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430 BC: An Era of War (Peloponnesian War RP, OOC, Open!)

Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:09 pm

The Peloponnesian War reshaped the ancient Greek world. On the level of international relations, Athens, the strongest city-state in Greece prior to the war's beginning, was reduced to a state of near-complete subjection, while Sparta became established as the leading power of Greece. The economic costs of the war were felt all across Greece; poverty became widespread in the Peloponnese, while Athens found itself completely devastated, and never regained its pre-war prosperity. The war also wrought subtler changes to Greek society; the conflict between democratic Athens and oligarchic Sparta, each of which supported friendly political factions within other states, made civil war a common occurrence in the Greek world.

The fires of war have blazed long and furiously throughout human history, and now engulf the Greek Peninsula. The Peloponnesian War ravaged the Hellenic city-states for nearly 30 years, bringing forth many changes to Ancient Greece. You will lead your state for the glory of your faction, the Delian League or the Peloponnesian League. Or, if you'd rather, disregard your allies and attempt to conquer Greece in your name. Your actions will change the Greek world, and your story will fill the history books.



This is an RP based on the Peloponnesian War, a war between two groups of Hellenic city-states: The Delian League and the Peloponnesian League. You can apply for any city-state that existed at the time. You will start out in whichever league your city-state was part of, but over the course of this RP, you can make or break alliances and attempt to unify Greece under your banner.

Rules:

No one-liners please

Don't be a dick

Listen to the OP or Co-op

Use common sense




OP: The Nation of Hay
Co-Op: Alleniana, G-Tech

If you really want to be a Co-Op, TG me, and I'll consider it.

Map 1: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ft0w8z0c1rsqq ... nk_Sea.png

Map 2 (WIP): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/900 ... Athens.png

Accepted Players:

Neutral:
G-Tech, Persia, Light Blue
The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes, Syracuse, Brown
Emilio Aguinaldo, Rome, Dark Blue
Seljuq Kyiv, Argos, Olive
New Aksarben, Neapolis, Light Green
Bujahla, Kydonia, Black
Hydrichastan, Macedonia, Light Blue-Green
Forty Twoania, Milos, Dark Green
Imperial Canadian Duchy, Heraklion, Dark Gray
Alouite, Samnium, Dark Blue
Quirina, Carthage, Aubergine
Themiclesia, Aigio, Meringue

Peloponnesian League
Reatra, Sparta, Green
Hay, Corinth, Yellow
Puerto Tyranus, Thebes, Lavender
Jamessonia, Patras, Maroon
Uragarr, Tarentum, Orange
Adurnak, Kingdom of Thesprotia, Grayish-Blue

Delian League
OPEN, Athens, Red
Alleniana, Byzantion, Pink
Paketo, Rhodes, Purple
Aeken, Odrysian Kingdom, Dark Blue-Green
Miracum-Izmir, Ephesus, Bright Pink
Kryskov, Eretria, Beige
The Milvian States, Santorini, Light Gray

Reserved:

App:

City-State:
Government:
Population:
Military Size (3%-10% of Population):
Alliance:

City-State: Corinth
Government: Oligarchy
Population: ~100,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 7,000 men, 75 Warships
Alliance: The Peloponnesian League


This RP is associated with the Historical RP Group, check it out!
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=262570

IC: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=269023
Battles: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=269024

The IC is up! Post battles in the battles thread!
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Postby The Wacha » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:27 pm

App:

City-State: The Empire of Crete
Ruler: Αντώνιος ο Μέγας
Government: Empire
Population: 15,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 7,000
Anything Else? nope I'm in you history RP group if that helps

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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:29 pm

Hm...
Reserve Byzantium, and shouldn't Persia be played by OP? I think that would be best

App:

City-State: Byzantion
Government: Kingdom, I think
Population: No idea, can I guess 100,000, inc. slaves?
Military Size: Eh... 5%, so
Alliance: Historically allied with Athens
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:30 pm

The Wacha wrote:App:

City-State: The Empire of Crete
Ruler: Αντώνιος ο Μέγας
Government: Empire
Population: 15,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 7,000
Anything Else? nope I'm in you history RP group if that helps


Military size is a little huge...

