Age of Glory, 1504 Alternate History RP, OOC/Signups

[Ukraine Republic]

I am but it's alternate we being influenced not full on. So, yeah. It's allowed

[Alouite]

Well time for the Non-Christian Byzantine rebel's to fall.

They will most certainly not be pagan, the OP's demands. Also, I will be giving you back up in your war soon enough, no worries.

[Alouite]

I am but it's alternate we being influenced not full on. So, yeah. It's allowed

Re-Write your post in literate English.d

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Look out everyone, the Etruscans are returning.

Since I might be able to restore a Hellenic Byzantium, which is by all means the Roman Empire, maybe we could have an alliance or, better yet, a royal marriage.

No Hellenic Religious majorities existed since long, long ago, there is nothing within the borders of reality to make it seem like it would suddenly return.

Like I said, it never truly died...but I do recognize that the majority of them are gone.

Plus, it's not so much a matter of converting the populace as keeping them down. Making it mandatory to be given Hellenic educated, and over generations converting. It is a long process, but it helps stay active. There will be dissenters, of course, but there are ways to deal with them.

[Alouite]

No Hellenic Religious majorities existed since long, long ago, there is nothing within the borders of reality to make it seem like it would suddenly return.

Like I said, it never truly died...but I do recognize that the majority of them are gone.

Plus, it's not so much a matter of converting the populace as keeping them down. Making it mandatory to be given Hellenic educated, and over generations converting. It is a long process, but it helps stay active. There will be dissenters, of course, but there are ways to deal with them.

Not even the royalty was Hellenic, why in heck would they convert?

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Like I said, it never truly died...but I do recognize that the majority of them are gone.

Plus, it's not so much a matter of converting the populace as keeping them down. Making it mandatory to be given Hellenic educated, and over generations converting. It is a long process, but it helps stay active. There will be dissenters, of course, but there are ways to deal with them.

Not even the royalty was Hellenic, why in heck would they convert?

I didn't say the royalty was Hellenistic. These are rebels. Well, not so much all religious as much as a group of rebels, most with different reasons, led by a zealot too attached to the old ways. They do not plan to convert royalty, but instead invade the court (in the same way Jewish individuals would hold important positions in certain nations) and hold a coup from the inside. Possibly even pose as Christians and friendly people.

Along with this, a large degree of renaissance art was based off of Hellenism, would it seem so outlandish that someone would see that and think for a moment or two or a few years about it?

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

By the way, I'd like Florence to be henceforth known as the Consulship of Etruria.

Look out everyone, the Etruscans are returning.

Since I might be able to restore a Hellenic Byzantium, which is by all means the Roman Empire, maybe we could have an alliance or, better yet, a royal marriage.

Darn tootin'.

[Amerique Royal]

Look out everyone, the Etruscans are returning.

Since I might be able to restore a Hellenic Byzantium, which is by all means the Roman Empire, maybe we could have an alliance or, better yet, a royal marriage.

No Hellenic Religious majorities existed since long, long ago, there is nothing within the borders of reality to make it seem like it would suddenly return.

Agreed to the max.

[Alouite]

Not even the royalty was Hellenic, why in heck would they convert?

I didn't say the royalty was Hellenistic. These are rebels. Well, not so much all religious as much as a group of rebels, most with different reasons, led by a zealot too attached to the old ways.

Fine, I will give you a pass, but realize that as soon as the word gets out you will lose Christian support and are susceptible to crusade. What will the Zealot be named? And If you don't make a really good, detailed transition from Orthodox to Hellenistic religion that you will lose this privilege.

[Sau Beiu]

Nation name: Slavia
Ruler: Tsar Aleksander VI
Religion: Orthodox
Population: 12 million
Military Numbers: 600,000
Main focus: Military
Other:

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Actually, Duchy of Tuscany is fine. I'll still be using the title "Consul" though.

[Alouite]

Nation name: Slavia
Ruler: Tsar Aleksander VI
Religion: Orthodox
Population: 12 million
Military Numbers: 600,000
Main focus: Military
Other:

Did you look at the map, Slavia aint a nation in this game.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

I didn't say the royalty was Hellenistic. These are rebels. Well, not so much all religious as much as a group of rebels, most with different reasons, led by a zealot too attached to the old ways.

Fine, I will give you a pass, but realize that as soon as the word gets out you will lose Christian support and are susceptible to crusade. What will the Zealot be named? And If you don't make a really good, detailed transition from Orthodox to Hellenistic religion that you will lose this privilege.

It was all in the app.

I believe the name was Athenaia Mytillinites. It was lazy naming, but a good Late Greek name is so hard to find...

I realize all of the problems with leading a Pagan nation in the current time, and the transition shall be slow and detailed. Most likely starting with a few forced conversions (which most likely will lead to deaths rather than converters), teaching school children to be Hellenic, etc. Active missionaries and resources shall be devoted to conversion, what little resources there are to offer, but that shall stay internal. Until a position of power is gained, the Hellenistic practices will remain something of a "state secret" to never be mentioned near foreigners. There is the problem of merchants, however, so this facade likely will not last long, even with extreme effort.

