Postapocalyptia -- Heavy Metal Thunder (OOC; Open)

[Neo Arcad]

There used to be a pic on the front page. From what I remember, It looked like a CV-90 or a variation of such.

Not the original image, but something close.

Yep, Lucy's a CV90 in space. The pic I used was of a US Army trial model, from before they made the dumbass decision not to adopt the world's best IFV.

These days, if you want to find a picture of a Western vehicle in desert camo, you gotta use a US one.

Not true.
http://defense-update.com/Images_new3/cv9035desert.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ehicle.jpg
http://www.outflankers.com/wp-content/u ... _fahd3.jpg
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/i ... P-1_lg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 9/BTR3.jpg

The secret to finding pictures of desert camo CV90s is to simply look for Norwegian ones. The Norwegian Army's only use of the vehicles so far has been in Afghanistan, and they're all painted desert for that deployment.

[Ayreonia]

Yep, Lucy's a CV90 in space. The pic I used was of a US Army trial model, from before they made the dumbass decision not to adopt the world's best IFV.

These days, if you want to find a picture of a Western vehicle in desert camo, you gotta use a US one.

Not true.
http://defense-update.com/Images_new3/cv9035desert.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ehicle.jpg
http://www.outflankers.com/wp-content/u ... _fahd3.jpg
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/i ... P-1_lg.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 9/BTR3.jpg

The secret to finding pictures of desert camo CV90s is to simply look for Norwegian ones. The Norwegian Army's only use of the vehicles so far has been in Afghanistan, and they're all painted desert for that deployment.

Yeah but that's the uglier Mk1 one.

Edit: Nevermind, it's not. The picture's just taken from a weird angle that makes it look flatter than it is.

This is a pretty good picture. Just ignore the anti-air MG.

[Transoxthraxia]

I can most likely post sometime this evening after I've done some work on my school stuff.

[Ayreonia]

Well, there is not much for me to do with Eira besides huddle in the crew compartment. Of course, I could make her have a surge of bravery and help counter the boarding bandits.

I did consider sending Eira instead of Elsha because she can suddenly go berserk, bur Elsha hasn't seen much action lately and has a sword she's never used.

Anybody's welcome to join the fray if they want to. The goal is, of course, to commandeer the technical.

[Transoxthraxia]

Well, there is not much for me to do with Eira besides huddle in the crew compartment. Of course, I could make her have a surge of bravery and help counter the boarding bandits.

I did consider sending Eira instead of Elsha because she can suddenly go berserk, bur Elsha hasn't seen much action lately and has a sword she's never used.

Anybody's welcome to join the fray if they want to. The goal is, of course, to commandeer the technical.

Furia can't drive. I feel like she should be the one eventually behind the wheel.

[Ayreonia]

I did consider sending Eira instead of Elsha because she can suddenly go berserk, bur Elsha hasn't seen much action lately and has a sword she's never used.

Anybody's welcome to join the fray if they want to. The goal is, of course, to commandeer the technical.

Furia can't drive. I feel like she should be the one eventually behind the wheel.

Oh, maybe she slips as she changes vehicles and somehow ends up behind the wheel. That happens, right?

[Neo Arcad]

Furia can't drive. I feel like she should be the one eventually behind the wheel.

Oh, maybe she slips as she changes vehicles and somehow ends up behind the wheel. That happens, right?

Well, yeah. It's pretty easy to fuck up jumping between two moving vehicles...

Also: since Lucy is a CV90, we might need another vehicle. Even if she's semi-automated, making more space, the capacity is still 8, which would be crowded with everyone's gear and the supplies and stuff...

[Ayreonia]

Oh, maybe she slips as she changes vehicles and somehow ends up behind the wheel. That happens, right?

Well, yeah. It's pretty easy to fuck up jumping between two moving vehicles...

Also: since Lucy is a CV90, we might need another vehicle. Even if she's semi-automated, making more space, the capacity is still 8, which would be crowded with everyone's gear and the supplies and stuff...

Oh, that's why we're hijacking a bandit technical.

The capacity is 3+8, actually. Driver, gunner, commander plus eight dismounts. Gear takes a lot of space, yeah. The CV wasn't exactly designed for long treks into the desert alone. Each footsoldier was actually allowed only his personal weapons and a small backpack when I served.

And it's spacious compared to a BMP.

[Neo Arcad]

Well, yeah. It's pretty easy to fuck up jumping between two moving vehicles...

Also: since Lucy is a CV90, we might need another vehicle. Even if she's semi-automated, making more space, the capacity is still 8, which would be crowded with everyone's gear and the supplies and stuff...

