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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:14 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Can't beat southern European girls.
Which you just ended, you eejit.

I thought Nordic girls were the hottest out there? Anyhow, look at China. They hack other people. Also, on a serious matter. People of the Nordic are fanatically nationalistic.

Speaking as a European, no, no they're not.

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Kelmet
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Postby Kelmet » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:14 pm

US and Canada
When should we have a confreres to establish the A.D.C?

Ill host it

Perhaps you guys could IC worry of growing Federation aggression, Ill host a conference :) and well all be freinds
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Toishima
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Postby Toishima » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:15 pm

Gold state wrote:I don't want to invest in particle rifles, so I'm investing in heat based weaponry. The ammunition is heated internally so it won't be affected by rain.

I also need to develop a material to contain the heat based ammunition and mechanisms.

Japan could have your answer. We've been developing something called the Yuki-Nagaku Crystal Lattice. This is a fragile nano-crystal formation that provides just the right amount of air spaces and refraction capabilities to filter off excess radiation, heat and whatnot. A joint Cuba-Japan project could be fruitful.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:16 pm

Gold state wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:I think the joke is the bullets are really hot, so they need gloves.


Yes. I mean, what would happen if you touched a object that is hotter then 4,000 degrees?

Still, it sounded funny when you said that you were going to start developing gloves. I mean, wow.

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Gold state
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Postby Gold state » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:18 pm

Toishima wrote:
Gold state wrote:I don't want to invest in particle rifles, so I'm investing in heat based weaponry. The ammunition is heated internally so it won't be affected by rain.

I also need to develop a material to contain the heat based ammunition and mechanisms.

Japan could have your answer. We've been developing something called the Yuki-Nagaku Crystal Lattice. This is a fragile nano-crystal formation that provides just the right amount of air spaces and refraction capabilities to filter off excess radiation, heat and whatnot. A joint Cuba-Japan project could be fruitful.


I can give Japan...

Spiced Rum
Coffee
Sugar
Wheat
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Postby Kelmet » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:18 pm

Gold state wrote:
Toishima wrote:Japan could have your answer. We've been developing something called the Yuki-Nagaku Crystal Lattice. This is a fragile nano-crystal formation that provides just the right amount of air spaces and refraction capabilities to filter off excess radiation, heat and whatnot. A joint Cuba-Japan project could be fruitful.


I can give Japan...

Spiced Rum
Coffee
Sugar
Wheat

And Cuban Cigars!
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Gold state
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Postby Gold state » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:19 pm

Kelmet wrote:
Gold state wrote:
I can give Japan...

Spiced Rum
Coffee
Sugar
Wheat

And Cuban Cigars!



Handrolled, naturally.
Support Palestine, against the Israeli terrorism.
RIP, the Palestinians and Jews murdered by the IDF and Hamas.
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Kioshima
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Postby Kioshima » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:20 pm

Gold state wrote: I can give Japan...

Spiced Rum
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The weapon. We share the weapon itself, since it uses Japanese technology in it.
Fufufufufufufu

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Postby Gold state » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:23 pm

Kioshima wrote:
Gold state wrote: I can give Japan...

Spiced Rum
Coffee
Sugar
Wheat

The weapon. We share the weapon itself, since it uses Japanese technology in it.



KEEP YOUR HEADS DOWN, MEGA POST INCOMING.
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La Republica De Filipinas
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Postby La Republica De Filipinas » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:25 pm

EAST Members should totally have weapons R&D for the sole reason of being better than China.
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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:25 pm

Gold state wrote:
Kioshima wrote:The weapon. We share the weapon itself, since it uses Japanese technology in it.



KEEP YOUR HEADS DOWN, MEGA POST INCOMING.

TWO MEGA POSTS?! :o Duck!

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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:26 pm

I see we've been talking about railguns. :eyebrow:


No.
No. Not on battleships, not on tanks, just no. I'll just kill this idea before anyone starts saying they haz tankz with megarailgausscannonz and the superbahtleship with the ubercoilteslalauncher running around blowing up the rest of our perfectly respectable vehicles. :meh:

Problems with a railgun on a battleship:

-to be worth mounting on a ship as a weapon, it would need to consume absurd amounts of power
-much more fragile and finicky than normal guns, requires more maintenance
-range and accuracy not much greater than normal gun
-extremely expensive
-recoil could cause structural damage to the entire ship

Problems with railgun on a tank:

-There is no power source that could sustain it (aside from fusion reactors, which our tech level wouldn't be able to miniaturize sufficiently)
-Recoil would blow the turret off
-more fragile and finicky than normal gun
-less effective against infantry
-range and accuracy not that much greater than that of a normal gun
-extremely expensive
-why risk the super-expensive railgun by mounting it on a tank? You probably don't have enough to use them in any useful way (oh wait, you wouldn't have any, because it's fucking impossible)



Okay, done ranting now! :)
Also, in case anyone missed it, the Beijing Summit started.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:27 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Gold state wrote:

KEEP YOUR HEADS DOWN, MEGA POST INCOMING.

TWO MEGA POSTS?! :o Duck!

Make it three. Mine is inbound, ETA 7 minutes!
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Rygondria
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Postby Rygondria » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:29 pm

So can i make greece or is it a no?

