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Postby Legital » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Aelosia wrote:I have a question. If the hangar used by thermidorians in the motor pool is hit by bombardment, it will be wiped off the map but it will destroy a substantial part of the adjacent motorpool. If I write that getting hit, pretty much everyone that is deployed at the motorpool will be vaporized. I am willling to take the losses as it opens an interesting path for the story, but I would damage many companies aside from mine really hard. I will let the other players to decide if the munition depot is hit or not, please let me know your opinion.


Bredtonia wrote:I can't really put a very weighty opinion, as I'm one of the handful of companies that probibly wouldn't take casualties from such a hit (unless it destroyed the entire base). That said, it's probibly wouldn't go for it myself - the discription given seems to indicate a fairly haphazard, desperate bombing under heavy AA fire. Therefore, the chance of them getting a lucky hit in those conditions (in the area where the AA is the heaviest) that penetrates the hangerbay (with a bomb designed to detonate on impact) and lands close enough to the munitions storage to set off ammunition (designed to be carted in open transports through artillery barrages) just feels well, unlikely. Still, could happen.


While it is certainly a possibility a bomb could set off the entire munitions storage, it's also unlikely. The hangers are pretty sturdy, but one bomb would likely take it down. Anything that further fell would probably be the bomb which detonates the entire stack.

I expect people to take realistic losses (naturally, some may be hit harder than others) but I'm not forcing anyone to cripple themselves. These are divebombers, so when they release their bombs they are out. The raid will probably last maybe a minute or so, but a minute of falling bombs is also pretty devastating.

Although, do keep in mind they know the base has no aircraft, so the hangers are likely not big targets. The main focus were buildings which they knew the Imperials would be using, like the barracks. They are also likely targeting anyone and anything in the open. After all, the call to arms was perhaps just a few minutes before the actual bombing.
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Postby Bredtonia » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:37 pm

Just for the purpose of clarity and having everyone on the same page, about how many successful divebombers are we looking at here? Like is it closer to half a dozen, or 3 dozen? And these are the standard bombs right, so strong, but no eathershaker or demolisher shell?
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Postby Saragrossa » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:00 pm

Bredtonia wrote:Just for the purpose of clarity and having everyone on the same page, about how many successful divebombers are we looking at here? Like is it closer to half a dozen, or 3 dozen? And these are the standard bombs right, so strong, but no eathershaker or demolisher shell?



I Think they probably dropped heavy payload bombs. The Fort is still a hardened structure designed to take a beating so I would imagine it would be not so easy to just blow up.
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Postby Bredtonia » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:38 pm

I'm sure that's would have been ideal for them, but by normal 40k lore only Mauraders can carry heavy payload bombs. (technicaly avengers don't use bombs at all, but i'm bypassing that one) I'm just wondering with the OP had in mind.
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Postby Legital » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:12 pm

Bredtonia wrote:I'm sure that's would have been ideal for them, but by normal 40k lore only Mauraders can carry heavy payload bombs. (technicaly avengers don't use bombs at all, but i'm bypassing that one) I'm just wondering with the OP had in mind.


Avengers are ground attack aircraft, that is there specific purpose, so I don't know why you say it would not have bombs to use on ground targets.

And the amount of aircraft is around twenty-five.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:26 pm

Legital wrote:
Bredtonia wrote:I'm sure that's would have been ideal for them, but by normal 40k lore only Mauraders can carry heavy payload bombs. (technicaly avengers don't use bombs at all, but i'm bypassing that one) I'm just wondering with the OP had in mind.


Avengers are ground attack aircraft, that is there specific purpose, so I don't know why you say it would not have bombs to use on ground targets.

And the amount of aircraft is around twenty-five.


I've always thought of Avengers as 40k's version of the Stuka.
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Postby Bredtonia » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:34 pm

Yeah, your right, I dug a bit deeper and found that - it's not part of their standard armerment, but they do have hardpoints to attach bombs or missiles to. I don't have the IA books, so I have to rely on internet sources. Their main armorment is their guns, however, the avenger bolt cannon and a pair of lascannons make them deadly tank & heavy infantry hunters.

Anyway, that's 25 successful right?

P.S. The Avenger's a lot better armed to really be that analogue. That's why I originaly said thunderbolts. Though really, the Imperium just doesn't use anything that fragile/unarmed. (Image)
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Postby Legital » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:16 pm

Bredtonia wrote:Yeah, your right, I dug a bit deeper and found that - it's not part of their standard armerment, but they do have hardpoints to attach bombs or missiles to. I don't have the IA books, so I have to rely on internet sources. Their main armorment is their guns, however, the avenger bolt cannon and a pair of lascannons make them deadly tank & heavy infantry hunters.