Oh, that's why we're hijacking a bandit technical.

The capacity is 3+8, actually. Driver, gunner, commander plus eight dismounts. Gear takes a lot of space, yeah. The CV wasn't exactly designed for long treks into the desert alone. Each footsoldier was actually allowed only his personal weapons and a small backpack when I served.

And it's spacious compared to a BMP.

Yeah, the Soviet armored corps actually wouldn't accept tankers or BMP crewmen over 5'6" tall, if I recall. Still, we could do something a bit classier than a technical. How about something like a Fennek, or an FV721 Fox?

And I'm going to guess... Dutch Army?

[Ayreonia]

Oh, that's why we're hijacking a bandit technical.

The capacity is 3+8, actually. Driver, gunner, commander plus eight dismounts. Gear takes a lot of space, yeah. The CV wasn't exactly designed for long treks into the desert alone. Each footsoldier was actually allowed only his personal weapons and a small backpack when I served.

And it's spacious compared to a BMP.

Yeah, the Soviet armored corps actually wouldn't accept tankers or BMP crewmen over 5'6" tall, if I recall. Still, we could do something a bit classier than a technical. How about something like a Fennek, or an FV721 Fox?

And I'm going to guess... Dutch Army?

Come now, these are bandits. It's not like they have anything classy. We might get a chance to upgrade later.

And not quite. Finnish. Why would you think I'm Dutch?

[Transoxthraxia]

So guys, I'd like your opinion. Ayreonia and I have been talking over telegrams, trying to world-build a bit, and add some lore to the whole story. I've been thinking more bandits - but ones with more personality, think something along the lines of Borderlands, where they're literally shouting the ways they're going to kill you as they attempt to do it, psychotic things like that. On the other hand, Ayreonia says that there isn't much to raid on Rigel 3, and so therefore there shouldn't be many bandits.

I guess my argument to that would be that bandits wouldn't necessarily only raid. They are outlaws, that is, people who are outside the law. In most cases, at least from what has been described to me, there either is rudimentary law or none at all in most places, so a place where you could help dictate the laws, say, in a bandit stronghold, would be a lot more attractive than a poor-ass town like Twixt Hills. Therefore, these bandits aren't only after fame, fortune, and a good shootout, but they're after a simple, safe life, which wouldn't normally be found amongst places that are under UNSEC control, or outside of that.

[Neo Arcad]

Yeah, the Soviet armored corps actually wouldn't accept tankers or BMP crewmen over 5'6" tall, if I recall. Still, we could do something a bit classier than a technical. How about something like a Fennek, or an FV721 Fox?

And I'm going to guess... Dutch Army?

Come now, these are bandits. It's not like they have anything classy. We might get a chance to upgrade later.

And not quite. Finnish. Why would you think I'm Dutch?

Ah, maybe we could get something from Gazprom... if people decide to post.

You seemed to be hip on desert warfare in the CV90, and the Dutch Army was the only CV90 user I could think of that had deployed in Iraq. It's not like I could tell from your accent or anything...

[Ayreonia]

Come now, these are bandits. It's not like they have anything classy. We might get a chance to upgrade later.

And not quite. Finnish. Why would you think I'm Dutch?

Ah, maybe we could get something from Gazprom... if people decide to post.

You seemed to be hip on desert warfare in the CV90, and the Dutch Army was the only CV90 user I could think of that had deployed in Iraq. It's not like I could tell from your accent or anything...

I don't actually know shit about desert warfare. There has been one time when I've operated in a desert-ish environment, and that was an old artillery training area that was so shelled to hell that vegetation simply refused to grow there.

Arctic warfare, on the other hand...

[Neo Arcad]

So guys, I'd like your opinion. Ayreonia and I have been talking over telegrams, trying to world-build a bit, and add some lore to the whole story. I've been thinking more bandits - but ones with more personality, think something along the lines of Borderlands, where they're literally shouting the ways they're going to kill you as they attempt to do it, psychotic things like that. On the other hand, Ayreonia says that there isn't much to raid on Rigel 3, and so therefore there shouldn't be many bandits.

I guess my argument to that would be that bandits wouldn't necessarily only raid. They are outlaws, that is, people who are outside the law. In most cases, at least from what has been described to me, there either is rudimentary law or none at all in most places, so a place where you could help dictate the laws, say, in a bandit stronghold, would be a lot more attractive than a poor-ass town like Twixt Hills. Therefore, these bandits aren't only after fame, fortune, and a good shootout, but they're after a simple, safe life, which wouldn't normally be found amongst places that are under UNSEC control, or outside of that.

