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Seveth
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Postby Seveth » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
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I know, but Canada found out about your plans, and based on the reports of its agents in the field, has determined that the war isn't winnable no matter how much support it pushes in.

Blame the legislature for making a rash decision. :p

You guys where saying that the Nordic would lose if the British had allies a week ago.

Why the sudden change?


I never said that. Besides, you have no real military allies to speak of. The people supporting you right now are only sending supplies.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
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In under a week the US military utterly destroyed the Iraqi Army while largely outnumbered .
A hell of a lot can happen in a few days .

The US was much more modern then the Iraqi army, the British military is a modern military.



Actually the Iraqis were using mostly modern equipment

Gulf war casualties


Casualties and losses
Coalition:
190 killed by enemy action, 44 killed by friendly fire, 248 killed by in-theater accidents
Total: 482 Killed
458 wounded[7] - 776 wounded[8]
Kuwait:
200 KIA[9]


Iraqi Forces

20,000–35,000 killed
75,000+ wounded[8]







Britian has never had a high priority on their military I believe an Ultra-conservative (facist) Party would (Nords )
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:33 pm

Seveth wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:You guys where saying that the Nordic would lose if the British had allies a week ago.

Why the sudden change?


I never said that. Besides, you have no real military allies to speak of. The people supporting you right now are only sending supplies.

You had a Canadian commander in Britain. Who you said was commanding the Canadian forces in Britain.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:35 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Seveth wrote:
I never said that. Besides, you have no real military allies to speak of. The people supporting you right now are only sending supplies.

You had a Canadian commander in Britain. Who you said was commanding the Canadian forces in Britain.



Canadian forces could very well simpily be a logistics unit
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Imperial+City-States
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:36 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:You had a Canadian commander in Britain. Who you said was commanding the Canadian forces in Britain.



Canadian forces could very well simpily be a logistics unit

He said he shot some of the Nordic fighters down.

Which means their military.
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Postby Seveth » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:38 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Seveth wrote:
I never said that. Besides, you have no real military allies to speak of. The people supporting you right now are only sending supplies.

You had a Canadian commander in Britain. Who you said was commanding the Canadian forces in Britain.


I never said a commander. He was organizing and distributing the supplies in the London area. No mention was made of a commander.

Zeinbrad wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

Canadian forces could very well simpily be a logistics unit

He said he shot some of the Nordic fighters down.

Which means their military.


No, I said that some of the fighters were shot down. Not necessarily by him. Most likely it was the English military or civilians in the area.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:39 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

Canadian forces could very well simpily be a logistics unit

He said he shot some of the Nordic fighters down.

Which means their military.


You do know that Logistics units have their own tanks ect. For defend purposes right ?
They concentrate in logistics but have the capacity to defend themselves
Current logistics units in the US Army have Bradley's , Strykers , Abrams and SAM Varient humvees ,they just have a much smaller percentage of them opposed to combat units
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:42 pm

Seveth wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:You had a Canadian commander in Britain. Who you said was commanding the Canadian forces in Britain.


I never said a commander. He was organizing and distributing the supplies in the London area. No mention was made of a commander.

Zeinbrad wrote:He said he shot some of the Nordic fighters down.

Which means their military.


No, I said that some of the fighters were shot down. Not necessarily by him. Most likely it was the English military or civilians in the area.

......

I'm getting pissed off, from you guys saying the British military is in ruins, to the war is lost before it even got to the ground.

Seriously, I think if Britain was being invaded, at least Canada or the US would rush in to helps it's mother country.

Screw it, I'm going all out. Guerrilla warfare is my new focus.
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Postby Seveth » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Seveth wrote:
I never said a commander. He was organizing and distributing the supplies in the London area. No mention was made of a commander.



No, I said that some of the fighters were shot down. Not necessarily by him. Most likely it was the English military or civilians in the area.

......

I'm getting pissed off, from you guys saying the British military is in ruins, to the war is lost before it even got to the ground.

