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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:07 pm

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Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Cyborg, is that the word I am thinking of?


hmm.... Doesn't seem to fit with the EVE Project, you could have her separate, and retain her powers. Though I honestly don't see something with all that 'living'. Sort of like Cyrax from Mortal Kombat. How much of him is actually Human? His brain, and even then it's modified by cybernetics to make him obedient with out flaw. I merely say this as you have missiles, and a lot, it's hard to saw where her organs would even be, as if she'd only have a heart, brain, and lungs.

technically she is superhuman whether or not she is a Cyborg or Android, because super human means beyond human after all and human is defined as being mortal or part of the human race; thus I would define her as the first F Up in the EVE Project, she was the bridge between humanity and machine an Iron Man taken to far I guess you could say, she bleeds, breathes, and is human to some degree; just half of her is not, but mentally and to some point physically she is human.
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Postby Harbertia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:11 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
hmm.... Doesn't seem to fit with the EVE Project, you could have her separate, and retain her powers. Though I honestly don't see something with all that 'living'. Sort of like Cyrax from Mortal Kombat. How much of him is actually Human? His brain, and even then it's modified by cybernetics to make him obedient with out flaw. I merely say this as you have missiles, and a lot, it's hard to saw where her organs would even be, as if she'd only have a heart, brain, and lungs.

technically she is superhuman whether or not she is a Cyborg or Android, because super human means beyond human after all and human is defined as being mortal or part of the human race; thus I would define her as the first F Up in the EVE Project, she was the bridge between humanity and machine an Iron Man taken to far I guess you could say, she bleeds, breathes, and is human to some degree; just half of her is not, but mentally and to some point physically she is human.


Wow :(

You make me sad for the Cyberoids :(

I never really saw them to such a degree of humanity. I mean, not as emotional as that was.

:( Though ultimately it is up to the Japanese Government what she is, who knows, much as Robert feared would happen to Amelia, they might just use her as a weapon of war, or dismantle her confiscated unactivate body to build others like her.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:14 pm

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Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:technically she is superhuman whether or not she is a Cyborg or Android, because super human means beyond human after all and human is defined as being mortal or part of the human race; thus I would define her as the first F Up in the EVE Project, she was the bridge between humanity and machine an Iron Man taken to far I guess you could say, she bleeds, breathes, and is human to some degree; just half of her is not, but mentally and to some point physically she is human.


Wow :(

You make me sad for the Cyberoids :(

I never really saw them to such a degree of humanity. I mean, not as emotional as that was.

:( Though ultimately it is up to the Japanese Government what she is, who knows, much as Robert feared would happen to Amelia, they might just use her as a weapon of war, or dismantle her confiscated unactivate body to build others like her.

I classify her as human much like I would Iron Man (Tony Stark) just circumstance made human into superhuman
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:16 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
Wow :(

You make me sad for the Cyberoids :(

I never really saw them to such a degree of humanity. I mean, not as emotional as that was.

:( Though ultimately it is up to the Japanese Government what she is, who knows, much as Robert feared would happen to Amelia, they might just use her as a weapon of war, or dismantle her confiscated unactivate body to build others like her.

I classify her as human much like I would Iron Man (Tony Stark) just circumstance made human into superhuman

The only thing superhuman about Tony Stark is his brain and thought process, otherwise the suit is a different thing from that.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:18 pm

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Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:I classify her as human much like I would Iron Man (Tony Stark) just circumstance made human into superhuman

The only thing superhuman about Tony Stark is his brain and thought process, otherwise the suit is a different thing from that.

EVE-0 still has a human brain and thought process, that is the thing that saves her from EMPs. Just if her systems get wiped out she will not have access to her weapons, HUD, or advanced systems. She basically becomes a normal girl coated in metal.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:20 pm

A lot of people in math class...

We should probably work out where everyone is in relation to one another.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:24 pm

Personal Freedom wrote:Where am I going?

I think anyone above 10th grade is in Math
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Postby Harbertia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:28 pm

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Personal Freedom wrote:Where am I going?

I think anyone above 10th grade is in Math


8th (9th to 12th graders)

8th is the end of Junior High in my state, also known as middle school.
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:29 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:The only thing superhuman about Tony Stark is his brain and thought process, otherwise the suit is a different thing from that.

