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Postby Imperial City-States » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:19 pm

Legital wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Sorry about the grammar , The painkillers I'm one cause some problems trying to type and coordinate , ill change my App to reflect changes

And Urban Survival Gear is the same thing as "TUSK" gear (Tank Urban Survival Kit ) it in modern day adds Reactive armor , track guards , rpg cages , remote operated .50 cal machine guns and extra armor over the engine

- In 40k terms it would likely consist of Track Guards , Dozer Blades , Extra armor covering the engine, sides and top (while mostly covering the firing ports ,and making the vehicle several to a heavier ) RPG cages (catch the warhead preventive the shaped charge from burning though the armor ) and Gun Sheilds on the heavy Stubbers


I updated my App , reduced by 145 men and only have 17 Chimeras (only 13 would be full the other 4 would be a command vehicles) and changed their kit to only include a single krak grenade - to my memory they aren't extremely heavy , but are bulky

And changed my Commander -- distracted a Nob Long enough for the wounded marine to kill it


Drop the USG on most of your chimeras, maybe keep them for the command vehicles. And I still am not very happy about a krak grenade per trooper, even for heavy infantry.

Also, we still have seven people who have not voted. I'd like to see the poll be put to decent use, and we're at a tie at the time of this post. It'll be hard to make a post without knowing what time of day it is.




Understood , i will remove the USG on most Chimeras
The reason i had the Krak Grenades in there is via the IG Codex Veterans are standard with Frag and Krak Grenades as well as in the Imperial Uplifters primer ( yes i know its not reliable lol )
i know your worried about it being rather over-powered but the Main drawbacks is in order to even use them i would have to close to point blank distance which when fighting an enemy Armor force is extremely Dangerous meaning that if i ever attempt it i will suffer extreme Casualties
But i will cut them out entirely unless you change your mind on the matter
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Postby Legital » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:06 am

Imperial City-States wrote:
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Drop the USG on most of your chimeras, maybe keep them for the command vehicles. And I still am not very happy about a krak grenade per trooper, even for heavy infantry.

Also, we still have seven people who have not voted. I'd like to see the poll be put to decent use, and we're at a tie at the time of this post. It'll be hard to make a post without knowing what time of day it is.




Understood , i will remove the USG on most Chimeras
The reason i had the Krak Grenades in there is via the IG Codex Veterans are standard with Frag and Krak Grenades as well as in the Imperial Uplifters primer ( yes i know its not reliable lol )
i know your worried about it being rather over-powered but the Main drawbacks is in order to even use them i would have to close to point blank distance which when fighting an enemy Armor force is extremely Dangerous meaning that if i ever attempt it i will suffer extreme Casualties
But i will cut them out entirely unless you change your mind on the matter


I've had an issue brought to me by another player in concerns with there being two Harakoni companies, as it may cause confusion between the two players and everyone else. Namely, as Harakoni is an established planet in lore, not much is detailed which leaves the Harakoni players up to create that lore for the RP. The issue is that conflicting ideas will be established and that it would prove ill for everyone involved. Is it possible to change your company from Harakoni origin to something else? If not, you and our other Harakoni player will need to make sure you won't establish conflicting ideas.

Also, I'm fine with some troopers with krak grenades, not all of them with one. Other than that and the aforementioned, that clears it.



In other news, my post is written and finished. I just want to see what the poll looks like tomorrow before I decide what time to use in my post.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:08 am

I understand your concerns about that , I don't plan on making many comments to Harakon but I will make references to the Hive that some guys grew up in - ill keep in touch with Luna to make sure we don't post conflicting things

I could certainly change it though if you think it will be to much of a Hassle
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Postby Carcharhinidae primari » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:26 am

I may have a post up before midnight CET tonight (about 10 hours from now). If you could wait with your post untill that deadline I'd appreciate it Legital.

EDIT: not going to make it.. trying to write something.. but just completely drained from this week. new deadline for my post, sunday.
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Postby Legital » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:13 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:I understand your concerns about that , I don't plan on making many comments to Harakon but I will make references to the Hive that some guys grew up in - ill keep in touch with Luna to make sure we don't post conflicting things

I could certainly change it though if you think it will be to much of a Hassle


Changing it may be for the best, so sorry for the bother about that.

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:I may have a post up before midnight CET tonight (about 10 hours from now). If you could wait with your post untill that deadline I'd appreciate it Legital.

EDIT: not going to make it.. trying to write something.. but just completely drained from this week. new deadline for my post, sunday.


