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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:39 pm

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Why not? They're just nasty, designed specifically so the enemy cannot heal.

so? we're trying to kill them, da? if we kill them, then they can't heal anyways, seems like a waste of thinking to me


No, no you're absolutely NOT trying to kill them. You're trying to make them operationally ineffective, or in other words you're trying to make it so they can't fight anymore. The entire point behind small arms innovation is to make it so you can force the enemy to stop fighting without actually killing them - that way war becomes less "statistical" for both sides.

Hollow point ammunition only really has two places: Hunting and target shooting. In hunting it's great because often times a single shot won't do it (as opposed to against humans when a single shot usually does them in). In target it's good because they're a bit more accurate.
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Postby Terragrigia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:40 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Terragrigia wrote:I mean I don't understand...

What did you feel when you first saw that thing explode?

I thought "Oh sh!t I nuked the place...."

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Postby Monfrox » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:40 pm

Terragrigia wrote:
Monfrox wrote:What did you feel when you first saw that thing explode?

I thought "Oh sh!t I nuked the place...."

Exactly.

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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:44 pm

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Oaledonia wrote:A SABOT round flies too fast to bounce, it will overmach and penetrate at any angle.


Indeed. In fact back in the sixties when sabot ammunition was being applied to small arms, one of the problems was literally that it penetrated so much it went out the back of the person's body without causing much shock.

Another good one: when the AMX 13 90 came out it only shot sabot, there were real concerns that it wouldn't damage Soviet armor because it penetrated all the way through, leaving the vehicle operational do to the lack of structural damage.
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Postby Terragrigia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:45 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Sauritican wrote:so? we're trying to kill them, da? if we kill them, then they can't heal anyways, seems like a waste of thinking to me


No, no you're absolutely NOT trying to kill them. You're trying to make them operationally ineffective, or in other words you're trying to make it so they can't fight anymore. The entire point behind small arms innovation is to make it so you can force the enemy to stop fighting without actually killing them - that way war becomes less "statistical" for both sides.

Hollow point ammunition only really has two places: Hunting and target shooting. In hunting it's great because often times a single shot won't do it (as opposed to against humans when a single shot usually does them in). In target it's good because they're a bit more accurate.

They band Triangle Blades for the same reason. the wounds were to hard to stitch up.

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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:47 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Sauritican wrote:so? we're trying to kill them, da? if we kill them, then they can't heal anyways, seems like a waste of thinking to me


No, no you're absolutely NOT trying to kill them. You're trying to make them operationally ineffective, or in other words you're trying to make it so they can't fight anymore. The entire point behind small arms innovation is to make it so you can force the enemy to stop fighting without actually killing them - that way war becomes less "statistical" for both sides.

Hollow point ammunition only really has two places: Hunting and target shooting. In hunting it's great because often times a single shot won't do it (as opposed to against humans when a single shot usually does them in). In target it's good because they're a bit more accurate.

Canister C.R.A.M. shells are illegal, but Russia loads them on the T90A1
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:48 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Indeed. In fact back in the sixties when sabot ammunition was being applied to small arms, one of the problems was literally that it penetrated so much it went out the back of the person's body without causing much shock.

Another good one: when the AMX 13 90 came out it only shot sabot, there were real concerns that it wouldn't damage Soviet armor because it penetrated all the way through, leaving the vehicle operational do to the lack of structural damage.


And then there's always the fabled ".12 M1", basically an M1 Abram's main cannon sabotted down to .12" (3mm). Supposedly it left the muzzle so fast the barrel was actually damaged due to the flood of air from the resulting air gab.
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:48 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
No, no you're absolutely NOT trying to kill them. You're trying to make them operationally ineffective, or in other words you're trying to make it so they can't fight anymore. The entire point behind small arms innovation is to make it so you can force the enemy to stop fighting without actually killing them - that way war becomes less "statistical" for both sides.

Hollow point ammunition only really has two places: Hunting and target shooting. In hunting it's great because often times a single shot won't do it (as opposed to against humans when a single shot usually does them in). In target it's good because they're a bit more accurate.

Canister C.R.A.M. shells are illegal, but Russia loads them on the T90A1

cause the russians don't care about NATO
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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:50 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Canister C.R.A.M. shells are illegal, but Russia loads them on the T90A1

cause the russians don't care about NATO

*UN not NATO

The T90's garbage anyways.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Sauritican » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:51 pm

IIIIIIIIIIII'm bored
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Postby Chedastan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:51 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:cause the russians don't care about NATO

*UN not NATO

The T90's garbage anyways.

Unless you upgrade it to the point of insanity.
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Postby Belavakia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:54 pm

Kyoto's my kitty now :P

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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:55 pm

Chedastan wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:*UN not NATO

The T90's garbage anyways.

Unless you upgrade it to the point of insanity.

At which point you should just buy a western tank for cheaper.

QUICK DRAW > roundel system cuz no catastrophic ammunition cook off.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Chedastan » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:59 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Chedastan wrote:Unless you upgrade it to the point of insanity.

At which point you should just buy a western tank for cheaper.

