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Are we ready to rumble?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:57 pm

No! We need to sort things out!
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Yes! We work things out as we go along!
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Total votes : 18

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The blood ravens
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Postby The blood ravens » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:39 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ralnis wrote:I am mostly going off the strength and weakness the Choir has, like I said, I will probably work with them if they don't send hordes of zombies at Hobos( which I have deemed my special Forces, so they can make a appearance until round two of the Dead Island)


Ah, well being fanatics doesn't mean they can't get along with people. It's more a case of most people, as opposed to all.

North Calaveras wrote:well, if reapers are a no go I do have an idea for a custom race I made up if I can do that

There is nothing wrong with the Reapers, though I like custom races more personally.

Attacking Nuceria basically killed the chances of our two nations being anything other than neutral.
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:42 pm

The blood ravens wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ah, well being fanatics doesn't mean they can't get along with people. It's more a case of most people, as opposed to all.


There is nothing wrong with the Reapers, though I like custom races more personally.

Attacking Nuceria basically killed the chances of our two nations being anything other than neutral.

Do I hear an eternal crusade starting?
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Postby The blood ravens » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:45 pm

Ralnis wrote:
The blood ravens wrote:Attacking Nuceria basically killed the chances of our two nations being anything other than neutral.

Do I hear an eternal crusade starting?

What does that even sound like?
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North Calaveras
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:46 pm

so am I accepted?
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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:48 pm

The blood ravens wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Do I hear an eternal crusade starting?

What does that even sound like?

Many people shout things like;
Space Marines Attack!
For the Emperor!
Where's that Techpreist!
Where"s my fire support?!
and my favorites
Ordo Mallius
and
Exterminitus
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Postby The blood ravens » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:50 pm

Ralnis wrote:
The blood ravens wrote:What does that even sound like?

Many people shout things like;
Space Marines Attack!
For the Emperor!
Where's that Techpreist!
Where"s my fire support?!
and my favorites
Ordo Mallius
and
Exterminitus

You forgot STEHL RHEIN, and METAL BAWKSES.
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Postby Ralnis » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:52 pm

The blood ravens wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Many people shout things like;
Space Marines Attack!
For the Emperor!
Where's that Techpreist!
Where"s my fire support?!
and my favorites
Ordo Mallius
and
Exterminitus

You forgot STEHL RHEIN, and METAL BAWKSES.

How could I forgot about those :p
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The Fallen Jedi
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Postby The Fallen Jedi » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:06 pm

Nation Name: Dark Jedi-Communist Reich Union
Government Type: Senate, Council
Leader(s): Emperor Sanji Masaki, Premier Edward Richtofen
Number and Name of Species:
4 Species: Reichians, Humans, Dark Jedi, Anomalous Lizardus AKA 682

Number and Name of Planets:
Reserdan, New Germany, Rhen Var, Yavin IV, Raxus Prime, Korriban, Richtograd Prime, Hoth

Strengths:
Space Combat Specialists, Capable Of Using Meteors For A Blitzkrieg Strike, Well Placed Planetary Defenses

Weaknesses:
Recently Recovering from a Massive Civil War making the Military Disorganized, Meteor-Blitzkrieg takes time to deploy & reload, Planetary Defenses Cannot protect themselves, requiring additional units to defend them

Home Star Classification:
Able to sustain living life, Orange Sun

Home Planet Classification:
The Home planets of Reserdan and New Germany are capable of sustaining living life, both with the same environment that is able to sustain human life

Other Planet Classifications:
The Planets such as Rhen Var and Hoth have only a snowy environment, but is able to sustain li fe, if the inhabitants live in a insulated base with heat.
Other Planets, such as Yavin IV have a environment similar to the home planets.
Korriban holds a desert like environment, but has the ability to hold human life as the Sith formerly owned this planet.
Richtograd Prime is also a planet much like the home planets ecosystem

Map Color: Any Color
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Postby Hentaline » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:52 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ralnis wrote:You are a bunch of eldritch abominations with a more fanaticized theocracy then the IoM is to the Emperor.


Hardly. The IoM is ridiculous. The Choir is sensible. I can't really speak to the abomination accusation though.

Hentaline wrote:I actually have some explanations for this.


Excellent, I'd love to hear them. You do have more, yes?

Let's break this down.


1. Lead is resistant to radiation, so they might also have lead atoms in their atomic structure and therefore resistant to radiation, sort of like how we need iron in our bloodstream or we will suffer iron deficiency, or they are possible close relatives to the Tardigrade which can survive doses of radiation hundred of times more stronger than the daily human dose, so they might have evolved to withstand it or from the cockroach, which is completely immune to radiation.


Lead is resistant to radiation because, and only because, it is extremely dense. That very density protects objects behind the lead from irradiation, by mitigating the amount of harmful particles that can pass between the atoms of the lead superstructure. Unless your xenos have a skin with the density of solid lead, lead would not make them inherently more resistant to radiation. And don't even get me started on how a skin made of solid lead is impossible for an organic life-form.

