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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:23 am

Reatra wrote:So.... I'm going to invent the kite, okay?


As long as the kites don't deliver gunpowder bombs, knock yourself out.
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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:32 am

Hehe, still fifteen hundred years from that! They'll be used for military communication, though.
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Postby Harkback Union » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:37 pm

Reatra wrote:Hehe, still fifteen hundred years from that! They'll be used for military communication, though.


I'll remember to attack when It's not windy.
It would make my archers inaccurate anyway...

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:38 pm

Repost for new page:
Steampunk Mars wrote:Cool. I need to trawl P2tM more. I didn't realize this was up. Now that my Wild New World thread seems to have died, I think I'd like to run another New World civ:

APP:
Name of Civilization: Makakai Hegemony
Location: On the Mississippi, between Memphis and the mouth of the Ohio. How many territories can we start with?
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc.): Farming.
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: The fertile Mississippi valley was one of the earliest settled places in North America. Farming communities planting maize, squashes, beans, little barley and New World wild rice (no paddy farming yet, though) gradually grew in size and became organized over the centuries, and eventually the city of Makakai organized enough of a military presence to exert hegemony over the various city-states, mostly through political/psychological pressure rather than outright conquest. They are still farmers rather than warriors, but the Makakai began to become more expansionist, endeavouring to bring civilization to the surrounding barbarous lands.
Culture?: A sort of blending of Old World Mesopotamian cultures like the Sumerians and New World First Nations cultures like the Cherokee.
Politically, numerous city-states (consisting of a walled town and its surrounding area) are united under the hegemony of a leading city. The leading city's influence waxes and wanes according to the personal prestige, competence and influence of its ruler, and changes of hegemon from one city to another are not uncommon down the ages.
Socially, there is a lot more equality between men and women than you would normally find in your average ancestral Old World culture. City rulers and chieftains are men, but their advisors are councils made up of the leading women of the city, and land ownership is tied to the female sex.
After the completion of their Rite of Passage at puberty, young men are inducted into one of several Warrior Societies, while women have their own societies associated with various crafts or with agriculture.
Religion-wise, there is a lot of perceived overlap between the physical and the spiritual worlds. To an extent, everyone is their own priest, attaining spiritual power for daily life through interactions with various spirits. Powerful shaman-priests serve as conduits for what is seen as greater spiritual power, and function as spirit trouble-shooters to whom people may go for aid or counsel. Interaction between people and spirits is a web of obligations and payments, and ritual bloodlettings and the occasional human sacrifice are practiced.

<OOC: Not completely copied from the Wild New World thread :) >
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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:44 pm

That doesn't seem like equality between men and women, but that women overpower men! Also, you'll probably have much less incentive to expand and advance.
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:09 pm

I'm back, I'll get a post up when I can.

I'm also missing a few things on the map.
I'm certain Lisbon and Huelva are missing.

I'm not sure if Oran (In Algeria) and Safi (Western Moroccan Coast) were added.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:22 pm

Reatra wrote:That doesn't seem like equality between men and women, but that women overpower men! Also, you'll probably have much less incentive to expand and advance.


Men are still physically stronger and hold the chieftainship. It's not quite a matriarchy, just more in line with historic Native American cultures. Women hold the land; men do the hunting and fighting. Displays of bravery and skill, including going out and finding new resources for the tribe, are performed as a sort of personal test and to win big with the ladies. And the pressure of needing more farmland will drive expansion to a degree.
And let's not forget; women can be just as expansionistic and conquest-driven as men; I only have to look at my wife for proof of that. She's a sort of reincarnated Catherine the Great of Russia or Eleanor of Aquitaine. :)
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:Repost for new page:
Steampunk Mars wrote:Cool. I need to trawl P2tM more. I didn't realize this was up. Now that my Wild New World thread seems to have died, I think I'd like to run another New World civ:

APP:
Name of Civilization: Makakai Hegemony
Location: On the Mississippi, between Memphis and the mouth of the Ohio. How many territories can we start with?
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc.): Farming.
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: The fertile Mississippi valley was one of the earliest settled places in North America. Farming communities planting maize, squashes, beans, little barley and New World wild rice (no paddy farming yet, though) gradually grew in size and became organized over the centuries, and eventually the city of Makakai organized enough of a military presence to exert hegemony over the various city-states, mostly through political/psychological pressure rather than outright conquest. They are still farmers rather than warriors, but the Makakai began to become more expansionist, endeavouring to bring civilization to the surrounding barbarous lands.
Culture?: A sort of blending of Old World Mesopotamian cultures like the Sumerians and New World First Nations cultures like the Cherokee.
Politically, numerous city-states (consisting of a walled town and its surrounding area) are united under the hegemony of a leading city. The leading city's influence waxes and wanes according to the personal prestige, competence and influence of its ruler, and changes of hegemon from one city to another are not uncommon down the ages.
Socially, there is a lot more equality between men and women than you would normally find in your average ancestral Old World culture. City rulers and chieftains are men, but their advisors are councils made up of the leading women of the city, and land ownership is tied to the female sex.
After the completion of their Rite of Passage at puberty, young men are inducted into one of several Warrior Societies, while women have their own societies associated with various crafts or with agriculture.
Religion-wise, there is a lot of perceived overlap between the physical and the spiritual worlds. To an extent, everyone is their own priest, attaining spiritual power for daily life through interactions with various spirits. Powerful shaman-priests serve as conduits for what is seen as greater spiritual power, and function as spirit trouble-shooters to whom people may go for aid or counsel. Interaction between people and spirits is a web of obligations and payments, and ritual bloodlettings and the occasional human sacrifice are practiced.

