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Veniceia (Ancient)
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Postby Veniceia (Ancient) » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:01 pm

Early bows and slings are allowed, correct? I'm thinking of using them in my 5700-4000 leap.
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Harkback Union
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Postby Harkback Union » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:03 pm

Please move Cloqbern (grey dot near quebeck) to Seattle! Thanks!

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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:52 pm

Reatra wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
People who have godmodded so far (not that this means much):
1. Dude who sailed around the Iberian Penisula (was that Reatra?). I think he fixed that.
2. Dude who invented the wheel in 5000 BCE in Ireland (I think that was Pac union).
3. Dude who invented writing forever ago (I think that was Vekta-H).

Not sure who else.



First, I didn't sail around Iberia. I sailed to the bottom of Italia and back. Also, I am barely advancing with my sails now.


Woops. Sorry. I meant to say Italian Peninsula.... Not sure how those got switched.

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Bujahla wrote:
Jw, are you the Co-OP cause you'd be a good one.


Speaking of which, your population of fifteen thousand stretches credulity. You started with, what, two thousand tops? Population in this time period hasn't grown nearly that quickly; from 6000-4000 BCE the world populace only grew by 40%.


Well lets due the math on this one. My population grew in that city by 650%, which seems like a lot. Then you realize it was over 2000 years. This leads to an average growth rate of only 0.325% which is quite small. Also considering that this isn't someplace like Ireland or Denmark, this is Egypt (tempting to say this is sparta). Egypt was one of the most populated regions in the paleolithic era (and still was in the ancient era). Memphis (where my proto-city Kimas is) actually had a city population that was in roughly the same as I have mine, in the tens of thousands. I would understand that comment had I been located in the middle of the Sahara (granted at this time it wasn't a desert) or in the Steppes or somewhere else. However, I am located in one of the places where the earliest states formed, the lush rivers of the nile.
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:58 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Reatra wrote:

First, I didn't sail around Iberia. I sailed to the bottom of Italia and back. Also, I am barely advancing with my sails now.


Woops. Sorry. I meant to say Italian Peninsula.... Not sure how those got switched.

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Speaking of which, your population of fifteen thousand stretches credulity. You started with, what, two thousand tops? Population in this time period hasn't grown nearly that quickly; from 6000-4000 BCE the world populace only grew by 40%.


Well lets due the math on this one. My population grew in that city by 650%, which seems like a lot. Then you realize it was over 2000 years. This leads to an average growth rate of only 0.325% which is quite small. Also considering that this isn't someplace like Ireland or Denmark, this is Egypt (tempting to say this is sparta). Egypt was one of the most populated regions in the paleolithic era (and still was in the ancient era). Memphis (where my proto-city Kimas is) actually had a city population that was in roughly the same as I have mine, in the tens of thousands. I would understand that comment had I been located in the middle of the Sahara (granted at this time it wasn't a desert) or in the Steppes or somewhere else. However, I am located in one of the places where the earliest states formed, the lush rivers of the nile.

Is 300 sq miles too much for 4500 bc? Granted they aren't really connected by roads yet (give it another 200 years) nor do they have the exact same language, but they are all ruled by my city's emperors.
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Alouite
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Postby Alouite » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:04 pm

Name of city: Tazarwaoult
Population(no more than 8500): 7750
Description of village(like what the buildings are made of, what special buildings(not huts) there are, etc. ): Most buldings are either made of stone,
Sand and Mud, or are carved into the mountains. Special buildings include worship buildings which only the gods own, basic sand and stone walls, and a decently tall tower (decently tall for the era) at the center of the village owned by the aristocrats
Location: Atlas Mountains, Morocco
Religion: Berber Gods
Government(either despotism or tribal democracy or something of the sort): The Aristocratic Families
Leader(s): The Marin family and the Ala'i family
Other notes: I'm excited about dis one!
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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:01 pm

Bujahla wrote:Well lets due the math on this one. My population grew in that city by 650%, which seems like a lot. Then you realize it was over 2000 years. This leads to an average growth rate of only 0.325% which is quite small. Also considering that this isn't someplace like Ireland or Denmark, this is Egypt (tempting to say this is sparta). Egypt was one of the most populated regions in the paleolithic era (and still was in the ancient era). Memphis (where my proto-city Kimas is) actually had a city population that was in roughly the same as I have mine, in the tens of thousands. I would understand that comment had I been located in the middle of the Sahara (granted at this time it wasn't a desert) or in the Steppes or somewhere else. However, I am located in one of the places where the earliest states formed, the lush rivers of the nile.


And then let's do some more math.

What is 15000*(1.00325^6000)?

I'll save you some trouble; it's 4.27*10^12, or 4,270,000,000,000.

That means, at your growth rate of "only" 0.325%, the population of only your segment of the world will be four trillion in 2000. Not billion, but trillion.

Actual humanity in this era grew at an average rate of 0.0002% annually.
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:04 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Bujahla wrote:Well lets due the math on this one. My population grew in that city by 650%, which seems like a lot. Then you realize it was over 2000 years. This leads to an average growth rate of only 0.325% which is quite small. Also considering that this isn't someplace like Ireland or Denmark, this is Egypt (tempting to say this is sparta). Egypt was one of the most populated regions in the paleolithic era (and still was in the ancient era). Memphis (where my proto-city Kimas is) actually had a city population that was in roughly the same as I have mine, in the tens of thousands. I would understand that comment had I been located in the middle of the Sahara (granted at this time it wasn't a desert) or in the Steppes or somewhere else. However, I am located in one of the places where the earliest states formed, the lush rivers of the nile.