[Amerique Royal]

Question! Is the Doge's Cannon small enough to be...put on a ship? Probably not, I'd assume.

[Alouite]

Question! Is the Doge's Cannon small enough to be...put on a ship? Probably not, I'd assume.

Not yet, but if adapted like the Ottomans Great Bombard, eventually.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

So, does that count as acceptance of the app?

[Alouite]

Fine, I will give you a pass, but realize that as soon as the word gets out you will lose Christian support and are susceptible to crusade. What will the Zealot be named? And If you don't make a really good, detailed transition from Orthodox to Hellenistic religion that you will lose this privilege.

It was all in the app.

I believe the name was Athenaia Mytillinites. It was lazy naming, but a good Late Greek name is so hard to find...

I realize all of the problems with leading a Pagan nation in the current time, and the transition shall be slow and detailed. Most likely starting with a few forced conversions (which most likely will lead to deaths rather than converters), teaching school children to be Hellenic, etc. Active missionaries and resources shall be devoted to conversion, what little resources there are to offer, but that shall stay internal. Until a position of power is gained, the Hellenistic practices will remain something of a "state secret" to never be mentioned near foreigners. There is the problem of merchants, however, so this facade likely will not last long, even with extreme effort.

Repost the APP please.

[Amerique Royal]

Question! Is the Doge's Cannon small enough to be...put on a ship? Probably not, I'd assume.

Not yet, but if adapted like the Ottomans Great Bombard, eventually.

Even though it can't be put on a ship, I have a pretty interesting plan it will prove instrumental in >:D

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Nation name: (to keep with the theme of religious rebels) Byzantine Hellenic zealot rebels

Ruler: (lazy naming, I can't find many good Late Greek names) Athena Mytilinites

Religion: Hellenism (Don't say it way dead; it was never dead)

Population: 10,000

Military Numbers: Since it is a rebel group, I'm hoping the whole population is accepted.

Main focus: Deposition of the emperor and restoration of a Hellenic Greek state

Other: Their reasoning for why it will work: if the Hellenic Greeks and Romans formed such massive empires, and Christian Romans had a failing empire, then Hellenism must be right. The Queen fancies herself to be an incarnate of Athena, or at least a blessed messenger. Their plans after restoration shall be conquest to reform the Byzantine, and possibly Alexandrian, Empire. They also hope to reform the Roman Empire, but even restoring the Alexandrian Empire is unrealistic currently. They are hoping to get positions at the emperor's court, help him conquer back lands, and then hold an insider coup.

If the full population of varied rebels is too large, I'll lower it like last time. On consideration, it most likely is too large.

[Alouite]

Not yet, but if adapted like the Ottomans Great Bombard, eventually.

Even though it can't be put on a ship, I have a pretty interesting plan it will prove instrumental in >:D

Great!

[Ukraine Republic]

xD, We are being influenced by the Christian Nation's seeing never used the Sharia law, this meaning no Muslim father can convert to another religion. Ottoman law required the execution of all former Muslims and children of non-Muslims of a Muslim father in accordance with the Sharia law on apostasy.

[Amerique Royal]

Even though it can't be put on a ship, I have a pretty interesting plan it will prove instrumental in >:D

Great!

Oh, and how is the production on them? Are they costly? How much can Venice produce in a year?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Great!

Oh, and how is the production on them? Are they costly? How much can Venice produce in a year?

You can't produce those cannons. You don't have the technology. And transporting them is costly and ineffective: One ship can only carry like one or two at a time, and the ship would travel very slow

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Nation name: (to keep with the theme of religious rebels) Byzantine Hellenic zealot rebels

Ruler: (lazy naming, I can't find many good Late Greek names) Athena Mytilinites

Religion: Hellenism (Don't say it way dead; it was never dead)

Population: 10,000

Military Numbers: Since it is a rebel group, I'm hoping the whole population is accepted.

Main focus: Deposition of the emperor and restoration of a Hellenic Greek state

Other: Their reasoning for why it will work: if the Hellenic Greeks and Romans formed such massive empires, and Christian Romans had a failing empire, then Hellenism must be right. The Queen fancies herself to be an incarnate of Athena, or at least a blessed messenger. Their plans after restoration shall be conquest to reform the Byzantine, and possibly Alexandrian, Empire. They also hope to reform the Roman Empire, but even restoring the Alexandrian Empire is unrealistic currently. They are hoping to get positions at the emperor's court, help him conquer back lands, and then hold an insider coup.

If the full population of varied rebels is too large, I'll lower it like last time. On consideration, it most likely is too large.

So, otherwise than your population recommendations, is the app fine?

[Ukraine Republic]

We can make many cannon's SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR SHIP'S!