EVE-0 still has a human brain and thought process, that is the thing that saves her from EMPs. Just if her systems get wiped out she will not have access to her weapons, HUD, or advanced systems. She basically becomes a normal girl coated in metal.

In all honesty, if the Japanese Government in the OM&T Universe has the knowledge of her being a weapon or being a lone android or cyborg, they would probably prioritize her for demolition. They don't like the idea of something created by the prior government to roam around so freely, much less gt close to the kids in the academy.

The only reason Amelia got spared this fate was because of Terra, not wanting to do possibly cause panic among the people about her turning into a hungry monster, and to keep her calm.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:31 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:EVE-0 still has a human brain and thought process, that is the thing that saves her from EMPs. Just if her systems get wiped out she will not have access to her weapons, HUD, or advanced systems. She basically becomes a normal girl coated in metal.

In all honesty, if the Japanese Government in the OM&T Universe has the knowledge of her being a weapon or being a lone android or cyborg, they would probably prioritize her for demolition. They don't like the idea of something created by the prior government to roam around so freely, much less gt close to the kids in the academy.

The only reason Amelia got spared this fate was because of Terra, not wanting to do possibly cause panic among the people about her turning into a hungry monster, and to keep her calm.

What if they used her as a weapon? If I found a complete and utter bad ass android that could be led into warfare like a sheep and destroy the field I would keep it, no matter who made the toy it would be mine then, that would be like finding a cool action figure and throwing it away because it was someone elses first.
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:38 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:In all honesty, if the Japanese Government in the OM&T Universe has the knowledge of her being a weapon or being a lone android or cyborg, they would probably prioritize her for demolition. They don't like the idea of something created by the prior government to roam around so freely, much less gt close to the kids in the academy.

The only reason Amelia got spared this fate was because of Terra, not wanting to do possibly cause panic among the people about her turning into a hungry monster, and to keep her calm.

What if they used her as a weapon? If I found a complete and utter bad ass android that could be led into warfare like a sheep and destroy the field I would keep it, no matter who made the toy it would be mine then, that would be like finding a cool action figure and throwing it away because it was someone elses first.

The Japanese Government has no need for such weapon, since like the modern day Japan in real life, they have Article 9 to abide by. Which makes them incapable of declaring war on anybody, instead focusing on defense of the islands, not too mention they have more than capable defense teams already.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:41 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:What if they used her as a weapon? If I found a complete and utter bad ass android that could be led into warfare like a sheep and destroy the field I would keep it, no matter who made the toy it would be mine then, that would be like finding a cool action figure and throwing it away because it was someone elses first.

The Japanese Government has no need for such weapon, since like the modern day Japan in real life, they have Article 9 to abide by. Which makes them incapable of declaring war on anybody, instead focusing on defense of the islands, not too mention they have more than capable defense teams already.

But they would not even test a sub human robotic frame being that could possibly take out a squad of men with just a flick of its wrist? I like being modest and all, but this is a machine built for war, designed to kill, and efficiently accomplish that goal. I understand why you would not want beings like her as your whole military, but I would certainly want one for a good "Oh Sh**" moment, you get your rear in a sling and one machine like her could handle it in moments.
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Postby Personal Freedom » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:46 pm

Harbertia wrote:
Charmera wrote:I think anyone above 10th grade is in Math


8th (9th to 12th graders)

8th is the end of Junior High in my state, also known as middle school.

12th Grade
I think 3A is on a different schedule.
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Postby Harbertia » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:47 pm

Personal Freedom wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
8th (9th to 12th graders)

8th is the end of Junior High in my state, also known as middle school.

12th Grade
I think 3A is on a different schedule.


I'm confused, I graduated from Senior High School during the Twelve Grade.
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Postby Charmera » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:52 pm

Personal Freedom wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
8th (9th to 12th graders)

8th is the end of Junior High in my state, also known as middle school.

12th Grade
I think 3A is on a different schedule.

They're the student teacher arent they?
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:55 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:The Japanese Government has no need for such weapon, since like the modern day Japan in real life, they have Article 9 to abide by. Which makes them incapable of declaring war on anybody, instead focusing on defense of the islands, not too mention they have more than capable defense teams already.

