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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:39 am

Reatra wrote:Coal mining... In the Bronze Age? I just became five times more awesome.

Why not just burn wood to make charcoal. A Lot easier...

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Postby The Star Corporation » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:58 am

Name of Civilization: The Portugese Empire
Location: Europe(Portugal and continuing on to part of Spain)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc.): Trade
Nomad or Settled: Settled, occasionally they conquer
If Nomad trader or raider: N/A
History/Overview:

Originating in the dawn of man, the Portugese Empire quickly developed, becoming both traders and masters of warfare. Specializing in mining, the trade of slaves and other precious material trading, they were able to gain more and more wealth, advancing quickly due to the fact that they always had something to trade. Able to forge new, sharper blades and more accurate bows with this funding, the Queen's wealth from her noble past and the ruthlessness at which she commanded her forces had her quickly drive through the ranks, marry the king and then sooner than later eliminate him for more power. Because of their balanced nature, they have enough funding to develop new war techniques and enough power to defend themselves, giving them both an advantage and weakness, though pure trading nations will be wealthier and well-trained warfaring nations will be more powerful.

Hailing from unknown origins, this version of the Portugal is not to be triffled with, but if you take advantage of their weaknesses you may very well be able to eliminate them once and for all.

Culture?: Real life culture(Unique, their music is pretty ;-;... even the crazy Queen of France in Reign likes the pretty music xD]
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:09 am

The Star Corporation wrote:Name of Civilization: The Portugese Empire
Location: Europe(Portugal and continuing on to part of Spain)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc.): Balance of Warfare & Trade((I don't want Warmongers nor pure Traders]
Nomad or Settled: Settled, occasionally they conquer
If Nomad trader or raider: N/A
History/Overview:

Originating in the dawn of man, the Portugese Empire quickly developed, becoming both traders and masters of warfare. Specializing in mining, the trade of slaves and other precious material trading, they were able to gain more and more wealth, advancing quickly due to the fact that they always had something to trade. Able to forge new, sharper blades and more accurate bows with this funding, the Queen's wealth from her noble past and the ruthlessness at which she commanded her forces had her quickly drive through the ranks, marry the king and then sooner than later eliminate him for more power. Because of their balanced nature, they have enough funding to develop new war techniques and enough power to defend themselves, giving them both an advantage and weakness, though pure trading nations will be wealthier and well-trained warfaring nations will be more powerful.

Hailing from unknown origins, this version of the Portugal is not to be triffled with, but if you take advantage of their weaknesses you may very well be able to eliminate them once and for all.

Culture?: Real life culture(Unique, their music is pretty ;-;... even the crazy Queen of France in Reign likes the pretty music xD]


Interesting. Large parts of Spain are occupied by other powers, and parts of Portugal, but I can work your lands around that. We do, however, only allow a single specialization, so I'm afraid you'll have to choose.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:04 pm

Just as a map note: I think the body of water shown on the map in North Dakota is the artificial Lake Sakakawea. It should probably vanish.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:28 pm

What year is it?
I've lost track.

Will we also be able to have mounted troops soon?
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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:36 pm

Uh, I don't think Native American tribes mined. The thought of having advanced civilizations there, the size of the mainland U.S., my god.

**EDIT** Did Hay do the events yet?
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Postby Adurnak » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:40 pm

Liecthenbourg wrote:What year is it?
I've lost track.

Will we also be able to have mounted troops soon?


The year is 1350BC i think and i Can't remember where in the thread this was posted but I think Greece got cavalry around 1500-1300BC but idk about everyone else
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:42 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Uh, I don't think Native American tribes mined. The thought of having advanced civilizations there, the size of the mainland U.S., my god.

**EDIT** Did Hay do the events yet?

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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:47 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Uh, I don't think Native American tribes mined. The thought of having advanced civilizations there, the size of the mainland U.S., my god.

**EDIT** Did Hay do the events yet?

'Tis a silly place... I second this, though.


Never mind my people who were mining limestone and copper since 1400 BC.....
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:36 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Uh, I don't think Native American tribes mined. The thought of having advanced civilizations there, the size of the mainland U.S., my god.

**EDIT** Did Hay do the events yet?


The Mound Builder culture made some awesome copper plates. They got the metal somewhere; it's not usually lying around on the ground. They didn't do bronze; there's really very little tin in North America. A little in NW Mexico and a very small amount in the Ohio-Pennsylvania area is all.

And also on the downside for North America, no really mobile native animals for ploughing, muscle power and cavalry until one of you Old World lot brings us horses. Even if we go south for llamas, they're unsuited for either riding or ploughing.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:28 pm

It's 1300 BC, I haven't posted events yet, and I don't believe cavalry were widely used until after the 10th century BC. Sorry I haven't been able to post a lot, something important came up recently. I'll put up events now, and I'll start an IC post afterwards.
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Postby United Martains » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:38 pm

Damnit, violent hurricanes. I'm tempted to say "none of my major cities were coastal" but they all are. So... well, that sucks.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:47 pm

China is where horses originated. After they went extinct in North America in 12000 BC though.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:56 pm

Reatra wrote:China is where horses originated. After they went extinct in North America in 12000 BC though.

