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Steampunk Mars
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:22 am

Sasutary Island wrote:Slightly more updated map
http://i.imgur.com/qEf7FFP.png


Doesn't have my expansions. I now own the two southern provinces of Illinois state and the eastern segment of Missouri state.
Like this

And to reiterate my question from the top of theprevious page: Is there any reason I can't try and start the domestication process on American buffalo?
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Postby Adurnak » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:46 am

Steampunk Mars wrote:
Sasutary Island wrote:Slightly more updated map
http://i.imgur.com/qEf7FFP.png


Doesn't have my expansions. I now own the two southern provinces of Illinois state and the eastern segment of Missouri state.
Like this

And to reiterate my question from the top of theprevious page: Is there any reason I can't try and start the domestication process on American buffalo?


I see no reason why not
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:52 am

Adurnak wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:
Doesn't have my expansions. I now own the two southern provinces of Illinois state and the eastern segment of Missouri state.
Like this

And to reiterate my question from the top of theprevious page: Is there any reason I can't try and start the domestication process on American buffalo?


I see no reason why not

Wunderbar. :hug:

How long is it reasonable for the domestication process to take? I'm thinking at least a couple or three hundred years of corralled animals and semi-domestic before they can be considered remotely domesticated. I'd better get my post in before it becomes 1200BCE, but I have to go to work now.
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Postby Harkback Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:24 am

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
It isn't much taller than a regular 3 story building in cloqbern.
Remember, The pyramids were built centuries ago.
Also, I tought this was an alternate history RP... Yeah, there weren't clocktowers in 1300 BC BUT That doesn't meant there couldn't have been...


Actually, it does imply you can't do that.
1. You haven't got a calendar yet
2. You haven't researched any type of metallurgy
3. People haven't really even made this kind of stuff in Europe yet
4. The Pyramids are large STONE PYRAMIDS made to BURY pharaohs. Not gigantic CLOCK TOWERS.
5. YOU'RE A FUCKING NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE.

On another note, we should speed the game up. I'm itching to get to the Medieval Era, where India starts to become a power.


1. Than what?
2. Than what?
3. Than what?
4. The pyramids are 2 times as tall as the leaning tower of Pisa, which is about as high as my tower. Also, The Pyramids took much more resources and engineering skill to build.
5. No, we are not a tribe. We are cultured city states.

Anyway, I'm going to time travel now.
See you in 800 BC
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Postby Reatra » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:19 am

http://www.computersmiths.com/chineseinvention/crossbow.htm

i COULD technically invent the crossbow now....... as there is evidence it existed in 2000 BCE.... But I'll just say it's been around for a while but never got popular.
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Postby Adurnak » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:48 am

Steampunk Mars wrote:
Adurnak wrote:
I see no reason why not

Wunderbar. :hug:

How long is it reasonable for the domestication process to take? I'm thinking at least a couple or three hundred years of corralled animals and semi-domestic before they can be considered remotely domesticated. I'd better get my post in before it becomes 1200BCE, but I have to go to work now.

I think that as long as you're settled with farms and stuff and can capture and hold them in a specific area, it might take less than that. Cows only live for 15 years so as long as you breed carefully, maybe 150 years?
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Postby DrakoLand » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:40 am

Just got a NovaPad as a gift for my brithday :)
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Postby Equalium » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:40 pm

Okay time for some more Belgium Empire-ness! Femke II is gonna expand more.
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Postby Equalium » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:58 pm

I can't claim right now, HOWEVER, can I have claim the rest of the lands of Galicia Belgica?

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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
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Postby Reatra » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:15 pm

I TGed Sebt and he said that I can take his country. Yay! Vassalization here I come!
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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:20 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Actually, it does imply you can't do that.
1. You haven't got a calendar yet
2. You haven't researched any type of metallurgy
3. People haven't really even made this kind of stuff in Europe yet
4. The Pyramids are large STONE PYRAMIDS made to BURY pharaohs. Not gigantic CLOCK TOWERS.
5. YOU'RE A FUCKING NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE.

On another note, we should speed the game up. I'm itching to get to the Medieval Era, where India starts to become a power.


1. Than what?
2. Than what?
3. Than what?
4. The pyramids are 2 times as tall as the leaning tower of Pisa, which is about as high as my tower. Also, The Pyramids took much more resources and engineering skill to build.
5. No, we are not a tribe. We are cultured city states.

