W40K In Service to the Imperium: Episode 5 (OOC/OPEN/Reboot)

[Aelosia]

I presume you have source for commissars bellow the rank of colonel commissar to be able to elect themselves to high command ranks in the imperial guard and leapfrog the entire chain of command? I can't find anything. *scratches head*

Otherwise he would be on the staff as captain commissar. If for example a general staff was all but wiped out and the highest rank left was a colonel that colonel would not automatically become a Lord General. He would need to be promoted. A general staff is created when people high up in the chain of command appoint a General or above to command a campaign, the general then picks his staff. Ordinary Commissars can't elect themselves to such lofty positions. That would just be insane.

(Leaving aside all the other things required to even get to that position in the first place. I can't recall hearing of any of those steps before nor can I find any evidence from searches that even hints at the possibility.)

When an army is created, the Munitorium may appoint anyone, even one of their own members or someone who's never served a form of armed service in their life, to the general counsel. The rank of Generals and above are never promotions, only appointments, and always temporary. It's a funny, strange, and civilian-oversighty way of doing thing, but they appoint people to General, rather than appointing people who are already generals.

As Aelosia said, it's a huge paperwork pile, but it's an entirely legal one. Of course, as also noted, there's plenty of examples of them "filling in" on the chain of command when an officer is lost (usually to the commissars own bolt, but hey). The lore is unspecific, but I feel one could assume they're allowed to do so even when they didn't do the execution. As we have no source of replacement officers, he has a valid reason to keep it until such time additional officers can be found. As the highest ranking and most senior commissar, it's most logical for him to fill in the highest missing officer position. In which case he'd be "Acting-Colonel Captain-Commissar Amsel".

Nods*

Now you go and check the side quest thread, please. We need Shiloh

[Imperial City-States]

I think it can be done legally, but I'm not certain if all the lore agrees on that. really should read the gaunt's ghosts series at some point, maybe that one gives a better image of it.

also, ICS, I'm going to react a little to your vehicles, which I assume to have an urban camo pattern. If I'm wrong in this, I'll modify the post or remove the reaction outright.

You're correct , as i'm primarily an urban warfare unit we do indeed have Urban camouflage


Also , when people are of equivalent ranks they are by no means obligated to follow orders from officers of the same rank. Klaus is technically a Captain in the 82nd Vakarian Heavy Infantry Regiment The Unit is simply down to a Company Size. As he's the highest ranking officer within his Regiment he's technically a Regimental officer and is not obligated to respond to orders from another Regimental officer.


But we'll see how this rolls out.

[Carcharhinidae primari]

ICS, I'm pretty sure you could hear the mortar shells and impacts from the west trenches where you are. that sound'll carry quite a distance I'd guess?

[Imperial City-States]

ICS, I'm pretty sure you could hear the mortar shells and impacts from the west trenches where you are. that sound'll carry quite a distance I'd guess?

Oh so there is actually an engagement with hostile PDF forces ?

[Carcharhinidae primari]

ICS, I'm pretty sure you could hear the mortar shells and impacts from the west trenches where you are. that sound'll carry quite a distance I'd guess?

Oh so there is actually an engagement with hostile PDF forces ?

yes. they were following another group of stragglers, and ran into our western trenches. they're currently taking cover by the treeline in a few outlying bunker-ish structures while a number of companies have units in the trenches just outside the gate. including 3 of my hellhounds. not the ones you've already spotted though.

rockets are flying at us while we're bombarding them with mortars and a number of heavy stubbers I think. that's a regimental we, not a hellhound me.

[Imperial City-States]

Oh so there is actually an engagement with hostile PDF forces ?

yes. they were following another group of stragglers, and ran into our western trenches. they're currently taking cover by the treeline in a few outlying bunker-ish structures while a number of companies have units in the trenches just outside the gate. including 3 of my hellhounds. not the ones you've already spotted though.

Oh , i was under the impression that the Major was bluffing , we can attribute it to Klaus being inside a Chimera with the loud engine/helmet blocking noise . will edit my IC post

[Great Houses of Xie]

Hm, well, if the Vakarians are already only a kilometer away from the Fort, I suppose I should have my ground-pounders inside the Fort, already.