Well, I won't quite be waiting until Sunday, so I'm afraid you'll just have to catch up in your next post.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:50 pm

Legital wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:I understand your concerns about that , I don't plan on making many comments to Harakon but I will make references to the Hive that some guys grew up in - ill keep in touch with Luna to make sure we don't post conflicting things

I could certainly change it though if you think it will be to much of a Hassle


Changing it may be for the best, so sorry for the bother about that.

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:I may have a post up before midnight CET tonight (about 10 hours from now). If you could wait with your post untill that deadline I'd appreciate it Legital.

EDIT: not going to make it.. trying to write something.. but just completely drained from this week. new deadline for my post, sunday.


Well, I won't quite be waiting until Sunday, so I'm afraid you'll just have to catch up in your next post.



Updated my app standing by for your approval
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Postby Saragrossa » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:16 pm

Legital wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:


Understood , i will remove the USG on most Chimeras
The reason i had the Krak Grenades in there is via the IG Codex Veterans are standard with Frag and Krak Grenades as well as in the Imperial Uplifters primer ( yes i know its not reliable lol )
i know your worried about it being rather over-powered but the Main drawbacks is in order to even use them i would have to close to point blank distance which when fighting an enemy Armor force is extremely Dangerous meaning that if i ever attempt it i will suffer extreme Casualties
But i will cut them out entirely unless you change your mind on the matter


I've had an issue brought to me by another player in concerns with there being two Harakoni companies, as it may cause confusion between the two players and everyone else. Namely, as Harakoni is an established planet in lore, not much is detailed which leaves the Harakoni players up to create that lore for the RP. The issue is that conflicting ideas will be established and that it would prove ill for everyone involved. Is it possible to change your company from Harakoni origin to something else? If not, you and our other Harakoni player will need to make sure you won't establish conflicting ideas.

Also, I'm fine with some troopers with krak grenades, not all of them with one. Other than that and the aforementioned, that clears it.



In other news, my post is written and finished. I just want to see what the poll looks like tomorrow before I decide what time to use in my post.


OP, I thought Frag grenades are standard pay out like frag grenades for soldiers now adays. Krak grenades i can understand but basic frags shouldn't be an issue?
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:37 pm

Many of us (myself included) have listed frag grenades for all our infantry. They are standard equipment for guardsmen, along with the lasgun and flak armor. Some particularly equipment poor regiments might not provide them, but that's unusual.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:39 pm

Bredtonia wrote:Many of us (myself included) have listed frag grenades for all our infantry. They are standard equipment for guardsmen, along with the lasgun and flak armor. Some particularly equipment poor regiments might not provide them, but that's unusual.


Or regiments that recieve minimal resupplies like the Hakaroni.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:41 pm

True. Regiments that get on the wrong side of the munitorum also qualify.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:53 pm

Frag grenades are a standard issue item for the guard , even Whitesheilds are issued them , alot of it depends on how supply lines look
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Postby Morrdh » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:56 pm

Bredtonia wrote:True. Regiments that get on the wrong side of the munitorum also qualify.


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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:15 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Frag grenades are a standard issue item for the guard , even Whitesheilds are issued them , alot of it depends on how supply lines look


Of course, I don't have any whiteshields left, those got taken for the other regiment. That's how you know your getting a dead-end posting. They take your kids and say "we don't think your regiments going to be around long enough for them to make it to guardsmen".
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Postby Imperial City-States » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:19 pm

Bredtonia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Frag grenades are a standard issue item for the guard , even Whitesheilds are issued them , alot of it depends on how supply lines look


Of course, I don't have any whiteshields left, those got taken for the other regiment. That's how you know your getting a dead-end posting. They take your kids and say "we don't think your regiments going to be around long enough for them to make it to guardsmen".



True ... fair enough though
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Postby Legital » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:41 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Legital wrote:
Changing it may be for the best, so sorry for the bother about that.



Well, I won't quite be waiting until Sunday, so I'm afraid you'll just have to catch up in your next post.



Updated my app standing by for your approval


Now I just find it an odd thing about having an Arcadian company on a planet called Pan Arcadia. I hate to keep you having to change things, but it just seems off even though I know both are separate.

Saragrossa wrote:
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I've had an issue brought to me by another player in concerns with there being two Harakoni companies, as it may cause confusion between the two players and everyone else. Namely, as Harakoni is an established planet in lore, not much is detailed which leaves the Harakoni players up to create that lore for the RP. The issue is that conflicting ideas will be established and that it would prove ill for everyone involved. Is it possible to change your company from Harakoni origin to something else? If not, you and our other Harakoni player will need to make sure you won't establish conflicting ideas.

