my monarchism, are now asking me to find a reason to stay?
After you tried to claim law clauses against me?

Just to make sure I understand the scenario.......

I wanted to thwart your plan not make you leave the rp
Imperium Nova wrote:Still, how did L113 pass? Did anyone from the government approve it?

It passed with the inactive Socialist vote, which gave it a majority
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:28 pm

Winovia wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:And risking some random republican/socialist/anti-monarchist-nationalist taking potshots at me?
Or do you want me to march out with the whole army, to only call for intervention from the other areas of Corburn and possibly engage in a firefight with Tiberium's people.

Who said there were?


But wait a second, let me understand?
Winovia, NWO, you two, adversaries in your views, a Libertarian and a Socialist, who united in their opinion against my monarchism, are now asking me to find a reason to stay?
After you tried to claim law clauses against me?

Just to make sure I understand the scenario.......

I wanted to thwart your plan not make you leave the rp
Imperium Nova wrote:Still, how did L113 pass? Did anyone from the government approve it?

It passed with the inactive Socialist vote, which gave it a majority

But the government holds a majority, right? And if no one from it voted, then...

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Postby Winovia » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:29 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Winovia wrote:I wanted to thwart your plan not make you leave the rp
It passed with the inactive Socialist vote, which gave it a majority

But the government holds a majority, right? And if no one from it voted, then...

No there are 5 Socilist (including the inactive, plus Oceania, which forms a majority
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