Alleniana wrote:Hm...
Reserve Byzantium, and shouldn't Persia be played by OP? I think that would be best


I'll reserve Byzantium for you, and maybe I'll just make G-Tech a Co-Op :P
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:32 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
The Wacha wrote:App:

City-State: The Empire of Crete
Ruler: Αντώνιος ο Μέγας
Government: Empire
Population: 15,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 7,000
Anything Else? nope I'm in you history RP group if that helps


Military size is a little huge...

Alleniana wrote:Hm...
Reserve Byzantium, and shouldn't Persia be played by OP? I think that would be best


I'll reserve Byzantium for you, and maybe I'll just make G-Tech a Co-Op :P

Oh, that's another way to do it :p

My app is done

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Postby Angle Empire » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:36 pm

City-State: Athens
Ruler: Alcibiades
Government: Democracy
Population: 150,000 Athenians. 100,000 Slaves.
Military Size: 2% peacetime. 5% wartime
Anything Else: Large fleet of Triemes.

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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:39 pm

Angle Empire wrote:City-State: Athens
Ruler: Alcibiades
Government: Democracy
Population: 150,000 Athenians. 100,000 Slaves.
Military Size: 2% peacetime. 5% wartime
Anything Else: Large fleet of Triemes.

Athens actualy had about 40,000 Athenian citizens (only males) and a total pop of about 400,000

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Postby Paketo » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:50 pm

City-State:Ialysos
Government: Athenian Democracy
Population: 2,500
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 100
Alliance: Delian League

The City state is located on Northern Rhodes
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Postby The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:51 pm

App! On mobile and a tad tardy with this app's numbers. They're sort of adapted from a previous Syracuse app I made.

City-State: Syracuse
Government: Benevolent tyranny?
Population: 200,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 4,000 regulars and cavalry, up to 20,000 hoplite citizen-soldiers if needed
Alliance: Neutral
Anything Else? A mercantile, artistic hub; Magna Graecia's foremost artisan/trade city.
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:00 pm

Paketo wrote:City-State:Ialysos
Government: Athenian Democracy
Population: 2,500
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 100
Alliance: Delian League

The City state is located on Northern Rhodes


Accepted!

The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:App! On mobile and a tad tardy with this app's numbers. They're sort of adapted from a previous Syracuse app I made.

City-State: Syracuse
Government: Benevolent tyranny?
Population: 200,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 4,000 regulars and cavalry, up to 20,000 hoplite citizen-soldiers if needed
Alliance: Neutral
Anything Else? A mercantile, artistic hub; Magna Graecia's foremost artisan/trade city.


Also accepted!
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Postby Puerto Tyranus » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:11 pm

App:

City-State: Thebes
Government: Oligarchy
Population: 12,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 720 (6%)
Alliance: Peloponnesian League

How's this?
.
.
.
It feels...bare bones to me.
"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-Commander William Adama
I'm Roman Catholic, so there's that. If you have any questions about what Roman Catholicism really does, I guess I can help. You should probably go to a priest to ask, but I know some things.
Total Population: 1,103,000,000
Criminals: 49,954,494
Elderly, Disabled, & Retirees: 144,083,650
Military & Reserves: 110,182,685
Students and Youth: 195,506,750
Unemployed but Able: 121,075,077
Working Class: 482,197,344
Defcon: 3

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Postby Paketo » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:11 pm

I am the small city state that will grow and grow and then conquer you all :p
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:12 pm

Pop figures:

Athens City: 400,000 or so
Athens: 750,000 or so?
All Sicily: 750,000 about
Syracuse: 125,000
total all greece; about 10 mil

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Postby Puerto Tyranus » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:14 pm

