Age of Glory, 1504 Alternate History RP, OOC/Signups

[Tribea]

CONCH, YOURE PAYING MORE THEN 2,500,000 FRANCS A MONTH FOR ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MERCENARIES TWENTY-FIVE FRANCS EACH! YOU HAVE PAY MORE TO DO WHAT YOU SAID! ITS EQSIER TO RECRUIT YOUR OWN TROOPS!

[Miracum-Izmir]

Nation name: Sultanate of Morroco(Look at the map first)
Ruler: Fazid I (Give your ruler a realistic name)
Religion: Sunni Islam(If confused ask me)
Population: 5,000,000(Be realistic)
Military Numbers: 100,000 (No more than 5% of population)
Main focus: MAKING huge morroco (at start)
Other: no

[Epraria]

Nation name: Sultanate of Morroco(Look at the map first)
Ruler: Fazid I (Give your ruler a realistic name)
Religion: Sunni Islam(If confused ask me)
Population: 5,000,000(Be realistic)
Military Numbers: 100,000 (No more than 5% of population)
Main focus: MAKING huge morroco (at start)
Other: no

I doubt Morocco could have 100,000 with a pop of 5 million. 30-40,000 would be more along the lines.

[Miracum-Izmir]

2% of 5,000,000 is 100,000,according to google

[Nuverikstan]

2% of 5,000,000 is 100,000,according to google

If you have 5,000,000 you are allowed to have 250,000 soldiers.

[Epraria]

2% of 5,000,000 is 100,000,according to google

If you have 5,000,000 you are allowed to have 250,000 soldiers.

That is realistically not allowed. The Logistics and economy would make it fail.

[Miracum-Izmir]

That would destroy my ecomny dude

[Epraria]

2% of 5,000,000 is 100,000,according to google

It's not realistic. Morocco wouldn't be able to sustain that many soldiers. The logistic and economic burden would be to great.

[Miracum-Izmir]

Morroco trades with all of its neighbours. I think it's possible.

[Epraria]

Morroco trades with all of its neighbours. I think it's possible.

Nope. Morocco's northern neighbors hate's Morocco and i doubt Algiers is that prosperous.

[Miracum-Izmir]

Ahem...

MALI.


Sorry bit of a cough there.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Morroco trades with all of its neighbours. I think it's possible.

Nope. Morocco's northern neighbors hate's Morocco and i doubt Algiers is that prosperous.

Algeria's rich in agriculture (supplies the bulk of the region's food (including France later on)), slaves, and commerce.

Besides, he's just following the setup made by the OP.

Ahem...

MALI.


Sorry bit of a cough there.

That too.

[Nuverikstan]

That would destroy my ecomny dude

I was just saying that is the most you could have right now. Not economy wise tho.

[Kahlenberg]

Morroco trades with all of its neighbours. I think it's possible.

There wouldn't be any reason for Morocco to maintain such an army in peace time. In war time, of course, they would be able to amass an army of such size.

[Epraria]

Nope. Morocco's northern neighbors hate's Morocco and i doubt Algiers is that prosperous.

Algeria's rich in agriculture (supplies the bulk of the region's food (including France later on)), slaves, and commerce.

Besides, he's just following the setup made by the OP.

Ahem...

MALI.


Sorry bit of a cough there.

That too.

I still doubt Morocco could field 100,000 men like that.

[Miracum-Izmir]

Who would keep such a large army in peace time anyway? It's WARTIME and pretty much 40,000 at peace

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Morroco trades with all of its neighbours. I think it's possible.

There wouldn't be any reason for Morocco to maintain such an army in peace time. In war time, of course, they would be able to amass an army of such size.

That is a good point, I must admit. Perhaps 1.5% of his population for a standing army?

[Kahlenberg]

Algeria's rich in agriculture (supplies the bulk of the region's food (including France later on)), slaves, and commerce.

Besides, he's just following the setup made by the OP.



That too.

I still doubt Morocco could field 100,000 men like that.

I'm afraid they have done so in real life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alc%C3%A1cer_Quibir

It was quantity over quality, though..

