Republics of the World [SEMI-OPEN] Discussion Thread

[The Jonathanian States]

But a Monarch also would be hereditary.
You include election there.

Laws can be changed. They are also not any "large" laws or something like that, which we might have. Those would need to have an election in between changes so that a party can't turn the country upside down. Sort of basic laws. Like the constitution.

But a Monarch also would be hereditary.
You include election there.

I honestly think that an elective monarchy would be more practical.

Why so?
Also:

I honestly think that an elective monarchy would be more practical.

Also we would need some large base of aristocrats and nobles for that. At least that is how it was before.

We need a Communist Party, that'll liven the place up.

I'm pretty sure ark doesn't want more parties.
But the conservative slot might be vacant soon. Not guaranteed,yet.

We need a Communist Party, that'll liven the place up.

We barely have a libertarian party. All our parties seem to be going in one direction too.

Which is?

[The New Lowlands]

We need a Communist Party, that'll liven the place up.

We barely have a libertarian party. All our parties seem to be going in one direction too.

I'm not talking about a nice, sits-down-in-the-senate-with-tea communist party, I'm talking about ska-listening, beer-chugging, red-blooded, salt-of-the-earth borderline revolutionaries.

[Imperium Nova]

Laws can be changed. They are also not any "large" laws or something like that, which we might have. Those would need to have an election in between changes so that a party can't turn the country upside down. Sort of basic laws. Like the constitution.

I honestly think that an elective monarchy would be more practical.

Why so?
Also:

Also we would need some large base of aristocrats and nobles for that. At least that is how it was before.

We need a Communist Party, that'll liven the place up.

I'm pretty sure ark doesn't want more parties.
But the conservative slot might be vacant soon. Not guaranteed,yet.

We barely have a libertarian party. All our parties seem to be going in one direction too.

Which is?

Authoritative socialists.

[Imperium Nova]

We barely have a libertarian party. All our parties seem to be going in one direction too.

I'm not talking about a nice, sits-down-in-the-senate-with-tea communist party, I'm talking about ska-listening, beer-chugging, red-blooded, salt-of-the-earth borderline revolutionaries.

Oh, those types of communists. I see. Well, soon enough we'll have a police force. And currently there are no real restrictions on the military in the case of firing on civilians. The violence monopoly is not only in the hands of the police.

[The Jonathanian States]

I'm not talking about a nice, sits-down-in-the-senate-with-tea communist party, I'm talking about ska-listening, beer-chugging, red-blooded, salt-of-the-earth borderline revolutionaries.

Oh, those types of communists. I see. Well, soon enough we'll have a police force. And currently there are no real restrictions on the military in the case of firing on civilians. The violence monopoly is not only in the hands of the police.

Who needs a Military.
Let them be borderlines, but should they cross the borders, the guardians of the Old Order are ready and at arms.

[Kinitaria]

L107.

What was that act now again? I would suggest putting a link to every act on the summary, so they are easily findable.

I was just thinking the same thing...

L101: Monarchy Re-Institution Act (FAILED)
L102: The Council of Ministers Act (PASSED)
L103: Fair and Free Education Act (PASSED)
L104: National Railway Act (PASSED)
L105: Income Tax Act (PASSED)
L106: Senate Process Act (PASSED)
L107: Constitution Act (AT VOTE)
L108: Ministry of Defense Act (PASSED)
L109: Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn (AT VOTE)
L110: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L111: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L112: State Executive Act (AT VOTE)
L113: Armed Forces Act (DRAFT)

A101: Amendment to the Senate Process Act (AT VOTE)

M101: Motion for Moderated Caucus (AT VOTE)

We barely have a libertarian party. All our parties seem to be going in one direction too.

I'm not talking about a nice, sits-down-in-the-senate-with-tea communist party, I'm talking about ska-listening, beer-chugging, red-blooded, salt-of-the-earth borderline revolutionaries.

Nothing to say they don't exist and just don't stand for Senate elections. Maybe there are communists causing havoc on the streets of Corburn right now.

[Imperium Nova]

What was that act now again? I would suggest putting a link to every act on the summary, so they are easily findable.

