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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:03 am

Bone Fort wrote:And you can make them as easily as lying down a sheet of shield.

Maybe just put a wooden board on two steel pipes to reduce friction.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:59 am

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Bone Fort wrote:Sleds can be dragged across anything if you pull hard enough, it's merely easier on snow.


You don't think pulling them across hard rocky mountainous terrain will destroy them in short order? Secondly you are making them yourselves with about an hour of time put into them. They won't be the universes strongest sledges ever by a long way.


I, personally, was thinking we'd be using the road - at least to get down the mountain. Sled on road is noisy but fairly safe. By the descriptions we couldn't get the vehicles through the forest on the mountain side anyway. When it comes to Chimeras, Trailers and other such space, what it's really going to come down to is: at what point does equipment become more valuable than men. Also, men who will never recover to fighting condition should, probibly, be given the emperors mercy.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:05 am

Also, it depends on how many wounded. Part of what Der Swharze Mann is going to talk to Amsel about concerns the wounded.

Also, we can stick them in the Chimeras, we have a lot of those. Non wounded can walk, their legs still function.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:13 am

Which is partly why it comes down to how much equipment we have to carry. Its also worth noting some of the larger companies with intrinsic vehicles, like the logistics gals, may have trailers already. They're pretty standard issue.

The only reason I mention unrecoverable wounded is because of potentially limited food & medical supplies, as well as the desperate and wounded are more likely targets of corruption.
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Bredtonia wrote:Which is partly why it comes down to how much equipment we have to carry. Its also worth noting some of the larger companies with intrinsic vehicles, like the logistics gals, may have trailers already. They're pretty standard issue.

The only reason I mention unrecoverable wounded is because of potentially limited food & medical supplies, as well as the desperate and wounded are more likely targets of corruption.

but how much would the blow to morale be if the men realized if they got badly injured they'd be killed off.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:54 am

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:
Bredtonia wrote:Which is partly why it comes down to how much equipment we have to carry. Its also worth noting some of the larger companies with intrinsic vehicles, like the logistics gals, may have trailers already. They're pretty standard issue.

The only reason I mention unrecoverable wounded is because of potentially limited food & medical supplies, as well as the desperate and wounded are more likely targets of corruption.

but how much would the blow to morale be if the men realized if they got badly injured they'd be killed off.


Commissars don't usually care about moral.
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Postby Carcharhinidae primari » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:56 am

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Carcharhinidae primari wrote:but how much would the blow to morale be if the men realized if they got badly injured they'd be killed off.


Commissars don't usually care about moral.

they should. it's their job.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:05 am

Granted, their approach to morale problems may not be the best...

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:37 am

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:
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Commissars don't usually care about moral.

they should. it's their job.

This. Maintaining morale and faith in the Emperor is pretty much the reason they shoot their own men in the first place.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:25 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Carcharhinidae primari wrote:they should. it's their job.

This. Maintaining morale and faith in the Emperor fighting corruption is pretty much the reason they shoot their own men in the first place.

Corrected. :P Faith is the Missionary's job. As they're doing here, Commissars also handle inter-regiment conflicts, particularly if they're from different worlds. They may also act to oversee progress and prevent commanders from being overly cautious.
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Bredtonia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:This. Maintaining morale and faith in the Emperor fighting corruption is pretty much the reason they shoot their own men in the first place.

Corrected. :P Faith is the Missionary's job. As they're doing here, Commissars also handle inter-regiment conflicts, particularly if they're from different worlds. They may also act to oversee progress and prevent commanders from being overly cautious.

Corruption is lacking faith in the emperor.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Bredtonia wrote:Corrected. :P Faith is the Missionary's job. As they're doing here, Commissars also handle inter-regiment conflicts, particularly if they're from different worlds. They may also act to oversee progress and prevent commanders from being overly cautious.

Corruption is lacking faith in the emperor.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:54 pm

Carcharhinidae primari wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Corruption is lacking faith in the emperor.

all hail the machine god!