Anyway, I'm going to time travel now.
See you in 800 BC


1. What do you mean, Than what? It doesn't really fit into context. Explain.
2. *
3. *
4. The thing is- This RP hasn't even progressed to the late Iron age. Think logically- even if you had an upper edge on technology compared to the Native Americans we know, you shouldn't be too far ahead of the developed European and Asian states. Having a clock tower? The amount of time it would take for them to engineer such a thing, would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years. All we're implying is not to take the Alternate History thing out of hand.
5. *

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Postby Harkback Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:28 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
1. Than what?
2. Than what?
3. Than what?
4. The pyramids are 2 times as tall as the leaning tower of Pisa, which is about as high as my tower. Also, The Pyramids took much more resources and engineering skill to build.
5. No, we are not a tribe. We are cultured city states.

Anyway, I'm going to time travel now.
See you in 800 BC


1. What do you mean, Than what? It doesn't really fit into context. Explain.
2. *
3. *
4. The thing is- This RP hasn't even progressed to the late Iron age. Think logically- even if you had an upper edge on technology compared to the Native Americans we know, you shouldn't be too far ahead of the developed European and Asian states. Having a clock tower? The amount of time it would take for them to engineer such a thing, would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years. All we're implying is not to take the Alternate History thing out of hand.
5. *


1. No, what you said doesn't fit into context. The harkback do not have a calendar (yet)... and how does that prevent them from building a clocktower?
2. No metallurgy?... how does that prevent anyone from building a clocktower?
3. "People haven't really even made this kind of stuff in Europe yet." So what? How does that prevent anyone from building a clocktower?
4. You don't need to much technology to build a tower and put a man-operated clock in it. Even a simple tribe could do that. Just because they didn't doesn't mean they couldn't have. And If we built a pyramid which is twice the size and many times more difficult to build? Would you approve that, simply because... there were pyramids back than? I have gone into great detail to explain IC-ly what's going on... Our people are building monuments for the spirits they worship. The Egyptians built the pyramids to serve as a burial place for their living gods... Or to signal aliens or whatever... Well, we built a clocktower so that our people can always "worship" the spirit of time...
5.*

Besides, some of you guys have empires with twice the land than what the biggest empires had at this time.

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Postby Equalium » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:29 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:
1. Than what?
2. Than what?
3. Than what?
4. The pyramids are 2 times as tall as the leaning tower of Pisa, which is about as high as my tower. Also, The Pyramids took much more resources and engineering skill to build.
5. No, we are not a tribe. We are cultured city states.

Anyway, I'm going to time travel now.
See you in 800 BC


1. What do you mean, Than what? It doesn't really fit into context. Explain.
2. *
3. *
4. The thing is- This RP hasn't even progressed to the late Iron age. Think logically- even if you had an upper edge on technology compared to the Native Americans we know, you shouldn't be too far ahead of the developed European and Asian states. Having a clock tower? The amount of time it would take for them to engineer such a thing, would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years. All we're implying is not to take the Alternate History thing out of hand.
5. *
This. Do you see Belgica with Nuclear Weapons made of rocks or tanks made of stone?

No. Belgicans have Gaulic technology.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:33 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
1. What do you mean, Than what? It doesn't really fit into context. Explain.
2. *
3. *
4. The thing is- This RP hasn't even progressed to the late Iron age. Think logically- even if you had an upper edge on technology compared to the Native Americans we know, you shouldn't be too far ahead of the developed European and Asian states. Having a clock tower? The amount of time it would take for them to engineer such a thing, would take hundreds, if not thousands, of years. All we're implying is not to take the Alternate History thing out of hand.
5. *


1. No, what you said doesn't fit into context. The harkback do not have a calendar (yet)... and how does that prevent them from building a clocktower?
2. No metallurgy?... how does that prevent anyone from building a clocktower?
3. "People haven't really even made this kind of stuff in Europe yet." So what? How does that prevent anyone from building a clocktower?
4. You don't need to much technology to build a tower and put a man-operated clock in it. Even a simple tribe could do that. Just because they didn't doesn't mean they couldn't have. And If we built a pyramid which is twice the size and many times more difficult to build? Would you approve that, simply because... there were pyramids back than? I have gone into great detail to explain IC-ly what's going on... Our people are building monuments for the spirits they worship. The Egyptians built the pyramids to serve as a burial place for their living gods... Or to signal aliens or whatever... Well, we built a clocktower so that our people can always "worship" the spirit of time...
5.*

Besides, some of you guys have empires with twice the land than what the biggest empires had at this time.