I was just thinking the same thing...

L101: Monarchy Re-Institution Act (FAILED)
L102: The Council of Ministers Act (PASSED)
L103: Fair and Free Education Act (PASSED)
L104: National Railway Act (PASSED)
L105: Income Tax Act (PASSED)
L106: Senate Process Act (PASSED)
L107: Constitution Act (AT VOTE)
L108: Ministry of Defense Act (PASSED)
L109: Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn (AT VOTE)
L110: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L111: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L112: State Executive Act (AT VOTE)
L113: Armed Forces Act (DRAFT)

A101: Amendment to the Senate Process Act (AT VOTE)

M101: Motion for Moderated Caucus (AT VOTE)

I'm not talking about a nice, sits-down-in-the-senate-with-tea communist party, I'm talking about ska-listening, beer-chugging, red-blooded, salt-of-the-earth borderline revolutionaries.

Nothing to say they don't exist and just don't stand for Senate elections. Maybe there are communists causing havoc on the streets of Corburn right now.

Nice list. And also, there sure might be. Are criminal stuff even illegal yet? I mean, it will be at least six months until we get a police force.

[Jamessonia]

James I'm not senator ellison

Sorry.

[Prospect Landings]

Don't we have some fringe parties, represented by the Other category. Some Corburnian rabble rousers no doubt are screaming obscenities at us from the backbenches.

[The Jonathanian States]

Nothing to say they don't exist and just don't stand for Senate elections. Maybe there are communists causing havoc on the streets of Corburn right now.

Not on my watch^{Ok, technically it's the paramilitary's watch}

Don't we have some fringe parties, represented by the Other category. Some Corburnian rabble rousers no doubt are screaming obscenities at us from the backbenches.

Yes, we do, and they probably are.

[The New Lowlands]

Don't we have some fringe parties, represented by the Other category. Some Corburnian rabble rousers no doubt are screaming obscenities at us from the backbenches.

*grumbles about reactionaries*

[Prospect Landings]

Don't we have some fringe parties, represented by the Other category. Some Corburnian rabble rousers no doubt are screaming obscenities at us from the backbenches.

*grumbles about reactionaries*

Ideologically, every major party in Corburn is a reactionary party ;/

[The Jonathanian States]

Don't we have some fringe parties, represented by the Other category. Some Corburnian rabble rousers no doubt are screaming obscenities at us from the backbenches.

*grumbles about reactionaries*

Nope, we are here - Amongst the 4 major parties.
Also, I'm pretty sure I explained how un-reactionary we are for a monarchist party.

EDIT:

*grumbles about reactionaries*

Ideologically, every major party in Corburn is a reactionary party ;/

That is true.
Except for maybe the Libertarian's.
But seriously, from lawlessness one can only go backwards.

[The New World Oceania]

I was just thinking the same thing...

L101: Monarchy Re-Institution Act (FAILED)
L102: The Council of Ministers Act (PASSED)
L103: Fair and Free Education Act (PASSED)
L104: National Railway Act (PASSED)
L105: Income Tax Act (PASSED)
L106: Senate Process Act (PASSED)
L107: Constitution Act (AT VOTE)
L108: Ministry of Defense Act (PASSED)
L109: Criminal Code of the Republic of Corburn (AT VOTE)
L110: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L111: Police Force Act (AT VOTE)
L112: State Executive Act (AT VOTE)
L113: Armed Forces Act (DRAFT)

A101: Amendment to the Senate Process Act (AT VOTE)

M101: Motion for Moderated Caucus (AT VOTE)


Nothing to say they don't exist and just don't stand for Senate elections. Maybe there are communists causing havoc on the streets of Corburn right now.

Nice list. And also, there sure might be. Are criminal stuff even illegal yet? I mean, it will be at least six months until we get a police force.

It could very well be a few years before we get any criminal justice laws.

[Kinitaria]

*grumbles about reactionaries*

Ideologically, every major party in Corburn is a reactionary party ;/

Speaking of ideologies, it might do some good to set out the basic tenets of the Socialist Party in some sort of founding document.