Anyway, that's 25 successful right?

P.S. The Avenger's a lot better armed to really be that analogue. That's why I originaly said thunderbolts. Though really, the Imperium just doesn't use anything that fragile/unarmed. (Image)


I can agree to that, certainly. I used Avengers simply because of their ground attack status. I did not enjoy the thought of using heavy Thunderbolts or Lightenings for a ground attack job, but I suppose they can do so as well.

And after doing some calculations, I've determined the number of aircraft.

Five planes to a PDF air squadron, and there are seven squadrons. Two bombs per plane, so that would be a total of seventy bombs. Not all planes will drop their full payloads or any of it at all, so the estimate will be around seventy bombs dropped on the base.
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Postby Bone Fort » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:33 pm

Shouldn't that be less then 70 dropped?
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Postby Legital » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:50 pm

Bone Fort wrote:Shouldn't that be less then 70 dropped?


Yes. I meant to say around less. Well, you know what I mean. I can't calculate exactly, but it will be less than seventy, but not like ten either.
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Postby Bone Fort » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:52 pm

Right.

Also, Saragossa, your post got a little... strange near the end. Looks like you had more but it got cut off or something.
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Postby Saragrossa » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:05 am

Bone Fort wrote:Right.

Also, Saragossa, your post got a little... strange near the end. Looks like you had more but it got cut off or something.


Thanks for the heads up. I was posting on an Iphone and it got cut off. I am going to tweak it.
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Postby Bredtonia » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:19 am

That's a hell of a post for on a phone.
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Postby Saragrossa » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:10 pm

Bredtonia wrote:That's a hell of a post for on a phone.



i am just glad the Html worked out haha. I had a house flood and i lost my laptop and computer so ive been posting on my iphone which isn't too bad if you use widescreen.

Is it much of a stretch to assume that PDf forces would gather at the east entry and amount an assault? I am just striking but i know its a matter of time till we are overwhelmed.
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Postby Bone Fort » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:49 pm

Ah, just taking a shoot in the dark, but you're probably jumping the gun by waaaaaay too far in your post about the PDF attack. It's not up too you to decide what kind of PDF forces make it too the base and were. That's Leg's job.
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Postby Legital » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:55 pm

Saragrossa wrote:
Bredtonia wrote:That's a hell of a post for on a phone.



i am just glad the Html worked out haha. I had a house flood and i lost my laptop and computer so ive been posting on my iphone which isn't too bad if you use widescreen.

Is it much of a stretch to assume that PDf forces would gather at the east entry and amount an assault? I am just striking but i know its a matter of time till we are overwhelmed.


I'm greatly disappointed with your post, and I would appreciate it if you completely redact it. You simply ignored the bombardment essnetially, and decided to march on out and engaged the enemy, which, mind you, is not even attacking yet nor would you know their exact location. There is no firefight happening what so ever, just a bombing of the Imperial base by dive-bombers. I can get more detailed if you wish, but I think you get the picture.

You've been warned once, so this is your second warning. Next time you pull another long stretch like this, I'm going to have to boot you out.

To everyone else, disregard Saragrossa's post for the time being.
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Postby Bone Fort » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:57 pm

Also, a little more detail then "She also personally raced over to the 12th Company's barracks - Die Schwarzen Männer and to inform them to spread the word that Mordians would hold the Eastern entry and that they should link up with them to make sure the defense was adequate."

I have no idea how to respond, as you gave next to no detail of how said meeting went other then the fact that it happened. You can't say a conversation happened, as that would entail you taking control of one of my characters without permission, which is godmodding. You have to set up the meeting, let a conversation take place, not godmod it.
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Postby Norvenia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:48 am

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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:06 pm

Post in progress. May not be up til saturday.
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Postby Morrdh » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:07 pm

Post up by Monday at the latest, been busy with work.
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Postby Legital » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:48 pm

Very well, take your time guys. I'll just wait for a couple of posts before I continue.
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Postby Morrdh » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:11 pm

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Postby Bredtonia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:00 pm

Well that was both longer and later then I anticipated. Oh, Aelosia, feel free to have stuff happen to Bryant if you want. I intentionaly left the effects of the bombing there in your court. Same with Dominic with the Colonal.
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