<OOC: Not completely copied from the Wild New World thread :) >


Accepted

Also, G-Tech, how about that map :D
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Postby Mjaria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:03 pm

I'm not on the map. Can I be dark purple?

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:43 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:Repost for new page:


Accepted

Also, G-Tech, how about that map :D


Wonderful. How many territories is the standard starting number?
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:46 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:Wonderful. How many territories is the standard starting number?


Between 1 and 10
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:51 pm

Great. This will be my initial claim, then.

Edit: Posted in the IC. Basically a redacted version of a ceremonial-type post from my Wild New World thread. No effect on territory size.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:15 pm

BTW, who's my semi-neighbour in California?
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:BTW, who's my semi-neighbour in California?


That'd be Harkback Union, I believe.
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Postby Dalria » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:25 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:BTW, who's my semi-neighbour in California?


That'd be Harkback Union, I believe.


I thought Hark was in England :blink:

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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:26 pm

Dalria wrote:
The Nation of Hay wrote:
That'd be Harkback Union, I believe.


I thought Hark was in England :blink:


He switched :P
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:54 am

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Dalria wrote:
I thought Hark was in England :blink:


He switched :P


Yup, I moved to Seattle so I can copy the IC from the other civ themed RP where I'm also started in the Seattle area... at least for now.

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:31 am

The Nation of Hay wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:BTW, who's my semi-neighbour in California?


That'd be Harkback Union, I believe.

Great. I imagine we'll make contact in a while, after one of us crosses the Rockies. Incidentally, I just brought SE Illinois under my dominion.
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:47 am

Steampunk Mars wrote:
The Nation of Hay wrote:
That'd be Harkback Union, I believe.

Great. I imagine we'll make contact in a while, after one of us crosses the Rockies. Incidentally, I just brought SE Illinois under my dominion.

I'll be soon crossing the mountains to the north to grab some agricultural land around south Dakota. From there, more expeditions may be launched. Expect us to find you in 2-3 posts.

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:28 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:Great. I imagine we'll make contact in a while, after one of us crosses the Rockies. Incidentally, I just brought SE Illinois under my dominion.

I'll be soon crossing the mountains to the north to grab some agricultural land around south Dakota. From there, more expeditions may be launched. Expect us to find you in 2-3 posts.

OK. I expect to be advancing up the Mississippi and Missouri valleys during that time. Is this a "one-territory-added-per-post" regime like last time?
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:39 am

Steampunk Mars wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:I'll be soon crossing the mountains to the north to grab some agricultural land around south Dakota. From there, more expeditions may be launched. Expect us to find you in 2-3 posts.

OK. I expect to be advancing up the Mississippi and Missouri valleys during that time. Is this a "one-territory-added-per-post" regime like last time?

I don't know... I imagine it would only make people post lots of short posts...

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:56 am

Harkback Union wrote:
Steampunk Mars wrote:OK. I expect to be advancing up the Mississippi and Missouri valleys during that time. Is this a "one-territory-added-per-post" regime like last time?

I don't know... I imagine it would only make people post lots of short posts...

That's what the posting regime was in ARR 1.0.

Edit: BTW, in looking up the mineral resources of my area, I discovered that coal mining goes way back to the Bronze Age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_coal_mining
I had no idea. Suddenly, parts of Ohio and Pennsylvania become potentially important.
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Postby Harkback Union » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 am

Steampunk Mars wrote:
Harkback Union wrote:I don't know... I imagine it would only make people post lots of short posts...

That's what the posting regime was in ARR 1.0.

Edit: BTW, in looking up the mineral resources of my area, I discovered that coal mining goes way back to the Bronze Age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_coal_mining
I had no idea. Suddenly, parts of Ohio and Pennsylvania become potentially important.


I don't really care about what people did in my region.
It's an alternate history RP afterall...

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:07 am

Indeed. But mineral resources probably don't change. And I had no idea coalmining was even reasonable in the Bronze Age.
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Postby Reatra » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:25 am

Coal mining... In the Bronze Age? I just became five times more awesome.
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