Tardigrades survive radiation well because they do not undergo cellular division on a regular basis, and cockroaches function in the same manner. Tardigrade embryos exposed to radiation died, with few rare exceptions, even when the dosages were within levels a human can survive. Cockroaches are not, contrary to common myth, immune to radiation. If the radiation is a point source, and dissipates rapidly, then a cockroach faces few dangers; this is true. This is because cockroaches' cells only divide about once a week, when they molt. In any environment with lingering radiation of even a normal level for periods longer than one week, cockroaches too are vulnerable to radiation. The only way to not be vulnerable to radiation is to never undergo cellular replication, not really something an organic life-form can do.

2. Before they were complex organisms, they were probably single-celled organisms that were resistant to the cold and had began to form into multi-celled organisms, then they probably became a cold built adaption of a sort of insect then into either an extremely protective Warm blooded humanoid or very adapted Cold-blood humanoid.


What?

I'm sorry, if your organism has cells, it has water in those cells. Or sulfides, or liquid hydrogen. Some form of liquid. Liquids freeze when exposed to low temperatures, forming solids. Generally crystalline solids.

Crystals forming inside cell walls is bad. No matter what liquid your beings are composed of, that remains a fact. If they're composed of water, even water laced with glucose or another sugar to lower their freezing temperature, you're still looking at crystal formation, just more slowly. As in minutes, not seconds, and that at temperatures only barely below 0 F.

3. The Alien that can do that probably encountered similar species but couldn't affect them the same way, so they were probably biological geniuses that took dead DNA samples and tried to use their pheromones that adapted to the DNA sample that soon became genetic, sort of like a vaccine and met the more advanced versions of the species and used the primitive pheromones of the earlier species and took that risk of using the pheromones and somehow it worked.

Science bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not sure I follow the train of logic here. So, they found another species their pheromones couldn't effect. Then they... took DNA samples and their pheromones, and introduced them to one another? Then something about a vaccine, and something about meeting a more advanced species and things working?

I don't believe any science was used in the creation of that logic. Even if, perhaps, this alien race had pheromones somehow genetically-engineered to effect a race they had met before, you're still looking at pheromones that only effect a single species. Perhaps only a subset of that species, given the vast variety of olfactory triggers used by pheromones to alter the chemical cocktail of the brain. Not to mention how those pheromones would have had to be artificially produced and laced into the host organism, rather than organically produced.



Damn, I've been out-scienced >:( :bow: good job and I also put this down because I was bored and NO ONE HAS ACCEPTED ME YET!!!!
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Postby The blood ravens » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:02 pm

Hentaline wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Hardly. The IoM is ridiculous. The Choir is sensible. I can't really speak to the abomination accusation though.



Excellent, I'd love to hear them. You do have more, yes?

Let's break this down.




Lead is resistant to radiation because, and only because, it is extremely dense. That very density protects objects behind the lead from irradiation, by mitigating the amount of harmful particles that can pass between the atoms of the lead superstructure. Unless your xenos have a skin with the density of solid lead, lead would not make them inherently more resistant to radiation. And don't even get me started on how a skin made of solid lead is impossible for an organic life-form.

Tardigrades survive radiation well because they do not undergo cellular division on a regular basis, and cockroaches function in the same manner. Tardigrade embryos exposed to radiation died, with few rare exceptions, even when the dosages were within levels a human can survive. Cockroaches are not, contrary to common myth, immune to radiation. If the radiation is a point source, and dissipates rapidly, then a cockroach faces few dangers; this is true. This is because cockroaches' cells only divide about once a week, when they molt. In any environment with lingering radiation of even a normal level for periods longer than one week, cockroaches too are vulnerable to radiation. The only way to not be vulnerable to radiation is to never undergo cellular replication, not really something an organic life-form can do.



What?

I'm sorry, if your organism has cells, it has water in those cells. Or sulfides, or liquid hydrogen. Some form of liquid. Liquids freeze when exposed to low temperatures, forming solids. Generally crystalline solids.

Crystals forming inside cell walls is bad. No matter what liquid your beings are composed of, that remains a fact. If they're composed of water, even water laced with glucose or another sugar to lower their freezing temperature, you're still looking at crystal formation, just more slowly. As in minutes, not seconds, and that at temperatures only barely below 0 F.



I'm not sure I follow the train of logic here. So, they found another species their pheromones couldn't effect. Then they... took DNA samples and their pheromones, and introduced them to one another? Then something about a vaccine, and something about meeting a more advanced species and things working?

I don't believe any science was used in the creation of that logic. Even if, perhaps, this alien race had pheromones somehow genetically-engineered to effect a race they had met before, you're still looking at pheromones that only effect a single species. Perhaps only a subset of that species, given the vast variety of olfactory triggers used by pheromones to alter the chemical cocktail of the brain. Not to mention how those pheromones would have had to be artificially produced and laced into the host organism, rather than organically produced.