Which is an aspect of the Emperor. Besides, that's the Admech; doublethink is mandatory when discussing them in the Imperium.
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Postby Carcharhinidae primari » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:01 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Carcharhinidae primari wrote:all hail the machine god!

Which is an aspect of the Emperor. Besides, that's the Admech; doublethink is mandatory when discussing them in the Imperium.
according to the cult mechanicus the emperor is an avatar of the machine god.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:16 pm

The Emperor as the Omnissiah - the mythical human who could understand all things; truly possess all knowledge. Though the cult of the Omnissiah has diminished over the years, with most Mechanicum only offering token religious observance to the Emperor. Though I've heard of some who apply him pantheonic next to the machine god. (God of flesh, god of steel, as it were.)

The Mechanicum isn't nearly as religiously orthodox/unified as the Imperial Cult is, and that's saying something.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:44 pm

Bredtonia wrote:The Emperor as the Omnissiah - the mythical human who could understand all things; truly possess all knowledge. Though the cult of the Omnissiah has diminished over the years, with most Mechanicum only offering token religious observance to the Emperor. Though I've heard of some who apply him pantheonic next to the machine god. (God of flesh, god of steel, as it were.)

The Mechanicum isn't nearly as religiously orthodox/unified as the Imperial Cult is, and that's saying something.

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Which is an aspect of the Emperor. Besides, that's the Admech; doublethink is mandatory when discussing them in the Imperium.
according to the cult mechanicus the emperor is an avatar of the machine god.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:36 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Carcharhinidae primari wrote:they should. it's their job.

This. Maintaining morale and faith in the Emperor is pretty much the reason they shoot their own men in the first place.


It's also why they find themselves on the end of tank shells............ ;)
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:42 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:This. Maintaining morale and faith in the Emperor is pretty much the reason they shoot their own men in the first place.


It's also why they find themselves on the end of tank shells............ ;)

Not all of them, just my commissars. After all, commissars who are excessively trigger-happy don't stick around for long.
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Postby Legital » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:08 pm

Will have a post up possibly tonight. Keep in mind: You have under an hour ICly to put together what you can, be it sleds or carts, though I will say that is probably not going be possible or efficient. Snow has yet to come, but it will.

Tally up your wounded, walking wounded, fit, and vehicles. See who will be walking or riding. I can assure you, most of the Higarans will be walking, even if I shoved a bunch into the centaurs I have.
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Postby Bredtonia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:33 pm

Well, for me it depends what my move-out orders are. I've only got 7 surviving wounded and more than enough chimera space for them. If were ordered to recon/screen then I'll be completely mounted, but could squeeze maybe a dozen or more additional injured in the spares. If I need to carry some regiment equipment that can't be strapped to the top of the chimeras, that number diminishes. If I (or at least some of the company) is ordered to move with the main regimental march, then that's a solid 4 chimeras per platoon that could carry wounded or equipment instead of their normal squad.

So, I'll need orders before I finalize.
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Postby Drakulstan » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:51 pm

Two minor wounded, two serious this far. Will have one serious die as a result of complexities via surgery. The other will require an augmetic. Also have a stubber gunner in need of augmetic eardrums. :P

In terms of carrying stuff, the 95th will be walking like they usually do. Of the two Chimeras captured by my company, one will be used as a battlefield ambulance and the other as a munitions carrier (willing to trade it for a Trojan if pressed though).

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:13 am

I only have about twenty wounded, and plenty of room in the few chimeras I have.
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Postby Carcharhinidae primari » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:57 am

6 heavily wounded, no chimeras. well. not unless we get some to drive from those captured during the enemy raid.
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Postby Aelosia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:39 pm

A dozen non-walking wounded, ten of them medical personnel, actually, from the combat there. One the mechanic lieutenant with the face erased and the other a gunner.
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Postby Morrdh » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:06 pm

At least a platoon out of action (dead or wounded), though in the process of 'liberating' whatever cargo trucks the base has.
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