Republics of the World [SEMI-OPEN] Discussion Thread

[Winovia]

Who gets to control the vote?

Chief Whip

Oh, how nice.....

Yeah..... no they don't, not most people in the world at least

True. But would you rather live in Somalia or Scandinavia?

Neither, I'm perfectly fine being an American, if I had to choose though Scandinaia

[Arkolon]

Yeah..... no they don't, not most people in the world at least

True. But would you rather live in Somalia or Scandinavia?

Even I don't advocate the Somalian model.

[Imperium Nova]

Who gets to control the vote?

Chief Whip

How would it cost $300 a year? Also, the police would cut corners, perhaps cut down on some unit. Also, every police station can't be prepared for everything. They would lack the resources for it all. Also, sure they may spend it on something you don't like, like protection for yourself? I am not saying that Corburn might have some liberals and libertarians in it, but this has just gone too far. For them to vote on a party which decreases the state is just ridiculous. Also, living in a society with some of the world's highest taxes, Sweden, i can still tell you that an overwhelming majority of the people want higher taxes. Despite the taxes being at least 2x higher than that of Corburn.

You just saw me do the maths... It would cost $300 a year because $100,000 x 0.003 = $300. "Also, every police station can't be prepared for everything. They would lack the resources for it all." -- well, doesn't that completely destroy your "state police is better" argument? Not decreasing the state, just keeping it as is, as as you have pointed out, we can't have less of a state.

Like The New Lowlands said, no one wants higher taxes. Nuh uh. If they wanted to help their community they would spend their money on local goods, helping the economy, not wasting it on politicians' pay.

I suppose that most of our differences stem from me living in the social-democratic Glorious North European Motherland. Ура!

Luxembourg here, which would put us in the same boat.

How would it destroy the state police is better argument? The state police is one unified force, also you have to count that the owners of the police want money too, increasing the cost. Also, how much do te collected politicians cost each citizen? One, two dollars?

[Imperium Nova]

True. But would you rather live in Somalia or Scandinavia?

Even I don't advocate the Somalian model.

I don't think anyone advocates the Somalian model. Except for the people in Corburn.

[The Jonathanian States]

A) Ark, my IC post has been edited. Look at it, but please only comment via tg,ok?
B) IIRC, days don't progress on sundays, but does that mean I also can't have it turn night in a later post (With the one I have being at day)?

[Arkolon]

A) Ark, my IC post has been edited. Look at it, but please only comment via tg,ok?
B) IIRC, days don't progress on sundays, but does that mean I also can't have it turn night in a later post (With the one I have being at day)?

Sure.

[The Jonathanian States]

A) Ark, my IC post has been edited. Look at it, but please only comment via tg,ok?
B) IIRC, days don't progress on sundays, but does that mean I also can't have it turn night in a later post (With the one I have being at day)?

Sure.

I can, or cannot?

[Arkolon]

Chief Whip


You just saw me do the maths... It would cost $300 a year because $100,000 x 0.003 = $300. "Also, every police station can't be prepared for everything. They would lack the resources for it all." -- well, doesn't that completely destroy your "state police is better" argument? Not decreasing the state, just keeping it as is, as as you have pointed out, we can't have less of a state.

Like The New Lowlands said, no one wants higher taxes. Nuh uh. If they wanted to help their community they would spend their money on local goods, helping the economy, not wasting it on politicians' pay.


Luxembourg here, which would put us in the same boat.

How would it destroy the state police is better argument? The state police is one unified force, also you have to count that the owners of the police want money too, increasing the cost. Also, how much do te collected politicians cost each citizen? One, two dollars?

$100bn divided by 313.9mn is $318.57. It changes nothing.

[Arkolon]

Sure.

I can, or cannot?

Go ahead.

Also, the trends sheet now includes party poll ratings! Note that they are less volatile as they were before because what previously changed them was how many OOC senators the party had, which effectively changed a lot. Now we're taking into account all 14 OOC senators.

[The Jonathanian States]

I can, or cannot?

Go ahead.

Also, the trends sheet now includes party poll ratings! Note that they are less volatile as they were before because what previously changed them was how many OOC senators the party had, which effectively changed a lot. Now we're taking into account all 14 OOC senators.

Great.

Also, that's quite a major voter loss the ICP would have from the CP and MP.....

[Arkolon]

Go ahead.