Warriors is right for the wrong reasons. There is no way that natives could ever mine iron, especially not in this age. Hell, yes you do need some damn impressive technology to build a clock tower, the Europeans couldn't do it until the fourteenth century A.D, and the Muslims could never do it. And they were ten, if not a hundred times more advanced than the natives. A tower needs an impressive amount of architectural design to go into it, especially the one that you have illustrated, to make sure that it doesn't topple over upon itself. The closest thing to clock towers in our time period were pyramids with sundials at the top, because the pyramids were the msot stable structure on earth and one of the easiest to build. *gasp* Furthermore, you'd need serious materials to build such a complicated design, which would constitute much more than whatever materials you have now. Despite me assuming you'd have stone bricks, which the natives never had, you'd still need something to hold them together, such as cement, which was first used by the Egyptians in the third millennium, but, here's the catch - it was made of sand, lime, and gravel, none of which the natives readily had access to, unless you're in Arizona or other places in the great basin, but even then, you'd still need serious mining to get the limestone, which is a no-no for natives anyway.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:39 pm

Adurnak wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:Wunderbar. :hug:

How long is it reasonable for the domestication process to take? I'm thinking at least a couple or three hundred years of corralled animals and semi-domestic before they can be considered remotely domesticated. I'd better get my post in before it becomes 1200BCE, but I have to go to work now.

I think that as long as you're settled with farms and stuff and can capture and hold them in a specific area, it might take less than that. Cows only live for 15 years so as long as you breed carefully, maybe 150 years?


Still, I'm probably not looking at buffalry (bisonry? - I mean buffalo-riding warriors) for several hundred years, and maybe not until the turn of the calendar. This is OK.
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Postby Equalium » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:42 pm

Okay, heres Belgica's New borders:

Image

The ones near Liechtenstein are unsettled. They're apart of Femke II's conquests.

I might lay a settlement in Vaduz tho.

The pathway along the way who knows what will happen.

And that white space near maron...
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:48 pm

Alas, it appears G-Tech has forsaken us :(

Also, we're going to be doing 100 years per page until around 500 BC. Somebody make a current map please :)
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:58 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:Alas, it appears G-Tech has forsaken us :(

Also, we're going to be doing 100 years per page until around 500 BC. Somebody make a current map please :)

Here you go. If I've missed anything, let me know. I'm a bit isolated and only barely keeping an eye on the Old World.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:59 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:Here you go. If I've missed anything, let me know. I'm a bit isolated and only barely keeping an eye on the Old World.


That looks pretty good, thanks
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Postby Vaxon » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:01 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:Alas, it appears G-Tech has forsaken us :(

Also, we're going to be doing 100 years per page until around 500 BC. Somebody make a current map please :)

So, what year is it?
Also, bigger European empires can start existing at 500 BC, right? As in, we can start expanding faster?
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:02 pm

Vaxon wrote:
The Nation of Hay wrote:Alas, it appears G-Tech has forsaken us :(

Also, we're going to be doing 100 years per page until around 500 BC. Somebody make a current map please :)

So, what year is it?
Also, bigger European empires can start existing at 500 BC, right? As in, we can start expanding faster?


It's... 1250BC (I think)

Also, people are already expanding pretty quickly.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:03 pm

You're welcome. Do we have to post our expansions like last time, with a one-territory-per-post limit? That's what I've been doing, but if v2.0 has a different rule, I'll adapt to it.

I think it's still 1300BCE.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:04 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:You're welcome. Do we have to post our expansions like last time, with a one-territory-per-post limit? That's what I've been doing, but if v2.0 has a different rule, I'll adapt to it.

I think it's still 1300BCE.


There's no limit for how much land you can claim per post, but be reasonable.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:04 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:
The Nation of Hay wrote:Alas, it appears G-Tech has forsaken us :(

Also, we're going to be doing 100 years per page until around 500 BC. Somebody make a current map please :)

Here you go. If I've missed anything, let me know. I'm a bit isolated and only barely keeping an eye on the Old World.

The dark grey is no longer in the Balt, but in the Alps. We're migrating.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:05 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:You're welcome. Do we have to post our expansions like last time, with a one-territory-per-post limit? That's what I've been doing, but if v2.0 has a different rule, I'll adapt to it.

I think it's still 1300BCE.


There's no limit for how much land you can claim per post, but be reasonable.


Reasonable is what I'm aiming for. The North American territories are quite a bit bigger than the European ones, and we don't have transport animals (yet). That ought to slow down expansion.
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