I feel like there would be less bandit groups and more people in small villages and towns. Ramshackle Hoovervilles, places that can be packed up and moved in some sense, should the need arise. Nomads, in other words, who might periodically turn to banditry to survive.

[The Carlisle]

Well, there is not much for me to do with Eira besides huddle in the crew compartment. Of course, I could make her have a surge of bravery and help counter the boarding bandits.

I did consider sending Eira instead of Elsha because she can suddenly go berserk, bur Elsha hasn't seen much action lately and has a sword she's never used.

Anybody's welcome to join the fray if they want to. The goal is, of course, to commandeer the technical.

She's medded, so no personalities coming out for now. And I really don't want to bring her out unless you want her to take the vehicle we're boarding.

[Ayreonia]

So guys, I'd like your opinion. Ayreonia and I have been talking over telegrams, trying to world-build a bit, and add some lore to the whole story. I've been thinking more bandits - but ones with more personality, think something along the lines of Borderlands, where they're literally shouting the ways they're going to kill you as they attempt to do it, psychotic things like that. On the other hand, Ayreonia says that there isn't much to raid on Rigel 3, and so therefore there shouldn't be many bandits.

I guess my argument to that would be that bandits wouldn't necessarily only raid. They are outlaws, that is, people who are outside the law. In most cases, at least from what has been described to me, there either is rudimentary law or none at all in most places, so a place where you could help dictate the laws, say, in a bandit stronghold, would be a lot more attractive than a poor-ass town like Twixt Hills. Therefore, these bandits aren't only after fame, fortune, and a good shootout, but they're after a simple, safe life, which wouldn't normally be found amongst places that are under UNSEC control, or outside of that.

That's a very good argument, actually.

Might as well post this little thing I wrote:

That actually brings up an important point. Geopolitical regions. So far I've got these:

Core Lands: anything that's inhabited and is under the jurisdiction of some group. Mostly around the equator. Bandits don't dare to raid these areas.

Badlands: areas around the Core Lands without official government. Mainly consist of small settlements like Twixt Hills. There's some semblance of order, which usually arises from the direct influence of local merchants/mercenaries/communities. Relatively stable. Bandit attacks aren't uncommon, but they usually prey on frontier settlements. If a major clan is forming, Badlands communities usually put aside their differences and band together to eliminate the new threat. Of course, sometimes these bandit clans settle down and become legitimate communities as farms, trading posts or moisture collectors.

Wastelands: anything beyond the Badlands. Permanent settlements are scarce, and are usually groups of outcasts or criminal dens. Law is in the hands of the group with the most firepower. The Deep Sands, the largest desert on Rigel-3 and home to the Glow, is almost entirely Wasteland.

Note that the Eastern Dune Sea, Gazprom's turf, is actually considered a part of the Core Lands. Don't let names fool you: since all the planet is dry and arid, the only places that wouldn't be considered "deserts" by Earth standards are the ones that people haven't bothered to cultivate. Which is most of the damn dustball.

[The Carlisle]

So guys, I'd like your opinion. Ayreonia and I have been talking over telegrams, trying to world-build a bit, and add some lore to the whole story. I've been thinking more bandits - but ones with more personality, think something along the lines of Borderlands, where they're literally shouting the ways they're going to kill you as they attempt to do it, psychotic things like that. On the other hand, Ayreonia says that there isn't much to raid on Rigel 3, and so therefore there shouldn't be many bandits.

I guess my argument to that would be that bandits wouldn't necessarily only raid. They are outlaws, that is, people who are outside the law. In most cases, at least from what has been described to me, there either is rudimentary law or none at all in most places, so a place where you could help dictate the laws, say, in a bandit stronghold, would be a lot more attractive than a poor-ass town like Twixt Hills. Therefore, these bandits aren't only after fame, fortune, and a good shootout, but they're after a simple, safe life, which wouldn't normally be found amongst places that are under UNSEC control, or outside of that.

I feel like there would be less bandit groups and more people in small villages and towns. Ramshackle Hoovervilles, places that can be packed up and moved in some sense, should the need arise. Nomads, in other words, who might periodically turn to banditry to survive.

Nomads, I like it.

[Neo Arcad]

So guys, I'd like your opinion. Ayreonia and I have been talking over telegrams, trying to world-build a bit, and add some lore to the whole story. I've been thinking more bandits - but ones with more personality, think something along the lines of Borderlands, where they're literally shouting the ways they're going to kill you as they attempt to do it, psychotic things like that. On the other hand, Ayreonia says that there isn't much to raid on Rigel 3, and so therefore there shouldn't be many bandits.