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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:29 pm

La Republica De Filipinas wrote:EAST Members should totally have weapons R&D for the sole reason of being better than China.

Please carefully read my Railgun Rant™. Please.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:30 pm

Rygondria wrote:So can i make greece or is it a no?

As far as I am aware, there is no one there. Go right ahead :)
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:30 pm

Rygondria wrote:So can i make greece or is it a no?

You can, just make an app and see if it's accepted.

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Kioshima
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Postby Kioshima » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:30 pm

La Republica De Filipinas wrote:EAST Members should totally have weapons R&D for the sole reason of being better than China.

We are a defensive pact, not a military one. We are encouraged to share our technology, though any joint efforts would have to be between nations themselves and not through EAST.

Beautifully explained, Senkaku. Couldn't have worded it better myself. Though the Philippines guy never mentioned anything about railguns.
Fufufufufufufu

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Kelmet
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Postby Kelmet » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:32 pm

Senkaku wrote:I see we've been talking about railguns. :eyebrow:


No.
No. Not on battleships, not on tanks, just no. I'll just kill this idea before anyone starts saying they haz tankz with megarailgausscannonz and the superbahtleship with the ubercoilteslalauncher running around blowing up the rest of our perfectly respectable vehicles. :meh:

Problems with a railgun on a battleship:

-to be worth mounting on a ship as a weapon, it would need to consume absurd amounts of power
-much more fragile and finicky than normal guns, requires more maintenance
-range and accuracy not much greater than normal gun
-extremely expensive
-recoil could cause structural damage to the entire ship

Problems with railgun on a tank:

-There is no power source that could sustain it (aside from fusion reactors, which our tech level wouldn't be able to miniaturize sufficiently)
-Recoil would blow the turret off
-more fragile and finicky than normal gun
-less effective against infantry
-range and accuracy not that much greater than that of a normal gun
-extremely expensive
-why risk the super-expensive railgun by mounting it on a tank? You probably don't have enough to use them in any useful way (oh wait, you wouldn't have any, because it's fucking impossible)



Okay, done ranting now! :)
Also, in case anyone missed it, the Beijing Summit started.

Agreed, by 2050 the tech would be around but not practical, I in-vision today's tech just upgraded by a few generations
IE M-4 to M-8 of F-22 to F-42 ext,ext
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Senkaku
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Kioshima wrote:
La Republica De Filipinas wrote:EAST Members should totally have weapons R&D for the sole reason of being better than China.

We are a defensive pact, not a military one. We are encouraged to share our technology, though any joint efforts would have to be between nations themselves and not through EAST.

Beautifully explained, Senkaku. Couldn't have worded it better myself. Though the Philippines guy never mentioned anything about railguns.

I stepped out for a breath of fresh air for a few pages. When I came back, I looked at the new posts about 4 pages back, and he was mentioning them, as was (I think) Zeinbrad.
agreed honey. send bees

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Imperium Nova
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Postby Imperium Nova » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:36 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Kioshima wrote:We are a defensive pact, not a military one. We are encouraged to share our technology, though any joint efforts would have to be between nations themselves and not through EAST.

Beautifully explained, Senkaku. Couldn't have worded it better myself. Though the Philippines guy never mentioned anything about railguns.

I stepped out for a breath of fresh air for a few pages. When I came back, I looked at the new posts about 4 pages back, and he was mentioning them, as was (I think) Zeinbrad.

Outside? Fresh air? Fool, don't leave the forums. There are polar bears outside.

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Kioshima
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Postby Kioshima » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:36 pm

I am trying to at least post for Singapore (thus using an alt account), but the cramps are really bad. May have to take a break for a while before doing Japan.
Fufufufufufufu

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La Republica De Filipinas
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Postby La Republica De Filipinas » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Senkaku wrote:
La Republica De Filipinas wrote:EAST Members should totally have weapons R&D for the sole reason of being better than China.

Please carefully read my Railgun Rant™. Please.


It was more of a "gais, we should build better tanks, ja?" Rather than a "lol, we should arm everything with railguns for of pissing of China." The moment TNL posted that (in his opinion) AShM > Railguns, I began giving up my prospects of having railguns armed in a naval ship. I did some research and eventually concluded that missiles were better.

We are a defensive pact, not a military one. We are encouraged to share our technology, though any joint efforts would have to be between nations themselves and not through EAST.

Beautifully explained, Senkaku. Couldn't have worded it better myself. Though the Philippines guy never mentioned anything about railguns.


I did say something in the OOC about having ships being armed with railguns. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to be ridiculous as a mech.
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Rygondria
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Postby Rygondria » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:37 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Rygondria wrote:So can i make greece or is it a no?

You can, just make an app and see if it's accepted.

Ok app coming up.

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Postby Cerrania » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Imperium Nova wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I stepped out for a breath of fresh air for a few pages. When I came back, I looked at the new posts about 4 pages back, and he was mentioning them, as was (I think) Zeinbrad.

Outside? Fresh air? Fool, don't leave the forums. There are polar bears outside.

And sunlight. That blinds you and gives you cancer.

Best stay inside.
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