Also, the trends sheet now includes party poll ratings! Note that they are less volatile as they were before because what previously changed them was how many OOC senators the party had, which effectively changed a lot. Now we're taking into account all 14 OOC senators.

Great.

Also, that's quite a major voter loss the ICP would have from the CP and MP.....

I've already said that it would have been more efficient if the CP and MP didn't merge, as a lot of people seem to have disagreed with it.

I'm honestly not so sure as to why this is. This spreadsheet has a mind of its own.

[The Jonathanian States]

Great.

Also, that's quite a major voter loss the ICP would have from the CP and MP.....

I've already said that it would have been more efficient if the CP and MP didn't merge, as a lot of people seem to have disagreed with it.

I'm honestly not so sure as to why this is. This spreadsheet has a mind of its own.

Would that be the loss of our second voter groups each?

[Arkolon]

I've already said that it would have been more efficient if the CP and MP didn't merge, as a lot of people seem to have disagreed with it.

I'm honestly not so sure as to why this is. This spreadsheet has a mind of its own.

Would that be the loss of our second voter groups each?

~gives tjs a nobel prize~

Congratulations ahha, (non-sarcastically) well done for finding that

God I feel stupid now.

[Imperium Nova]

How would it destroy the state police is better argument? The state police is one unified force, also you have to count that the owners of the police want money too, increasing the cost. Also, how much do te collected politicians cost each citizen? One, two dollars?

$100bn divided by 313.9mn is $318.57. It changes nothing.

I am on my phone so I can't really write any large posts. Essentially though, 100 billion dollars is 100 billion dollars, but differently distributed. It all becomes more inefficient with many police departments. Let's say we have 100 police departments (they are essentially mobsters too, getting paid to protect you), each police department needs a couple of stuffa. Some policemen, higher officers and leadership etc. But due to costs the police departments can only have one drug investigating policeman each, and some can not even have that, instead getting one specialist on kidnapping. This means that if this police department would have to solve a crime, they will have just one person on it. They might not either afford a big computer data base or some big machine, because it costs too much to have it just for them.

[The Jonathanian States]

Would that be the loss of our second voter groups each?

~gives tjs a nobel prize~

Congratulations ahha, (non-sarcastically) well done for finding that

God I feel stupid now.

I would like to thank my parents, for having created me, my evolution, for having made me what I am, Max Barry for creating NS, Ark, for creating this game and always being there to receive my slightly spammy tg's, Tiberium for having joined me early, Nova for still being at my Side, Jamessonia for cooperating and making me MoD, Winovia for inspiring me (to prevent his rise), the socialists for chopping off the head of the rebellious King, the Conservatives for having such a nice club, and many more, who I'll not list (for now).


Also,really, Ark? Really? You missed that?
Disappointed. Very disappointed. The Tributes to the emperor will have to be doubled so we can start to believe in you again.

Yes, you should^not.

[Arkolon]

$100bn divided by 313.9mn is $318.57. It changes nothing.

I am on my phone so I can't really write any large posts. Essentially though, 100 billion dollars is 100 billion dollars, but differently distributed. It all becomes more inefficient with many police departments. Let's say we have 100 police departments (they are essentially mobsters too, getting paid to protect you), each police department needs a couple of stuffa. Some policemen, higher officers and leadership etc. But due to costs the police departments can only have one drug investigating policeman each, and some can not even have that, instead getting one specialist on kidnapping. This means that if this police department would have to solve a crime, they will have just one person on it. They might not either afford a big computer data base or some big machine, because it costs too much to have it just for them.

Supply and demand. People want protection: investors see an opportunity. Investors give money to private police departments, and in turn the police departments are now operating and charge for their services. The money received goes to the private police departments and to their major shareholders, the investors. Everyone is well-protected and everyone has their money.

[Imperium Nova]

~gives tjs a nobel prize~

Congratulations ahha, (non-sarcastically) well done for finding that

God I feel stupid now.

I would like to thank my parents, for having created me, my evolution, for having made me what I am, Max Barry for creating NS, Ark, for creating this game and always being there to receive my slightly spammy tg's, Tiberium for having joined me early, Nova for still being at my Side, Jamessonia for cooperating and making me MoD, Winovia for inspiring me (to prevent his rise), the socialists for chopping off the head of the rebellious King, the Conservatives for having such a nice club, and many more, who I'll not list (for now).