Seriously, I think if Britain was being invaded, at least Canada or the US would rush in to helps it's mother country.

Screw it, I'm going all out. Guerrilla warfare is my new focus.


The US is in no position to aid anyone at this point, and Canada just stopped.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:46 pm

Seveth wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:......

I'm getting pissed off, from you guys saying the British military is in ruins, to the war is lost before it even got to the ground.

Seriously, I think if Britain was being invaded, at least Canada or the US would rush in to helps it's mother country.

Screw it, I'm going all out. Guerrilla warfare is my new focus.


The US is in no position to aid anyone at this point, and Canada just stopped.

I think Canada would put more effort into helping its Mother country, besides supplies.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:47 pm

Should have done that in the first place really .

And actually the Op ruled that you would indeed lose if you didn't get help

And the fact that a Canadian logistics unit sitting in your country with the capacity to defend themselves has nothing to do with Your military's condition

And I know some very effective ways to end Gurellia warfare


You think that a Country ICly in such a massive economic rut would help you ? (America)

So what you were their mother county several hundred years ago , that doesn't matter
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:48 pm

Besides who even started it ? Who antaganonized who )
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
"Stand in the ashes of a million dead souls and ask the ghost if honor matters."
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
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"No advance in wealth, no softening of manners, no reform or revolution has ever brought human equality a millimeter nearer."
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Besides who even started it ? Who antaganonized who )

Nordic is starting, and is making calms with no evidence.
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Postby Seveth » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:50 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Seveth wrote:
The US is in no position to aid anyone at this point, and Canada just stopped.

I think Canada would put more effort into helping its Mother country, besides supplies.


Canada has changed over the past 40 years, as has Britain. England currently has an almost despotic king in power. Canada has just gotten over two decades of isolationism. Additionally, Canada was considering sending military over, but that idea was shot down.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:51 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Besides who even started it ? Who antaganonized who )

Nordic is starting, and is making calms with no evidence.


Evidence doesn't matter really if your the one that wins , the international community doesn't need evidence to believe the crap the media throws out

Wait Canada is isolationist like me ??

I think we just might need to be friends
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:54 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Nordic is starting, and is making calms with no evidence.


Evidence doesn't matter really if your the one that wins , the international community doesn't need evidence to believe the crap the media throws out

Wait Canada is isolationist like me ??

I think we just might need to be friends

Here's the thing, when a nation invades another, for no reason besides claims that have no evidence, and don't make sense (Why in the world would Britain supply terrorist in a nation they aren't even a enemy with?) Don't you think nations would help?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:56 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
Evidence doesn't matter really if your the one that wins , the international community doesn't need evidence to believe the crap the media throws out

Wait Canada is isolationist like me ??

I think we just might need to be friends

Here's the thing, when a nation invades another, for no reason besides claims that have no evidence, and don't make sense (Why in the world would Britain supply terrorist in a nation they aren't even a enemy with?) Don't you think nations would help?



Ill pick on my own country because If I pick on other people's ill get reported because of idiocy

America declared that Sadam Hussein had WMD's and provides no proof , Colation forces proceeded to help( well really just enjoyed the ride lol ) America and kick the Iraqis ass's -
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I posted, I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll make it there before I fall asleep.

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Postby La Republica De Filipinas » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:59 am

I should occupy and annex the islands east of me. They'll great for some weapons testing...

Also, I somehow wished I accepted the invitation to the Beijing summit. Philippines is irrelevant as of this moment...
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Postby Imperium Nova » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:29 am

Also, Zeinbrad, will you ever edit your post about the Brtish aircrafts attacking Nordic ships? Otherwise I will post soon about the invasion, it's been there for so long now.