QUICK DRAW > roundel system cuz no catastrophic ammunition cook off.

Or, you turned your T-90 into a western tank. So western in fact, that it's more west than west, it would be, 'wester'.


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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:11 pm

let's stop talking about tanks and make some posts!
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Postby Sauritican » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:12 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:let's stop talking about tanks and make some posts!

yes, someone needs to give this Utahraptor some excitement. And if you make an innuendo about that, I'll find a way to hurt you
I am a proud socialist catholic Mexican-American, and Scalie from Utah
Call me saur or sauri, equesti, equestican or my full name.
All hail Queen Chrysalis, Queen of all Changelings
I am the Changeling Prince, as decreed by Sine

Class J13: Tier 4, Type VI, Superpower
Ns Hetalia, you join da?
Станьте одним Россию матушку, да?
OOC:I'm socialist with help from NS
I'm a patriotic and authoritarian Socialist
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sauritican/detail=factbook/id=108196Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWwefan117
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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:13 pm

Sauritican wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:let's stop talking about tanks and make some posts!

yes, someone needs to give this Utahraptor some excitement. And if you make an innuendo about that, I'll find a way to hurt you

i can...
Predictably unpredictable and fabulous at the same time!
XA-1MVGLHS
Queen Oberon, our red devil! Click the URL to learn about our Leader!
Edelweiss and Reina, the two previous ones are still alive. None of Tsuyoi Tekikoku's leaders are killed in their duels of succession.


I don't use NS stats.

I'd prefer the pronouns she/her,if your referring to me

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Postby Sauritican » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:14 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Sauritican wrote:yes, someone needs to give this Utahraptor some excitement. And if you make an innuendo about that, I'll find a way to hurt you

i can...

how?
I am a proud socialist catholic Mexican-American, and Scalie from Utah
Call me saur or sauri, equesti, equestican or my full name.
All hail Queen Chrysalis, Queen of all Changelings
I am the Changeling Prince, as decreed by Sine

Class J13: Tier 4, Type VI, Superpower
Ns Hetalia, you join da?
Станьте одним Россию матушку, да?
OOC:I'm socialist with help from NS
I'm a patriotic and authoritarian Socialist
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sauritican/detail=factbook/id=108196Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWwefan117
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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:15 pm

Sauritican wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:i can...

how?

have my new personification run around your nation!
Predictably unpredictable and fabulous at the same time!
XA-1MVGLHS
Queen Oberon, our red devil! Click the URL to learn about our Leader!
Edelweiss and Reina, the two previous ones are still alive. None of Tsuyoi Tekikoku's leaders are killed in their duels of succession.


I don't use NS stats.

I'd prefer the pronouns she/her,if your referring to me

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Postby Vesperian Republic » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:15 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Sauritican wrote:how?

have my new personification run around your nation!

MEW!

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Postby Sauritican » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:15 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Sauritican wrote:how?

have my new personification run around your nation!

oh...


yay Vesp. is on! :hug:
Vesperian Republic wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:have my new personification run around your nation!

MEW!

:hug:
I am a proud socialist catholic Mexican-American, and Scalie from Utah
Call me saur or sauri, equesti, equestican or my full name.
All hail Queen Chrysalis, Queen of all Changelings
I am the Changeling Prince, as decreed by Sine

Class J13: Tier 4, Type VI, Superpower
Ns Hetalia, you join da?
Станьте одним Россию матушку, да?
OOC:I'm socialist with help from NS
I'm a patriotic and authoritarian Socialist
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sauritican/detail=factbook/id=108196Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWwefan117
Co-Nation to equestican

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Postby Tsuyoi Tekikoku » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:16 pm

Vesperian Republic wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:have my new personification run around your nation!

MEW!

*pets*
Predictably unpredictable and fabulous at the same time!
XA-1MVGLHS
Queen Oberon, our red devil! Click the URL to learn about our Leader!
Edelweiss and Reina, the two previous ones are still alive. None of Tsuyoi Tekikoku's leaders are killed in their duels of succession.


I don't use NS stats.

I'd prefer the pronouns she/her,if your referring to me

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Postby Vesperian Republic » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:17 pm

Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:
Vesperian Republic wrote:MEW!

*pets*

*purrs*

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Postby Sauritican » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:24 pm

Vesperian Republic wrote:
Tsuyoi tekikoku wrote:*pets*

*purrs*

*pets*
I am a proud socialist catholic Mexican-American, and Scalie from Utah
Call me saur or sauri, equesti, equestican or my full name.
All hail Queen Chrysalis, Queen of all Changelings
I am the Changeling Prince, as decreed by Sine

Class J13: Tier 4, Type VI, Superpower
Ns Hetalia, you join da?
Станьте одним Россию матушку, да?
OOC:I'm socialist with help from NS
I'm a patriotic and authoritarian Socialist
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=sauritican/detail=factbook/id=108196Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWwefan117
Co-Nation to equestican

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Postby Vesperian Republic » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:34 pm

Sauritican wrote:
Vesperian Republic wrote:*purrs*

*pets*

*purrs....then bites*

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