Damn, I've been out-scienced >:( :bow: good job and I also put this down because I was bored and NO ONE HAS ACCEPTED ME YET!!!!

YES YOU HAVE.

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Postby Iron Confederation » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:47 pm

Bredtonia wrote:On a related note, I suppose I better start discussions with The Cybran Nation, being that they practicaly have to pass through one of my three starting systems to go anywhere in the subsector. So, cybran, buddy, pal, whats up?

Well, the Cybrans attack by teleporting an ACU directly from Cybran space to an enemy planet, so you don't have to worry about us moving through your territory.

But yeah, so long as you aren't a super-aggressive nation I don't have a problem with an alliance.

I'm currently allied with the Turian Empire and we're talking with the CIS, so maybe we can get a four-nation alliance going?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:13 pm

Iron Confederation wrote:
Bredtonia wrote:On a related note, I suppose I better start discussions with The Cybran Nation, being that they practicaly have to pass through one of my three starting systems to go anywhere in the subsector. So, cybran, buddy, pal, whats up?

Well, the Cybrans attack by teleporting an ACU directly from Cybran space to an enemy planet, so you don't have to worry about us moving through your territory.

But yeah, so long as you aren't a super-aggressive nation I don't have a problem with an alliance.

I'm currently allied with the Turian Empire and we're talking with the CIS, so maybe we can get a four-nation alliance going?


I thought quantum gates had a range though? Like, they could go infinite distance between two gates, but tunneling to somewhere without a Gate took enough energy that it became prohibitive as the range increased.

By the by, though symbionts will likely be interrogated throughly, the Chosen by no means exterminated the human population of Ninth.
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Postby Iron Confederation » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:21 pm

Even if there is a limited range, considering we've got a small base of operations on the Turian Empire's capital planet (and they're on the direct opposite side of the galaxy) we can Gate to pretty much anywhere in the galaxy.

And hey, the Cybrans don't know that you've only captured them. The cell went silent. That usually only happens when they're dead.

And good luck getting any info out of them. None of the cells have any knowledge about the others. The Choir can probably learn that there are Cybran cells on most human-inhabited worlds, but that's about it.
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Postby Acroticus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:31 pm

Well it looks like one of my allies may be going to war soon....

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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:38 pm

am I accepted?
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Postby Iron Confederation » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:30 pm

Acroticus wrote:Well it looks like one of my allies may be going to war soon....

Really?

I don't see any reason for us to get involved...yet.
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Postby Acroticus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:57 pm

Iron Confederation wrote:
Acroticus wrote:Well it looks like one of my allies may be going to war soon....

Really?

I don't see any reason for us to get involved...yet.


Seemed like you might be leaning one way....


Anyhow what exactly are the rules regarding introducing new species? After all, the Turians are going to try to create their own alliance of sentient beings, under influence of the Emperor of course, in order to defeat any enemies. Right now it is just the Turians and a handful of Krogans. But I would like them to encounter another species soon...

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Postby Pac union » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:38 am

Thanks for accepting me i post later.

Many thanks
Hi

Please be Aware I DO have a learning disability which affects my spelling and my written Language

If I Made A Mistake, Please Let Me Know

Many Thanks

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Postby Hentaline » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:47 am

Blood Ravens was right, getting into a science argument with G-tech was a terrible idea, and also I did not know I was accepted thanks for letting me know -_-

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:39 am

Wasn't the Mark only developed after the Great Crusade TBR?
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Wasn't the Mark only developed after the Great Crusade TBR?


Mark 7 was produced in the final days of the HH.
I think not.
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Postby The blood ravens » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:42 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Wasn't the Mark only developed after the Great Crusade TBR?

No. It was before the Horus Heresy.

Mark V, and VI were made during the Horus Heresy.
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Postby Conjoined Empire » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:50 am

Nation Name: [the people have yet to establish an empire]
Government Type: Monarchy
Leader(s): Kazuto Kirigawa
Number and Name of Species: 1. Shinigami
Number and Name of Planets: None
Strengths: (excels in space combat, for example); Shinigami are skilled in the martial arts. They are highly disciplined and loyal. Ever since their emergence as a species they have been used as assassins, and as such, they gained the name Shinigami [gods of death].
Weaknesses:(species has a tendency to explode for no reason, for example): Their strength is their weakness. Their profinciency with traditional weaponry and their conservatism have kept them from developing technologically. And their reputation as merciless killers and murderers mean that they have almost no good
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Postby Liberated Counties » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:52 am

The blood ravens wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Wasn't the Mark only developed after the Great Crusade TBR?

No. It was before the Horus Heresy.

Mark V, and VI were made during the Horus Heresy.


I read up on this, the VI Was made before the heresy started
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Postby Conjoined Empire » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:54 am

HELLO EVERYONE!!!

It has been a horrific past month, and I am greatly overjoyed to announce my return to the Roleplay stage of Nationstates. It is great to see old veterans still posting, and several new faces joining as well. I hope that you will all enjoy it here, since this promises to be an even better RP than any of those that came before.
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