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Postby Padi (Ancient) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:31 am

Nation Name: Satun

Population (Estimated 2050): 4,325,780

Head of State: Tuan Syed Abdullah Rahman Bin Tuan Syed Haji Karim Mat

Government Type: Islamic Communism

Military: 10,000 Army, 457 Navy

History (2013-2050):
2013-LAKES palm oil plantation was established
2014-10 Families from China immigrated to Satun for gold and iron ore mining
2015-RUPA rubber estate is established
2017-Fishermen is popular job among teenagers to boost marine sector
2018-KENA fisheries is established
2020-Syed Ibrahim calls all the people to boost the agroculture, livestock, mining, and ficheries economy
2021-Syed Ibrahim was assassinated by the jihadist, June Riots across the nation. 1/8 of the forest was burned by the protester
2022-Tuan Syed Haji Karim Mat Bin Syed Ibrahim has been chosen by the Soviet to replace his father to become the next President of Satun
2023-Navy is established since the fishermen reported about the pirates in the Satun waters
2024-First television broadcast in black and white
2025-The youngsters now more interested to be an actor or a singer on television
2026-The government have a new way to boost the produce of paddy and wheat, economy in Satun rise 5% then before
2027-Thea calls the people to plant the vegetables and fruits in big farm to boost Satun economy
2028-70% vegetables and fruits in Satun now can be export, economy in Satun rise 30%
2029-3 Ships for Navy usage has been created
2030-HUSIN, Foresty and WIldlife office eclare 7/9 of the forest in Satun as the reserve forest
2031-The Soviet force Satun to open the garments factories
2032-First film in colour hits the Sollywood
2033-Television in Satun now in colour along with the additional television, the Second Programme
2034-Clothes can be export. Public Telephone is introduce
2035-RAPATAN housing estate is estabish to design and build the house for the people of Satun
2036-Higher level school has been introduce to the students
2037-First People's Unitay Parade was held in 1st May, 2037
2038-Peasanter has been helped by the government to raise their income
2040-Farmers, loggers, fishermen, hunters, traders, apparel makers, actors, & singers are the most famous jobs in Satun according to the Labor Ministry
2041-Tuan Syed Haji Karim Mat Bin Syed Ibrahim has enforce the Syariah & Hudud law in the legislature
2042-the Soviets had assassinate Tuan Syed Haji Karim Mat Bin Syed Ibrahim because of the changes in legislature, Communism propaganda's everywhere in the nation
2043-The people rises to against the Soviets
2044-The Islamist Revolutionary Party won the election along with Islamist Communism Party
2045-Tuan Syed Abdullah Rahman Bin Tuan Syed Haji Karim Mat has become the new national leader
2046-Peoples in Thea has been offered new home and new life in city.
2047-Medical has been introduce to the teenagers along with working as a government officer
2048-The government introduce tourism sector to the publics
2049-Computer has released for public usage. Schools across the nation must own a computer for student usage
2050-Internet finally introduce to the public after the Government kept it secret for 55 years
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Postby Toishima » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:46 am

You need to be a real life nation.
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Postby Lenciland » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:24 am

Zeinbrad wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
Evidence doesn't matter really if your the one that wins , the international community doesn't need evidence to believe the crap the media throws out

Wait Canada is isolationist like me ??

I think we just might need to be friends

Here's the thing, when a nation invades another, for no reason besides claims that have no evidence, and don't make sense (Why in the world would Britain supply terrorist in a nation they aren't even a enemy with?) Don't you think nations would help?

They did with Iraq in the thirties or forties that is how the Shah got in power.
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Postby La Republica De Filipinas » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:31 am

Lenciland wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Here's the thing, when a nation invades another, for no reason besides claims that have no evidence, and don't make sense (Why in the world would Britain supply terrorist in a nation they aren't even a enemy with?) Don't you think nations would help?

They did with Iraq in the thirties or forties that is how the Shah got in power.


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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:04 am

Imperium Nova wrote:Also, Zeinbrad, will you ever edit your post about the Brtish aircrafts attacking Nordic ships? Otherwise I will post soon about the invasion, it's been there for so long now.

I'll try to get one up today.
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