But they would not even test a sub human robotic frame being that could possibly take out a squad of men with just a flick of its wrist? I like being modest and all, but this is a machine built for war, designed to kill, and efficiently accomplish that goal. I understand why you would not want beings like her as your whole military, but I would certainly want one for a good "Oh Sh**" moment, you get your rear in a sling and one machine like her could handle it in moments.

If she was accepted by the government, then why would would she be allowed to attend to go to school? Of their intent was to make her a secret weapon, then why would they allow such thing to wonder freely about in the public? If she was accepted, she would not be able to anything without the permission of the government.

Mind you, this is not the US who gladly do such a thing.

Also, as the OP, I will not have anyone in my RP to have the capability to take out 10-30 men in "flick of a wrist." Another thing is that the academy's purpose is to teach those attending how to control their powers, so someone with a complete mastery would not be accepted.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:03 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:But they would not even test a sub human robotic frame being that could possibly take out a squad of men with just a flick of its wrist? I like being modest and all, but this is a machine built for war, designed to kill, and efficiently accomplish that goal. I understand why you would not want beings like her as your whole military, but I would certainly want one for a good "Oh Sh**" moment, you get your rear in a sling and one machine like her could handle it in moments.

If she was accepted by the government, then why would would she be allowed to attend to go to school? Of their intent was to make her a secret weapon, then why would they allow such thing to wonder freely about in the public? If she was accepted, she would not be able to anything without the permission of the government.

Mind you, this is not the US who gladly do such a thing.

Also, as the OP, I will not have anyone in my RP to have the capability to take out 10-30 men in "flick of a wrist." Another thing is that the academy's purpose is to teach those attending how to control their powers, so someone with a complete mastery would not be accepted.

My apologies for the over exaggeration, she actually would not be able to use her weapons systems until such cause came for them to be used. I am just stating that you have a blank piece of paper here embedded with the blueprints to a masterpiece, I would not throw that away if I was them; if I had any other option but putting her into the Academy I would, I think it would be interesting if she had already been accepted into the military and was being trained here, but right now the only choice I am seeing to get her into the story is hiding her abilities and shutting off her robotic parts until they are forced to awaken.
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:14 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:If she was accepted by the government, then why would would she be allowed to attend to go to school? Of their intent was to make her a secret weapon, then why would they allow such thing to wonder freely about in the public? If she was accepted, she would not be able to anything without the permission of the government.

Mind you, this is not the US who gladly do such a thing.

Also, as the OP, I will not have anyone in my RP to have the capability to take out 10-30 men in "flick of a wrist." Another thing is that the academy's purpose is to teach those attending how to control their powers, so someone with a complete mastery would not be accepted.

My apologies for the over exaggeration, she actually would not be able to use her weapons systems until such cause came for them to be used. I am just stating that you have a blank piece of paper here embedded with the blueprints to a masterpiece, I would not throw that away if I was them; if I had any other option but putting her into the Academy I would, I think it would be interesting if she had already been accepted into the military and was being trained here, but right now the only choice I am seeing to get her into the story is hiding her abilities and shutting off her robotic parts until they are forced to awaken.

Please, might I remind you, while you have your beliefs, I have mine as well. Quite frankly I love weapons, but I honestly don't see the importance of "badass" weapons, they are merely overrated.

The academy is not affiliated with the Japan's Defense Force so your other suggestion is rendered void. The only combat they teach is against other "supers" or large groups of hostile men (4-8), and only self-defense tactics.

If she was to shut down her robot parts and hide her abilities, how will the academy know that she is not human?
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:18 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:My apologies for the over exaggeration, she actually would not be able to use her weapons systems until such cause came for them to be used. I am just stating that you have a blank piece of paper here embedded with the blueprints to a masterpiece, I would not throw that away if I was them; if I had any other option but putting her into the Academy I would, I think it would be interesting if she had already been accepted into the military and was being trained here, but right now the only choice I am seeing to get her into the story is hiding her abilities and shutting off her robotic parts until they are forced to awaken.

Please, might I remind you, while you have your beliefs, I have mine as well. Quite frankly I love weapons, but I honestly don't see the importance of "badass" weapons, they are merely overrated.

The academy is not affiliated with the Japan's Defense Force so your other suggestion is rendered void. The only combat they teach is against other "supers" or large groups of hostile men (4-8), and only self-defense tactics.

If she was to shut down her robot parts and hide her abilities, how will the academy know that she is not human?

