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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:21 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:What do you mean marching to Ireland? Nuz, no wars yet.


I sent them to Dublin and then they marched from there to the enemy city. And fine I won't start off with war. It will happen in the next page tho.
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:23 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Nation name: (to keep with the theme of religious rebels) Byzantine Hellenic zealot rebels

Ruler: (lazy naming, I can't find many good Late Greek names) Athena Mytilinites

Religion: Hellenism (Don't say it way dead; it was never dead)

Population: 10,000

Military Numbers: Since it is a rebel group, I'm hoping the whole population is accepted.

Main focus: Deposition of the emperor and restoration of a Hellenic Greek state

Other: Their reasoning for why it will work: if the Hellenic Greeks and Romans formed such massive empires, and Christian Romans had a failing empire, then Hellenism must be right. The Queen fancies herself to be an incarnate of Athena, or at least a blessed messenger. Their plans after restoration shall be conquest to reform the Byzantine, and possibly Alexandrian, Empire. They also hope to reform the Roman Empire, but even restoring the Alexandrian Empire is unrealistic currently. They are hoping to get positions at the emperor's court, help him conquer back lands, and then hold an insider coup.

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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:23 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:
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Not at all, Great Point! England will need to halve it's invading force and secure supply lines in Meath before launching a full out invasion. Otherwise, it will suffer the most brutal military failure of all time.

Make a choice, the less men the higher quality you can train them, if you lower your total army to 50,000 in all of your nation they will be top quality, but there may not be enough to sustain stability, however with the amount you have now (I forgot the exact #) they will hardly have enough swords, and that's forgetting about the guns that existed in low amounts.
So how big should my army be? I will cut it down but I wanna know to what size?
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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:25 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:Nation name: (to keep with the theme of religious rebels) Byzantine Hellenic zealot rebels

Ruler: (lazy naming, I can't find many good Late Greek names) Athena Mytilinites

Religion: Hellenism (Don't say it way dead; it was never dead)

Population: 10,000

Military Numbers: Since it is a rebel group, I'm hoping the whole population is accepted.

Main focus: Deposition of the emperor and restoration of a Hellenic Greek state

Other: Their reasoning for why it will work: if the Hellenic Greeks and Romans formed such massive empires, and Christian Romans had a failing empire, then Hellenism must be right. The Queen fancies herself to be an incarnate of Athena, or at least a blessed messenger. Their plans after restoration shall be conquest to reform the Byzantine, and possibly Alexandrian, Empire. They also hope to reform the Roman Empire, but even restoring the Alexandrian Empire is unrealistic currently. They are hoping to get positions at the emperor's court, help him conquer back lands, and then hold an insider coup.

Hellenism was not the Byzantines official religion even though it existed (as a tiny minority of the Greek population)
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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:27 pm

Alouite wrote:
Nuverikstan wrote:Make a choice, the less men the higher quality you can train them, if you lower your total army to 50,000 in all of your nation they will be top quality, but there may not be enough to sustain stability, however with the amount you have now (I forgot the exact #) they will hardly have enough swords, and that's forgetting about the guns that existed in low amounts.
So how big should my army be? I will cut it down but I wanna know to what size?


So I should make it 50,000? Your post mixed with mine where it said I said it.
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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:28 pm

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So I should make it 50,000? Your post mixed with mine where it said I said it.

Sure, but you could only deploy so many to Ireland, so try to divide and conquer, if that is possible at this point.
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Postby Amerique Royal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:28 pm

I have concerns with the map. This is 1495, right? So why in the world do Muslims still possess swaths of Spain even though their last stronghold, Granada, fell two years ago? Why does Poland own Bohemia? Novogrod was swallowed up by Muscovy twenty years ago. This map is inaccurate, where exactly did you get it from?
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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:32 pm

Alouite wrote:
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So I should make it 50,000? Your post mixed with mine where it said I said it.

Sure, but you could only deploy so many to Ireland, so try to divide and conquer, if that is possible at this point.


Could 25,000 well trained men take your form of Munster? And can I attack now or do I have to listen to Hannover and attack later?
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Postby Nuverikstan » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:38 pm

Ok, changed it. 25,000 troops are going to Ireland and 10,000 to the City of London. With 15,000 on hold.
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Postby OstroDeutschland » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:46 pm

The United Communist Solar Republic wrote:
OstroDeutschland wrote:Nation name: (Look at the map first) Kingdom of Ireland
Ruler: (Give your ruler a realistic name) James O'Leary
Religion: (If confused ask me) Catholicism mixed with Celtic slightly
Population: (Be realistic): 11 million but you can change it
Military Numbers: (No more than 5% of population): 66000
Main focus: (at start) to conquer Celtic lands to make a united Celtic empire and spread Catholicism and destroy Protestantism.
Other if possible can I have all Ireland or just the southern?
Claims on other lands: Scotland


Ehm, may I just add the population of ALL of Ireland was just below 2 mil. in 1500, so 11 mil. is highly unrealistic. Also, considering you have to choose on of the tribes (Listed in numbers), and you can't claim all of Ireland (At least I think), your pop would probably be realistically for that period at about 150-300k.

