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Postby Legital » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:27 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Interesting .... Is that because a lack of avaliable Aircraft or fuel shortages ?

Also have the traitors deployed any Heavy Armor ? Don't really want to have a run in with a couple Leman Russ's


I know quite a bit about the Imperial Guard , they service their own fleets of Valkyries ,Vendettas and some Vulture gunships which are not under control of the Imperial Navy . I was asking a general question about air-support being avaliable


Lack of aircraft. No Imperial Guard regiments on garrison have any. Any surviving Navy forces and PDF will be our only chance of air support.

Speaking of the navy, I have a very, very special event planned for them in my next post.

Also, the PDF is very powerful. They have their own aircraft and armor, so yes, they have heavy armor. It just depends if I will be sending any your way or not.

And I am very well aware of what constitutes as heavy, light, and medium armor.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:28 pm

Legital wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Interesting .... Is that because a lack of avaliable Aircraft or fuel shortages ?

Also have the traitors deployed any Heavy Armor ? Don't really want to have a run in with a couple Leman Russ's


I know quite a bit about the Imperial Guard , they service their own fleets of Valkyries ,Vendettas and some Vulture gunships which are not under control of the Imperial Navy . I was asking a general question about air-support being avaliable


Lack of aircraft. No Imperial Guard regiments on garrison have any. Any surviving Navy forces and PDF will be our only chance of air support.

Speaking of the navy, I have a very, very special event planned for them in my next post.

Also, the PDF is very powerful. They have their own aircraft and armor, so yes, they have heavy armor. It just depends if I will be sending any your way or not.

And I am very well aware of what constitutes as heavy, light, and medium armor.

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Oh I'm sure your aware of it Leg , was pointing it out to the other guy .

Was that post edited so I can throw a post up ?
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Imperial City-States wrote:Oh I'm sure your aware of it Leg , was pointing it out to the other guy .

Was that post edited so I can throw a post up ?


Not yet, give me a bit. It wont be until a few hours or even maybe tomorrow.
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That's cool , I appreciate you even letting me join .


Is it possible that we could "liberate " the PDF's aircraft and pilots ?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:34 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:That's cool , I appreciate you even letting me join .


Is it possible that we could "liberate " the PDF's aircraft and pilots ?

That's my plan if we ever run into a superheavy tank.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:35 pm

Hell I'd be willing to help you storm the thing if we are in an urban environment , its tracks out and there isn't any accompanying infantry ...
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:35 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:That's cool , I appreciate you even letting me join .


Is it possible that we could "liberate " the PDF's aircraft and pilots ?


Eventually somewhere waaaaaay down the road, maybe, but I'd imagine we'd have to fight off the attack first. One thing at a time and all that.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:36 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Hell I'd be willing to help you storm the thing if we are in an urban environment , its tracks out and there isn't any accompanying infantry ...

Wait, take it's tracks out?! Do we look like we're rolling in spare baneblade track links here? No, we'll have to take it in one piece. It would cost us an entire company, but it can be done.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:40 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Hell I'd be willing to help you storm the thing if we are in an urban environment , its tracks out and there isn't any accompanying infantry ...

Wait, take it's tracks out?! Do we look like we're rolling in spare baneblade track links here? No, we'll have to take it in one piece. It would cost us an entire company, but it can be done.



I'm not willing to sacrifice a platoon , tracks are replaceable and where there is a Baneblades there is going to be a logistics unit to support it .

Take out a track and you prevent it from being to much of a threat
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:43 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Wait, take it's tracks out?! Do we look like we're rolling in spare baneblade track links here? No, we'll have to take it in one piece. It would cost us an entire company, but it can be done.



I'm not willing to sacrifice a platoon , tracks are replaceable and where there is a Baneblades there is going to be a logistics unit to support it .

Take out a track and you prevent it from being to much of a threat

Nonsense! Lay down smoke, storm it with grenadiers, clamber the hull, kill the crew, and roll that thing to your lines. Also, there's a technical term for a baneblade without tracks: a fortress.

Of course, Leg now knows I plan to loot any baneblade that comes our way, so he won't be sending those.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:45 pm

You seem to be neglecting the fact that it will likely had other armor and infantry support .

Baneblades do have thermal optics ...
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:48 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:You seem to be neglecting the fact that it will likely had other armor and infantry support .

Baneblades do have thermal optics ...

They also have guns, which still work even after you take out the treads. The smoke's not for the baneblade anyway. Better to put that AT to neutralizing support rather than immobilizing a fortress that should stay still anyway.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:51 pm

While I specialize in urban warfare all of my AT is very short-ranged meaning I'm going to have to be at very close range in order to disable/destroy it .

I'd think It best to immobilize it to pin it down for an arty strike . Use White Phosporus to burn the crew alive so you can take the vehicle intact
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:53 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:While I specialize in urban warfare all of my AT is very short-ranged meaning I'm going to have to be at very close range in order to disable/destroy it .

I'd think It best to immobilize it to pin it down for an arty strike . Use White Phosporus to burn the crew alive so you can take the vehicle intact

And if the white phosphorus destroys the engine or detonates the magazine instead?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:54 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:While I specialize in urban warfare all of my AT is very short-ranged meaning I'm going to have to be at very close range in order to disable/destroy it .

I'd think It best to immobilize it to pin it down for an arty strike . Use White Phosporus to burn the crew alive so you can take the vehicle intact

And if the white phosphorus destroys the engine or detonates the magazine instead?



Actually it doesn't burn hot enough to detonate ammunition and fry the engines so there is actually fairly little concern there
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:And if the white phosphorus destroys the engine or detonates the magazine instead?



Actually it doesn't burn hot enough to detonate ammunition and fry the engines so there is actually fairly little concern there

Do we even have white phosphorus?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:58 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

Actually it doesn't burn hot enough to detonate ammunition and fry the engines so there is actually fairly little concern there

Do we even have white phosphorus?



White Phosporus is fairly easy to make . I'm sure the Imperial equivalent is avaliable is have to research it though
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:01 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Do we even have white phosphorus?



White Phosporus is fairly easy to make . I'm sure the Imperial equivalent is avaliable is have to research it though

No, I mean this regiment. Would a certain company of maidens from Thermidor or another company of Heartsworn have any white phosphorus?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:04 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

White Phosporus is fairly easy to make . I'm sure the Imperial equivalent is avaliable is have to research it though

No, I mean this regiment. Would a certain company of maidens from Thermidor or another company of Heartsworn have any white phosphorus?



It would stand to reason that somewhere someone has it , id be willing to help you "secure " A PDF Armory with White Phosporus munitions
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:05 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:No, I mean this regiment. Would a certain company of maidens from Thermidor or another company of Heartsworn have any white phosphorus?



It would stand to reason that somewhere someone has it , id be willing to help you "secure " A PDF Armory with White Phosporus munitions

Skip the armory, clamber the behnblade.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:07 pm

This may be a foreign concept but I'd like to avoid taking uneeded casualties
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:08 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:This may be a foreign concept but I'd like to avoid taking uneeded casualties

Don't worry, I have grenadiers for the job.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:10 pm

Doesn't make you bullet proof lol .
Might be safer just to de-track it and hitting it with WP munitions

I'm rather concerned with the possibility of Ambush's along my path of travel . I would like to avoid losing Chimeras and men before I even reach the Main Base
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Postby Legital » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:18 am

Imperial City-States wrote:Doesn't make you bullet proof lol .
Might be safer just to de-track it and hitting it with WP munitions

I'm rather concerned with the possibility of Ambush's along my path of travel . I would like to avoid losing Chimeras and men before I even reach the Main Base


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