Her blood is littered with these little things I call Nano Bots, as a Frankenstein attempt to make her invulnerable on the outside they put nano bots in her blood to rebuild her metal parts should they get damaged. They use minerals from ingested materials and burn calories or electricity as fuel. If he blood was drawn then it would be almost one hundred percent clear that she is not human.
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Order of the Purple Cross
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Al-Khalifiya Campaign
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:23 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:Please, might I remind you, while you have your beliefs, I have mine as well. Quite frankly I love weapons, but I honestly don't see the importance of "badass" weapons, they are merely overrated.

The academy is not affiliated with the Japan's Defense Force so your other suggestion is rendered void. The only combat they teach is against other "supers" or large groups of hostile men (4-8), and only self-defense tactics.

If she was to shut down her robot parts and hide her abilities, how will the academy know that she is not human?

Her blood is littered with these little things I call Nano Bots, as a Frankenstein attempt to make her invulnerable on the outside they put nano bots in her blood to rebuild her metal parts should they get damaged. They use minerals from ingested materials and burn calories or electricity as fuel. If he blood was drawn then it would be almost one hundred percent clear that she is not human.

For someone to go to the academy, they need to have a record from someone using their powers somewhere, make it obvious to them that they aren't a normal human.

After that happens, the academy will test them.

So if she has no records of her usage of power and is trying her best to remain "human", the academy would not even look at her.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:25 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Her blood is littered with these little things I call Nano Bots, as a Frankenstein attempt to make her invulnerable on the outside they put nano bots in her blood to rebuild her metal parts should they get damaged. They use minerals from ingested materials and burn calories or electricity as fuel. If he blood was drawn then it would be almost one hundred percent clear that she is not human.

For someone to go to the academy, they need to have a record from someone using their powers somewhere, make it obvious to them that they aren't a normal human.

After that happens, the academy will test them.

So if she has no records of her usage of power and is trying her best to remain "human", the academy would not even look at her.

Alright, so if someone tried to rob her workplace and she used technology to disable them somehow then she would be accepted?
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Order of the Purple Cross
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:30 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:For someone to go to the academy, they need to have a record from someone using their powers somewhere, make it obvious to them that they aren't a normal human.

After that happens, the academy will test them.

So if she has no records of her usage of power and is trying her best to remain "human", the academy would not even look at her.

Alright, so if someone tried to rob her workplace and she used technology to disable them somehow then she would be accepted?

By report I mean something more like a letter of recommendation.

So nothing from attacks can be classified as true.

Also, any forms of immortality is banned from the RP, decelerated aging shall count towards non-supernatural based characters as well, like a Half-Longa. They also need to learn something! They just can't be in the academy because they has powers.
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:33 pm

Rynagria wrote:
Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:Alright, so if someone tried to rob her workplace and she used technology to disable them somehow then she would be accepted?

By report I mean something more like a letter of recommendation.

So nothing from attacks can be classified as true.

Also, any forms of immortality is banned from the RP, decelerated aging shall count towards non-supernatural based characters as well, like a Half-Longa. They also need to learn something! They just can't be in the academy because they have powers.

Neither is immortal, both can die, rather easily too if they aren't careful. She would be there to learn more about computers and such, even a Master can learn, she is more of a Adept that doesn't know better; he on the other hand would be pretty willing to learn new ways of combat in order to save lives.
Global War on Crime
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Operation: VENGEFUL SPIRIT
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Order of the Purple Cross
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Al-Khalifiya Campaign
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:37 pm

Holy Empire of Avalon wrote:
Rynagria wrote:By report I mean something more like a letter of recommendation.

So nothing from attacks can be classified as true.

Also, any forms of immortality is banned from the RP, decelerated aging shall count towards non-supernatural based characters as well, like a Half-Longa. They also need to learn something! They just can't be in the academy because they have powers.

Neither is immortal, both can die, rather easily too if they aren't careful. She would be there to learn more about computers and such, even a Master can learn, she is more of a Adept that doesn't know better; he on the other hand would be pretty willing to learn new ways of combat in order to save lives.

While masters can still learn, they can do it themselves. What makes your think that the teach anything past advanced technology courses and how they work? There's a problem of being a soldier and then becoming a student to, what makes you think new ways of combat will be taught at the academy, when they only focus in self-defense?
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