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Thanks.

I added Scotland in... And for some reason I added wales... And Northern Ireland because yeah... Never mind I don't think Ill try this rp as it has already gotten far and all the only places I feel like being are taken. I don't want to sound bad though.

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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:51 pm

Amerique Royal wrote:I have concerns with the map. This is 1495, right? So why in the world do Muslims still possess swaths of Spain even though their last stronghold, Granada, fell two years ago? Why does Poland own Bohemia? Novogrod was swallowed up by Muscovy twenty years ago. This map is inaccurate, where exactly did you get it from?

I got it from my mind when I decided this was an Alternate History thread as clearly stated in the title of this thread itself.
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Postby Ukraine Republic » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:53 pm

Al that thing you reported on the ship's i was told no war till later so it was changed to a message to england (seeing we also have to talk about trade)
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Postby Tribea » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:54 pm

Tribea wrote:CONCH, YOURE PAYING MORE THEN 2,500,000 FRANCS A MONTH FOR ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MERCENARIES TWENTY-FIVE FRANCS EACH! YOU HAVE PAY MORE TO DO WHAT YOU SAID! ITS EQSIER TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN TROOPS!
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Postby Ukraine Republic » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:55 pm

xD, The ottoman's will help establish a Swiss military if ..... they break ties with the Venice.
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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:55 pm

Ukraine Republic wrote:Al that thing you reported on the ship's i was told no war till later so it was changed to a message to england (seeing we also have to talk about trade)

The ships were not based in Southern Greece then?
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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:57 pm

Ukraine Republic wrote:xD, The ottoman's will help establish a Swiss military if ..... they break ties with the Venice.

Why so eagre to help the Europeans become more powerful, you talk of establishing a Swiss military, selling black powder, getting involved in their trade. You must really not mind that they are willing to stab you in your back when you blink, I mean come on if you have an advantage use it, dont sell it.
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Postby Tribea » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:57 pm

Ukraine Republic wrote:xD, The ottoman's will help establish a Swiss military if ..... they break ties with the Venice.

Would you finance that expensive troops when you can cheaper troops from home.
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Postby Ukraine Republic » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:58 pm

No, i mean not black powder old pike's and such. Just establish it.
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Postby Ukraine Republic » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Like we sell them ton's of old pike's and outdated sword's to get rid of such. But that would also influence us more into their country to.
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Postby Alouite » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:01 pm

Ukraine Republic wrote:Like we sell them ton's of old pike's and outdated sword's to get rid of such. But that would also influence us more into their country to.

Could you use better grammar and post in more detail in that last IC post, in parentheses you offer to support him psychicly how do you plan to use your mind to influence enemies?
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Postby Amerique Royal » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:02 pm

Ukraine Republic wrote:xD, The ottoman's will help establish a Swiss military if ..... they break ties with the Venice.

Dude, we are 1,000,000% richer than you. If the Swiss need an ocean of money, it shall be granted. I would seriously be more worried with my new plans that I am unveiling, however. >:}
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Postby Ukraine Republic » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:03 pm

Oh, you would be against burgundy and the Sassaniadian's now.
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Postby Tribea » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:06 pm

Amerique Royal wrote:
Ukraine Republic wrote:xD, The ottoman's will help establish a Swiss military if ..... they break ties with the Venice.

Dude, we are 1,000,000% richer than you. If the Swiss need an ocean of money, it shall be granted. I would seriously be more worried with my new plans that I am unveiling, however. >:}

GUYS, I WAS YELLING AT CONCH FOR BEING IDIOTIC IN HIS POST!
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Postby Kahlenberg » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:18 pm

Tribea wrote:
Amerique Royal wrote:Dude, we are 1,000,000% richer than you. If the Swiss need an ocean of money, it shall be granted. I would seriously be more worried with my new plans that I am unveiling, however. >:}

GUYS, I WAS YELLING AT CONCH FOR BEING IDIOTIC IN HIS POST!


Second that, the post was completely unrealistic from beginning to end. I posted critiques earlier as well. I really hope he improves his level significantly.

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Postby Kahlenberg » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:21 pm

Nuverikstan wrote:Ok, changed it. 25,000 troops are going to Ireland and 10,000 to the City of London. With 15,000 on hold.


I do appreciate this :)! Thanks!

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