Central Asia is where the idea of cavalry took root. From there it spread east, west and south.
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Postby Sasutary Island » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:30 pm

I did a map, adding the new nations etc.. TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS
http://i.imgur.com/WfgOUkT.png
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:54 pm

Sasutary Island wrote:I did a map, adding the new nations etc.. TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS
http://i.imgur.com/WfgOUkT.png


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Postby Steampunk Mars » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:19 am

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Sasutary Island wrote:I did a map, adding the new nations etc.. TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS
http://i.imgur.com/WfgOUkT.png


:O

Danke! :hug:

Seconded. :hug: I've made a couple of additions to Makakai territory, though. SE Illinois (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272018&start=153) and eastern Missouri (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=272018&start=155). So the Makakai map now looks like this:
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Postby Adurnak » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:27 am

Sasutary Island wrote:I did a map, adding the new nations etc.. TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS
http://i.imgur.com/WfgOUkT.png

I think there was a guy that applied and was accepted as Portugal?
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Postby Sasutary Island » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:51 am

I think Pharland's country has been eliminated by me.
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Postby DrakoLand » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:47 am

Could I have 2 provinces next to the Thracian holding in Azov? (Like the one next to it, and the one next to the one next to it :P)
Like this http://i.imgur.com/5rFkEUg.png

I wouldn't mind having the rest of Azov provinces (2 small ones left) but that is for the OP to decide.
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Postby Reatra » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:46 am

Again, here's my expansion, you've missed it thrice.

http://i.imgur.com/NseKNmq.png
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Postby DrakoLand » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:34 pm

Reatra wrote:Again, here's my expansion, you've missed it thrice.

http://i.imgur.com/NseKNmq.png


It ain't like the official map maker hasn't made a map in order to miss it....

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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:29 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Uh, I don't think Native American tribes mined. The thought of having advanced civilizations there, the size of the mainland U.S., my god.

**EDIT** Did Hay do the events yet?


The Mound Builder culture made some awesome copper plates. They got the metal somewhere; it's not usually lying around on the ground. They didn't do bronze; there's really very little tin in North America. A little in NW Mexico and a very small amount in the Ohio-Pennsylvania area is all.

And also on the downside for North America, no really mobile native animals for ploughing, muscle power and cavalry until one of you Old World lot brings us horses. Even if we go south for llamas, they're unsuited for either riding or ploughing.


I didn't read the whole article, *(Too lazy)* , but it seems they didn't use it for armor or weapons, but rather for decoration.

**EDIT**: Hark, I don't think they had that kind of architecture and engineering back in like 1200 BC.

Machinery for clocks wasn't developed until the Renaissance Period, and that particular style of building not developed until 1700 or 1800 AD. This doesn't fly with me. At all.
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Postby Harkback Union » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:59 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:
The Mound Builder culture made some awesome copper plates. They got the metal somewhere; it's not usually lying around on the ground. They didn't do bronze; there's really very little tin in North America. A little in NW Mexico and a very small amount in the Ohio-Pennsylvania area is all.

And also on the downside for North America, no really mobile native animals for ploughing, muscle power and cavalry until one of you Old World lot brings us horses. Even if we go south for llamas, they're unsuited for either riding or ploughing.


I didn't read the whole article, *(Too lazy)* , but it seems they didn't use it for armor or weapons, but rather for decoration.

**EDIT**: Hark, I don't think they had that kind of architecture and engineering back in like 1200 BC.

Machinery for clocks wasn't developed until the Renaissance Period, and that particular style of building not developed until 1700 or 1800 AD. This doesn't fly with me. At all.


1. The harkback have their own architectural style. Notice the triangle shaped chimneys.
2. Of course it would be too early to build proper towers, that's why it almost collapsed.
3. There is no machinery involved. It's operated by a group of old man. (they measure minutes with an hourglass.)
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:37 pm

The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:
The Mound Builder culture made some awesome copper plates. They got the metal somewhere; it's not usually lying around on the ground. They didn't do bronze; there's really very little tin in North America. A little in NW Mexico and a very small amount in the Ohio-Pennsylvania area is all.

And also on the downside for North America, no really mobile native animals for ploughing, muscle power and cavalry until one of you Old World lot brings us horses. Even if we go south for llamas, they're unsuited for either riding or ploughing.


I didn't read the whole article, *(Too lazy)* , but it seems they didn't use it for armor or weapons, but rather for decoration.


Yeah. New World metallurgy was almost exclusively focused on decorative qualities. They went for malleability and ooh-shiny rather than strength.

**EDIT**: Hark, I don't think they had that kind of architecture and engineering back in like 1200 BC.

Machinery for clocks wasn't developed until the Renaissance Period, and that particular style of building not developed until 1700 or 1800 AD. This doesn't fly with me. At all.


Likewise with me. Hourglasses is pushing it, really, and old men in a tower measuring minutes with them? Improbable, to say the least.

On a different note, can I change my Specialism from Farming to Artisanship? I've realised most of what I want to do is Artisan, not Farmer.
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