[Bredtonia]

I feel it's also worth noting that in the culture of ignorance that is the Imperium of Man, the only ones who actualy know the limits of a commissar's athority are probably the commissars themselves and maybe a handful of Aelosa's officer girls who I can never spell, due to their Scholia education.

For my own end, given Armeggedon's history with Commissars, Dominic's going to follow what ever Amsel says reguardless.

Also, yeah Xie, you might as well, unless you want us to just pick you up on the way.

[Imperial City-States]

Well it still adds an interesting aspect regardless , now hopefully i can get out of this situation without having a firefight

[Bredtonia]

I hope so to. Or at least without a firefight with us.

[Cymrea]

I'm gonna start reading the eight pages of IC while my troop transport awaits landing authorisation from Arcadian High Command.

[Bredtonia]

I'm gonna start reading the eight pages of IC while my troop transport awaits landing authorisation from Arcadian High Command.

Oh.... Your going to be waiting a long time.
(There is no Arcadian High Command any more )

[Cymrea]

Understood. I'll settle for application authorisation from Legital.

[Carcharhinidae primari]

Bred, let's give Xie a chance to post before we've hijacked his vendettas and all the fuel.

[Bredtonia]

Why when we can hijack the vendettas, the fuel and the thread?v

Really I just wanted to give him a conversation to respond to and a reason for us to have fuel for him to use later on in the mission.

[Carcharhinidae primari]

ah, I'll admit I was just looking for something to mix into the flamer fuel.

[Aelosia]

I am bored and looking for a way to update my ORBAT

And yet I managed to forgot the Aquila Lander there. Sigh

[Morrdh]

As the highest ranking and most senior commissar, it's most logical for him to fill in the highest missing officer position. In which case he'd be "Acting-Colonel Captain-Commissar Amsel".

Was going to say that Acting Colonel Commissar would probably work.

[Legital]

Right, well, I do hope the brevet situation is now under control with Aelosia's insight. As mentioned, Amsel is not appointing himself. My post has him taking the proper steps for the situation when it's up.

As for the side quest RP, I've not checked in recently as it has been lately hard enough to check in here and post but with school coming to an end (sadly have summer school because I missed a course when I was out for surgery for a semester) I will be able to be here much more again. The summer school thing is of little issue, since it won't be finals for that one course until early-mid July anyways.

[The Nihilistic view]

Right, well, I do hope the brevet situation is now under control with Aelosia's insight. As mentioned, Amsel is not appointing himself. My post has him taking the proper steps for the situation when it's up.

As for the side quest RP, I've not checked in recently as it has been lately hard enough to check in here and post but with school coming to an end (sadly have summer school because I missed a course when I was out for surgery for a semester) I will be able to be here much more again. The summer school thing is of little issue, since it won't be finals for that one course until early-mid July anyways.

There is a side RP?

[Carcharhinidae primari]

Right, well, I do hope the brevet situation is now under control with Aelosia's insight. As mentioned, Amsel is not appointing himself. My post has him taking the proper steps for the situation when it's up.

As for the side quest RP, I've not checked in recently as it has been lately hard enough to check in here and post but with school coming to an end (sadly have summer school because I missed a course when I was out for surgery for a semester) I will be able to be here much more again. The summer school thing is of little issue, since it won't be finals for that one course until early-mid July anyways.

There is a side RP?

it's... already underway. a covert mission to get physical access to a data port. so we can get all theinformation that's not being fried by some kind of vox-taint.

[The Nihilistic view]

There is a side RP?

it's... already underway. a covert mission to get physical access to a data port. so we can get all theinformation that's not being fried by some kind of vox-taint.

Oh, not seen anything of that.

[Carcharhinidae primari]

it was mentioned in general officer's assembly and quite quickly ended up in a seperate thread.

[The Nihilistic view]

it was mentioned in general officer's assembly and quite quickly ended up in a seperate thread.

I did not know that had resulted in anything. Maybe I need to dig through this OOC thread too, might have missed stuff not in the IC thread.

[Carcharhinidae primari]

it was mentioned in general officer's assembly and quite quickly ended up in a seperate thread.

I did not know that had resulted in anything. Maybe I need to dig through this OOC thread too, might have missed stuff not in the IC thread.

hrmm? it doesn't have a result yet, it just got underway.