[Imperium Nova]

Nice list. And also, there sure might be. Are criminal stuff even illegal yet? I mean, it will be at least six months until we get a police force.

It could very well be a few years before we get any criminal justice laws.

Curently, people could be raping kids, murdering innocents, burning down buildings and no one would give a shit. I am surprised nothing has happened to the Senate yet.

[Imperium Nova]

Also, why is there not a huge emigration? I mean, this nation is basically a Somalia.

[The New Lowlands]

Also, why is there not a huge emigration? I mean, this nation is basically a Somalia.

Maybe everywhere else is worse?

[Kinitaria]

Also, why is there not a huge emigration? I mean, this nation is basically a Somalia.

Perhaps there's nowhere to emigrate to. All the surrounding countries merged into Corburn.

Or, perhaps - if you've ever played Papers, Please, you'll especially understand this - although Corburn's a hellhole, it's still better than the alternatives and people are immigrating into it.

[Prospect Landings]

Ideologically, every major party in Corburn is a reactionary party ;/

Speaking of ideologies, it might do some good to set out the basic tenets of the Socialist Party in some sort of founding document.

Agreed, we kinda moved towards that in the Kings Heads-- I really hope Ellison becomes Chief Whip.

I think the most important question for the direction of the SP, is what would see our end-game to be: Is it the aim of our party to eventually engage in radical emancipatory politics, to transform society from the liberal bourgeois capitalist state to a communist one, or to moderate the status quo as liberal progressives?

[The Jonathanian States]

It could very well be a few years before we get any criminal justice laws.

Curently, people could be raping kids, murdering innocents, burning down buildings and no one would give a shit. I am surprised nothing has happened to the Senate yet.

Because we Monarchists are there, and a Paramilitary tends to scare people away from doing things, especially if that paramilitary is not forbidden from gunning them down mercilessly.


Other senators, you can thank us by voting in favor of the Monarchy

Also, why is there not a huge emigration? I mean, this nation is basically a Somalia.

Perhaps there's nowhere to emigrate to. All the surrounding countries merged into Corburn.

Or, perhaps - if you've ever played Papers, Please, you'll especially understand this - although Corburn's a hellhole, it's still better than the alternatives and people are immigrating into it.

No,ark made a whole world.
IIRC we are only the Hammerhead peninsula, or even only parts of it. There is way more.

Also, Glory to Astrotzka!

[The New Lowlands]

Speaking of ideologies, it might do some good to set out the basic tenets of the Socialist Party in some sort of founding document.

Agreed, we kinda moved towards that in the Kings Heads-- I really hope Ellison becomes Chief Whip.

I think the most important question for the direction of the SP, is what would see our end-game to be: Is it the aim of our party to eventually engage in radical emancipatory politics, to transform society from the liberal bourgeois capitalist state to a communist one, or to moderate the status quo as liberal progressives?

Personally, I'd push for social democracy.

[The New Lowlands]

Additionally, one should take into account that most of the current legal 'clusterfuck' (that's a technical term) has left the practical institutions intact AFAIK; we still have cops and soldiers, they're just technically not part of the State.

[Imperium Nova]

Agreed, we kinda moved towards that in the Kings Heads-- I really hope Ellison becomes Chief Whip.

I think the most important question for the direction of the SP, is what would see our end-game to be: Is it the aim of our party to eventually engage in radical emancipatory politics, to transform society from the liberal bourgeois capitalist state to a communist one, or to moderate the status quo as liberal progressives?

Personally, I'd push for social democracy.

I think the Monarchist Party and the Socialist Party might be quite alike, except for the monarchy part though. Senator Salisbury is heavily influenced by socialism, and used to be a member of the socialist party. His great idols are also primarily socialists.

[Prospect Landings]

Additionally, one should take into account that most of the current legal 'clusterfuck' (that's a technical term) has left the practical institutions intact AFAIK; we still have cops and soldiers, they're just technically not part of the State.

Currently though, there's no legal distinction between a cop and a vigilante, a solider and an insurrectionist.