Also,really, Ark? Really? You missed that?
Disappointed. Very disappointed. The Tributes to the emperor will have to be doubled so we can start to believe in you again.

Yes, you should^not.

So, should we keep the partys split?

[Arkolon]

~gives tjs a nobel prize~

Congratulations ahha, (non-sarcastically) well done for finding that

God I feel stupid now.

I would like to thank my parents, for having created me, my evolution, for having made me what I am, Max Barry for creating NS, Ark, for creating this game and always being there to receive my slightly spammy tg's, Tiberium for having joined me early, Nova for still being at my Side, Jamessonia for cooperating and making me MoD, Winovia for inspiring me (to prevent his rise), the socialists for chopping off the head of off the head of the rebellious King, the Conservatives for having such a nice club, and many more, who I'll not list (for now).

~laughs too loudly~

[The Jonathanian States]

I would like to thank my parents, for having created me, my evolution, for having made me what I am, Max Barry for creating NS, Ark, for creating this game and always being there to receive my slightly spammy tg's, Tiberium for having joined me early, Nova for still being at my Side, Jamessonia for cooperating and making me MoD, Winovia for inspiring me (to prevent his rise), the socialists for chopping off the head of off the head of the rebellious King, the Conservatives for having such a nice club, and many more, who I'll not list (for now).

~laughs too loudly~

Was it a bad speech?
Has it made me loose nationalist votes, by conceding that others helped me?
Should I revise it?

I would like to thank my parents, for having created me, my evolution, for having made me what I am, Max Barry for creating NS, Ark, for creating this game and always being there to receive my slightly spammy tg's, Tiberium for having joined me early, Nova for still being at my Side, Jamessonia for cooperating and making me MoD, Winovia for inspiring me (to prevent his rise), the socialists for chopping off the head of the rebellious King, the Conservatives for having such a nice club, and many more, who I'll not list (for now).


Also,really, Ark? Really? You missed that?
Disappointed. Very disappointed. The Tributes to the emperor will have to be doubled so we can start to believe in you again.

Yes, you should^not.

So, should we keep the partys split?

Maybe..... Ark, if we would stay different parties, but run for votes as a kind of Unified block, (Take CSU/CDU in germany), how would that affect our votes?

[Jamessonia]

Guys, I think the merger is good. It gives us the majority we need to reinstitute the monarchy, and then still be powerful.

[Arkolon]

~laughs too loudly~

Was it a bad speech?
Has it made me loose nationalist votes, by conceding that others helped me?
Should I revise it?

So, should we keep the partys split?

Maybe..... Ark, if we would stay different parties, but run for votes as a kind of Unified block, (Take CSU/CDU in germany), how would that affect our votes?

Your OOC senator count stays solid in any case, merger or not, meaning your voting power won't change. Your poll rating, however, together would be 30.42%.

[Jamessonia]

Was it a bad speech?
Has it made me loose nationalist votes, by conceding that others helped me?
Should I revise it?


Maybe..... Ark, if we would stay different parties, but run for votes as a kind of Unified block, (Take CSU/CDU in germany), how would that affect our votes?

Your OOC senator count stays solid in any case, merger or not, meaning your voting power won't change. Your poll rating, however, together would be 30.42%.

If we merged wouldn't that merge...?

What does poll place even do? I see no results, just numbers that mean nothing.

[Arkolon]

Your OOC senator count stays solid in any case, merger or not, meaning your voting power won't change. Your poll rating, however, together would be 30.42%.

If we merged wouldn't that merge...?

What does poll place even do? I see no results, just numbers that mean nothing.

Poll rating - what the people think of you, slash how many would vote for your party. It's useful in election time.

[Imperium Nova]

Your OOC senator count stays solid in any case, merger or not, meaning your voting power won't change. Your poll rating, however, together would be 30.42%.

If we merged wouldn't that merge...?

What does poll place even do? I see no results, just numbers that mean nothing.

Next election I'd believe.

[Jamessonia]

If we merged wouldn't that merge...?

What does poll place even do? I see no results, just numbers that mean nothing.

Poll rating - what the people think of you, slash how many would vote for your party. It's useful in election time.

But no matter the poll numbers, the fact remains that I have only 4 senators, and that much voting power. How does the poll help me, when the real majority is decided by how many players sign up for each party?