Well I have a phalanx of hoplites formed completely of homosexual partners so that if one dies the other will go bat-sh*t insane and berserker rage against the enemy...which allowed me to defeat Sparta in the Battle of Leuctra...all of which is totally historically accurate I do believe...
"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-Commander William Adama
I'm Roman Catholic, so there's that. If you have any questions about what Roman Catholicism really does, I guess I can help. You should probably go to a priest to ask, but I know some things.
Total Population: 1,103,000,000
Criminals: 49,954,494
Elderly, Disabled, & Retirees: 144,083,650
Military & Reserves: 110,182,685
Students and Youth: 195,506,750
Unemployed but Able: 121,075,077
Working Class: 482,197,344
Defcon: 3

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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:16 pm

Puerto Tyranus wrote:Well I have a phalanx of hoplites formed completely of homosexual partners so that if one dies the other will go bat-sh*t insane and berserker rage against the enemy...which allowed me to defeat Sparta in the Battle of Leuctra...all of which is totally historically accurate I do believe...

:lol2:

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Postby Puerto Tyranus » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:17 pm

:eyebrow:
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.
It's true.
"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-Commander William Adama
I'm Roman Catholic, so there's that. If you have any questions about what Roman Catholicism really does, I guess I can help. You should probably go to a priest to ask, but I know some things.
Total Population: 1,103,000,000
Criminals: 49,954,494
Elderly, Disabled, & Retirees: 144,083,650
Military & Reserves: 110,182,685
Students and Youth: 195,506,750
Unemployed but Able: 121,075,077
Working Class: 482,197,344
Defcon: 3

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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:17 pm

Puerto Tyranus wrote:App:

City-State: Thebes
Government: Oligarchy
Population: 12,000
Military Size (3%-10% of Population): 720 (6%)
Alliance: Peloponnesian League

How's this?
.
.
.
It feels...bare bones to me.


Yeah, I know how you feel, but I couldn't really think of anything else to add...

Also, accepted.
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Postby Puerto Tyranus » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:24 pm

Yay!

Edit: Crap! No one liners! AHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
-Commander William Adama
I'm Roman Catholic, so there's that. If you have any questions about what Roman Catholicism really does, I guess I can help. You should probably go to a priest to ask, but I know some things.
Total Population: 1,103,000,000
Criminals: 49,954,494
Elderly, Disabled, & Retirees: 144,083,650
Military & Reserves: 110,182,685
Students and Youth: 195,506,750
Unemployed but Able: 121,075,077
Working Class: 482,197,344
Defcon: 3

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Postby The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:28 pm

Oh yes, I'd also like to enthusiastically volunteer as map maker (if you're okay with maps that look like this). The borders on the current map simply look too big.
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:33 pm

The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:Oh yes, I'd also like to enthusiastically volunteer as map maker (if you're okay with maps that look like this). The borders on the current map simply look too big.

Damn good!

Though Byzantion owns Chalcedon

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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:37 pm

The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:Oh yes, I'd also like to enthusiastically volunteer as map maker (if you're okay with maps that look like this). The borders on the current map simply look too big.


That does look pretty good... Do you think you could do the colors by team? And maybe take off some of the cities...
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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:40 pm

I do prefer to use the Vicky 2 maps though, because it's a lot easier to see things
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:41 pm

The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:Oh yes, I'd also like to enthusiastically volunteer as map maker (if you're okay with maps that look like this). The borders on the current map simply look too big.

Actually, do you mind making any other maps?

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Postby The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:58 pm

The Nation of Hay wrote:
The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:Oh yes, I'd also like to enthusiastically volunteer as map maker (if you're okay with maps that look like this). The borders on the current map simply look too big.


That does look pretty good... Do you think you could do the colors by team? And maybe take off some of the cities...

That's actually the map for my (as yet unlaunched) 280 BC RP. Am intending to do a scaled down version for this RP- I was really just asking if you minded the map style.

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Postby The Nation of Hay » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:00 pm

The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes wrote:That's actually the map for my (as yet unlaunched) 280 BC RP. Am intending to do a scaled down version for this RP- I was really just asking if you minded the map style.


No, I don't mind at all. In fact, I think it looks great.
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