Also, I'm fine with some troopers with krak grenades, not all of them with one. Other than that and the aforementioned, that clears it.



In other news, my post is written and finished. I just want to see what the poll looks like tomorrow before I decide what time to use in my post.


OP, I thought Frag grenades are standard pay out like frag grenades for soldiers now adays. Krak grenades i can understand but basic frags shouldn't be an issue?


I'm not sure what you are talking about. What about Frag grenades?



Alright, anyways, my post is up. I intended to end the poll at midnight tonight but my post did not go up until a bit after that so the poll was up a bit longer. If you missed the final tally, morning stood at nine votes and evening was at three (guess some people changed their vote).
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Postby Carcharhinidae primari » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:46 am

Legital wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:I understand your concerns about that , I don't plan on making many comments to Harakon but I will make references to the Hive that some guys grew up in - ill keep in touch with Luna to make sure we don't post conflicting things

I could certainly change it though if you think it will be to much of a Hassle


Changing it may be for the best, so sorry for the bother about that.

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:I may have a post up before midnight CET tonight (about 10 hours from now). If you could wait with your post untill that deadline I'd appreciate it Legital.

EDIT: not going to make it.. trying to write something.. but just completely drained from this week. new deadline for my post, sunday.


Well, I won't quite be waiting until Sunday, so I'm afraid you'll just have to catch up in your next post.


I sort of meant that as a 'go ahead and post. start complaining if I haven't posted by sunday night'
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:20 am

@Leigate

Updated again ... Valkarian this time
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Postby Norvenia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:30 am

Saragossa: couple of questions. When you say Segmentians, do you mean Sacristans? If so, the Rangers are going to be furious about the Mordians, who are from a hive world and not wilderness-trained, messing up their stealth. In fact, they are doing so already, since open vox messages can be received by anybody - including the PDF.

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Postby Morrdh » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:32 am

Minor change to the Morridanes, basing them more on the British 14th Army and so kinda like this.

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Postby Saragrossa » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:56 am

Norvenia wrote:Saragossa: couple of questions. When you say Segmentians, do you mean Sacristans? If so, the Rangers are going to be furious about the Mordians, who are from a hive world and not wilderness-trained, messing up their stealth. In fact, they are doing so already, since open vox messages can be received by anybody - including the PDF.


Well, no one knows about the PDF thats advancing.

I edited the post so we're just training outside. We sent out a message which is open to everyone not specifically you and not addressing you, to let you know that we are outside.
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Postby Norvenia » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:59 am

Saragrossa wrote:
Norvenia wrote:Saragossa: couple of questions. When you say Segmentians, do you mean Sacristans? If so, the Rangers are going to be furious about the Mordians, who are from a hive world and not wilderness-trained, messing up their stealth. In fact, they are doing so already, since open vox messages can be received by anybody - including the PDF.


Well, no one knows about the PDF thats advancing.


Quite true. I'm not advising you to change the post (except the names mix-up), just saying that the Sacristans are probably going to catch hell when the Mordians blow their concealment.

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Postby Legital » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:09 pm

Saragrossa, I am extremely unhappy about your post.

You say 'night' drills over and over. There was a poll up for almost five days about voting on the time of day, which won at morning. I even posted that here in the OOC saying morning won.

You also called the Sacristan's Segmentians over and over. Also, how did they even know that the Sacristans were outside?

Now, you also just decided to march your entire company into the woods for training. To be honest, that almost reeks of metagaming to me. You know the attack is coming...so lets coincidentally move ourselves to the enemy.

About the immediate above, this reminds me of the disaster that happened in episode one, which I bet some of us remember. It was not pretty at all.

So at that, please adjust your post accordingly and consider this your first and final warning. Just please make sure you read everything very carefully.


Thank you for fixing the problems, Saragrossa.

Imperial City-States wrote:@Legital

Updated again ... Valkarian this time


You still seem to have a mix of the Arcadian company mixed in with your current edit. You might want to fully look over your application and make sure everything is right.
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Still waiting on some people to post. I also may look into a couple players who have not been active really at all and look to having them removed for others.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:04 pm

@Leg. ---
Saw what you were talkin about and fixed it , hard to do edits from ones phone sorry
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Postby Bredtonia » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:42 pm

My post will be up on Monday, if I can't manage tonight. Here's hopeing for our survival :)
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