I guess my argument to that would be that bandits wouldn't necessarily only raid. They are outlaws, that is, people who are outside the law. In most cases, at least from what has been described to me, there either is rudimentary law or none at all in most places, so a place where you could help dictate the laws, say, in a bandit stronghold, would be a lot more attractive than a poor-ass town like Twixt Hills. Therefore, these bandits aren't only after fame, fortune, and a good shootout, but they're after a simple, safe life, which wouldn't normally be found amongst places that are under UNSEC control, or outside of that.

That's a very good argument, actually.

Might as well post this little thing I wrote:

That actually brings up an important point. Geopolitical regions. So far I've got these:

Core Lands: anything that's inhabited and is under the jurisdiction of some group. Mostly around the equator. Bandits don't dare to raid these areas.

Badlands: areas around the Core Lands without official government. Mainly consist of small settlements like Twixt Hills. There's some semblance of order, which usually arises from the direct influence of local merchants/mercenaries/communities. Relatively stable. Bandit attacks aren't uncommon, but they usually prey on frontier settlements. If a major clan is forming, Badlands communities usually put aside their differences and band together to eliminate the new threat. Of course, sometimes these bandit clans settle down and become legitimate communities as farms, trading posts or moisture collectors.

Wastelands: anything beyond the Badlands. Permanent settlements are scarce, and are usually groups of outcasts or criminal dens. Law is in the hands of the group with the most firepower. The Deep Sands, the largest desert on Rigel-3 and home to the Glow, is almost entirely Wasteland.

Note that the Eastern Dune Sea, Gazprom's turf, is actually considered a part of the Core Lands. Don't let names fool you: since all the planet is dry and arid, the only places that wouldn't be considered "deserts" by Earth standards are the ones that people haven't bothered to cultivate. Which is most of the damn dustball.

One thing: the Core Lands ought to be around the poles, because of the way planets and seasons work. They'd be the coolest (relatively speaking) parts of the planet.

[Neo Arcad]

Ah, maybe we could get something from Gazprom... if people decide to post.

You seemed to be hip on desert warfare in the CV90, and the Dutch Army was the only CV90 user I could think of that had deployed in Iraq. It's not like I could tell from your accent or anything...

I don't actually know shit about desert warfare. There has been one time when I've operated in a desert-ish environment, and that was an old artillery training area that was so shelled to hell that vegetation simply refused to grow there.

Arctic warfare, on the other hand...

The Finnish Army is the indisputable master of arctic warfare. Even the Russians are no match when you've got the likes of Simo Hayha running around...

[Ayreonia]

That's a very good argument, actually.

Might as well post this little thing I wrote:

One thing: the Core Lands ought to be around the poles, because of the way planets and seasons work. They'd be the coolest (relatively speaking) parts of the planet.

Rigel-3 isn't actually that much hotter than Earth. It's just... dry.

[Ayreonia]

I don't actually know shit about desert warfare. There has been one time when I've operated in a desert-ish environment, and that was an old artillery training area that was so shelled to hell that vegetation simply refused to grow there.

Arctic warfare, on the other hand...

The Finnish Army is the indisputable master of arctic warfare. Even the Russians are no match when you've got the likes of Simo Hayha running around...

And since his time, we've been preparing. Watching. Waiting. Training.

We're getting better.

[Pan Asian Amercian Coalition]

The Finnish Army is the indisputable master of arctic warfare. Even the Russians are no match when you've got the likes of Simo Hayha running around...

And since his time, we've been preparing. Watching. Waiting. Training.

We're getting better.

I think the Russians learned from the Winter war to never touch Finland inappropriately ever again.

[Ayreonia]

And since his time, we've been preparing. Watching. Waiting. Training.

We're getting better.

I think the Russians learned from the Winter war to never touch Finland inappropriately ever again.

I certainly hope so, for Jess' sake. If not, maybe I'll ask her out on a date once we're done with our victory parade in Moskova.

[Transoxthraxia]

I think the Russians learned from the Winter war to never touch Finland inappropriately ever again.

I certainly hope so, for Jess' sake. If not, maybe I'll ask her out on a date once we're done with our victory parade in Moskova.

And us Lithuanians would help with that damn invasion.

[Neo Arcad]

I think the Russians learned from the Winter war to never touch Finland inappropriately ever again.

I certainly hope so, for Jess' sake. If not, maybe I'll ask her out on a date once we're done with our victory parade in Moskova.

Tch. America could have ended the Cold War early if Finland hasn't been neutral...

EDIT: And we could end the bandit chase early if y'all would post.