[Epraria]

Who would keep such a large army in peace time anyway? It's WARTIME and pretty much 40,000 at peace

You aren't at war. You just have horrible relations with Castille, Aragon and Portugal all who most likely have superior fleets and weapons and are most likely going to gang up on you.

[Kahlenberg]

There wouldn't be any reason for Morocco to maintain such an army in peace time. In war time, of course, they would be able to amass an army of such size.

That is a good point, I must admit. Perhaps 1.5% of his population for a standing army?

Well, it was extremely uncommon to have an army larger than, say, 30,000 men (for European countries) ready during peace time regardless of the size of the country (of course, the smaller, the smaller the standing army, but it wasn't all about size, wealth was very important as well. Many countries relied in majority on mercenaries whenever in peril..). I must add that I have seen countries maintaining 200,000 earlier and they seem to have got away with it, so if we plan on forbidding such numbers now we should level the playing field.

I have chosen a 15,000 standing army for a population of 1.3M (1.1%), I think 1.5% is indeed more realistic. I'm not sure whether everyone understands we're talking about a standing army.

[Kahlenberg]

Who would keep such a large army in peace time anyway? It's WARTIME and pretty much 40,000 at peace

If you consider yourself at war (or close to war), you could go into "war mode" and amass an army. Remember this is likely to ruin your economy and it will make your populace unhappy over time.

[Aercos]

That is a good point, I must admit. Perhaps 1.5% of his population for a standing army?

Well, it was extremely uncommon to have an army larger than, say, 30,000 men (for European countries) ready during peace time regardless of the size of the country (of course, the smaller, the smaller the standing army, but it wasn't all about size, wealth was very important as well. Many countries relied in majority on mercenaries whenever in peril..). I must add that I have seen countries maintaining 200,000 earlier and they seem to have got away with it, so if we plan on forbidding such numbers now we should level the playing field.

I have chosen a 15,000 standing army for a population of 1.3M (1.1%), I think 1.5% is indeed more realistic. I'm not sure whether everyone understands we're talking about a standing army.

Regarding Kahlenberg´s comment.
I fielded 200.000 (if I am not wrong) considering I got a large territory and population under my contorl at the time. Also, I am giving a close lecture to the Inca history and it seems they were pretty much able to field such armies. By the time I am playing, wikipedia argues the Emperor commanded 200.000 troops in one army. Should be noticed, these are guys wield copper spears and slingers. Best troops have bronze maces and iron has not been introduced to the military.

[Kahlenberg]

Well, it was extremely uncommon to have an army larger than, say, 30,000 men (for European countries) ready during peace time regardless of the size of the country (of course, the smaller, the smaller the standing army, but it wasn't all about size, wealth was very important as well. Many countries relied in majority on mercenaries whenever in peril..). I must add that I have seen countries maintaining 200,000 earlier and they seem to have got away with it, so if we plan on forbidding such numbers now we should level the playing field.

I have chosen a 15,000 standing army for a population of 1.3M (1.1%), I think 1.5% is indeed more realistic. I'm not sure whether everyone understands we're talking about a standing army.

Regarding Kahlenberg´s comment.
I fielded 200.000 (if I am not wrong) considering I got a large territory and population under my contorl at the time. Also, I am giving a close lecture to the Inca history and it seems they were pretty much able to field such armies. By the time I am playing, wikipedia argues the Emperor commanded 200.000 troops in one army. Should be noticed, these are guys wield copper spears and slingers. Best troops have bronze maces and iron has not been introduced to the military.

Sure, I believe the Inca could field an army of 200,000 in wartime. But do you really think they had 200,000 men waiting somewhere in barracks, devoting their entire life to the military? Most probably the core of such armies existed out of untrained farmers, that could be called to war whenever there was need for that. I remember to have seen a documentary about the Inca's once that claimed they had some sort of conscription-like system to amass an army in times of war.

[Aercos]

Exactly, that´s how I picture them. Maybe the core army is less than 20.000.

[The United Communist Solar Republic]

Nation name: Kingdom of Denmark
Ruler: King Herthald IV
Religion: Christianity
Population: 579,000
Military Numbers: 12,943
Main focus: Protection of borders from H.R.E and Sweden
Other: Raiding seaport villages and cities for plunder to further expand our nation.