And then let's do some more math.

What is 1500*(1.00325^6000)?

I'll save you some trouble; it's 4.27*10^12, or 4,270,000,000,000.

That means, at your growth rate of "only" 0.325%, the population of only your segment of the world will be four trillion. Not billion, but trillion.

Actual humanity in this era grew at an average rate of 0.0002% annually.

Want some cold water Bujahla?
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Pac union
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Postby Pac union » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:28 pm

Bujahla wrote:
People who have godmodded so far (not that this means much):
1. Dude who sailed around the Iberian Penisula (was that Reatra?). I think he fixed that.
2. Dude who invented the wheel in 5000 BCE in Ireland (I think that was Pac union).
3. Dude who invented writing forever ago (I think that was Vekta-H).

Not sure who else.


Pac union wrote:
5500 BCE- Earliest evidence of cheese making
4900 BCE- Wine is created for the first time
4900 BCE- Plough is introduced in bython
4700 BCE- first use of Proto-writing in bython
4600 BCE- circular ditches are built around the villages
4500 BCE- Copper smelting first happens in bython
4100 BCE-Beer brewing is developed
4000 BCE- bython invents of the wheel
4000 BCE - Bython population has risen to 8180.




Sorry my mistake Post change

I am using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_millennium_BC

As my maths is not so good can you check and if found too be high can you let be know what it should be

Many thanks
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The Vekta-Helghast Empire
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:41 pm

What the balls.. People can now apply with up to 8000 people now?

My population even after the time jump is only 2438..

I may have to re-consider my growth..

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Tribea
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Postby Tribea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:01 pm

Dafuq i miss?
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Pac union
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Postby Pac union » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:03 pm

OK lowered my Population

is 5,250 - 4286 = 964 to big of a rise for 1700 years
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Tribea
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Postby Tribea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:06 pm

Gtech...
Dafuq is balam?
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:08 pm

Idek. My total population 2,148
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Tribea
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Postby Tribea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:10 pm

Al-Ahkri wrote:Idek. My total population (Xochtl+Naoac+Atl+Yaotl+Matzatal+Xochialto+Zacatl= 7 cities total) is 10,384 people

GUYS, GREECE AND SUMERIA WERE BARELY SETTLED AT MOST BY NOW.
NO MORE THEN ONE CITY!!!!
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:12 pm

Tribea wrote:
Al-Ahkri wrote:Idek. My total population (Xochtl+Naoac+Atl+Yaotl+Matzatal+Xochialto+Zacatl= 7 cities total) is 10,384 people

GUYS, GREECE AND SUMERIA WERE BARELY SETTLED AT MOST BY NOW.
NO MORE THEN ONE CITY!!!!

It's 3500 bc isn't it???
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Walk always in the light, or we will drag you to it
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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:14 pm

Tribea wrote:Gtech...
Dafuq is balam?


Arsenic bronze, though my people don't even know what bronze is yet.
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:16 pm

WHAT YEAR IS IT
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Alouite
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Postby Alouite » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:16 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Tribea wrote:Gtech...
Dafuq is balam?


Arsenic bronze, though my people don't even know what bronze is yet.

Hey G-tech, can you make Reatra aware of my app if you guys get to the next page and Im offline?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:22 pm

Alouite wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Arsenic bronze, though my people don't even know what bronze is yet.

Hey G-tech, can you make Reatra aware of my app if you guys get to the next page and Im offline?


Absolutely.
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Tribea
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Postby Tribea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:23 pm

Al-Ahkri wrote:
Tribea wrote:GUYS, GREECE AND SUMERIA WERE BARELY SETTLED AT MOST BY NOW.
NO MORE THEN ONE CITY!!!!

It's 3500 bc isn't it???

4000.
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Ardenburg
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Postby Ardenburg » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:23 pm

Veniceia wrote:Early bows and slings are allowed, correct? I'm thinking of using them in my 5700-4000 leap.


Wiki tells me bows have been dated in Denmark to 9000 BC

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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:25 pm

Tribea wrote:
Al-Ahkri wrote:It's 3500 bc isn't it???

4000.

Oh. My bad, please forgive me Tribea. Forget my previous comment if you haven't a,ready
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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:42 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Bujahla wrote:Well lets due the math on this one. My population grew in that city by 650%, which seems like a lot. Then you realize it was over 2000 years. This leads to an average growth rate of only 0.325% which is quite small. Also considering that this isn't someplace like Ireland or Denmark, this is Egypt (tempting to say this is sparta). Egypt was one of the most populated regions in the paleolithic era (and still was in the ancient era). Memphis (where my proto-city Kimas is) actually had a city population that was in roughly the same as I have mine, in the tens of thousands. I would understand that comment had I been located in the middle of the Sahara (granted at this time it wasn't a desert) or in the Steppes or somewhere else. However, I am located in one of the places where the earliest states formed, the lush rivers of the nile.


And then let's do some more math.

What is 15000*(1.00325^6000)?

I'll save you some trouble; it's 4.27*10^12, or 4,270,000,000,000.

That means, at your growth rate of "only" 0.325%, the population of only your segment of the world will be four trillion in 2000. Not billion, but trillion.

Actual humanity in this era grew at an average rate of 0.0002% annually.


That's exponential growth rate not average growth rate....
*Huzzah he lives!*

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Tribea
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Postby Tribea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:55 pm

PEOPLE, THERE ARE NO NATIONS, KINGDOMS, OR WHATNOT!
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:59 pm

Well technically a nation or kingdom doesn't mean a substantial amount of territory. Or technological advancement
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