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G-Tech Corporation
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:26 pm

Renetopia wrote:What's the current year?


Right now we're in the 23rd century, between 2400 and 2300 BC.
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Postby Horusland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:26 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Getting saltpeter from manure isn't an easy process anyway though; you have to combine manure with the right proportions of charcoal and wood, leave it for about a year, keep it constantly wet with urine (for the nitrogen to combine into nitrate) and turn it over at carefully paced intervals in order for it to produce saltpeter crystals in usable quantities. You then need to leech the saltpeter out of the morass bias scourging with very hot water, and only then will you have several grams of usable saltpeter for combination into black powder.

You have to have a very obsessed very crazy man who very specifically got a lot of help and time on his hands.

So, um..... how did they find that out? :p

Renetopia wrote:What's the current year?

In the OP.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:28 pm

HorusLand wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Getting saltpeter from manure isn't an easy process anyway though; you have to combine manure with the right proportions of charcoal and wood, leave it for about a year, keep it constantly wet with urine (for the nitrogen to combine into nitrate) and turn it over at carefully paced intervals in order for it to produce saltpeter crystals in usable quantities. You then need to leech the saltpeter out of the morass bias scourging with very hot water, and only then will you have several grams of usable saltpeter for combination into black powder.

You have to have a very obsessed very crazy man who very specifically got a lot of help and time on his hands.

So, um..... how did they find that out? :p


*Hides crap on the desk behind him*, "I dunno"
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:30 pm

HorusLand wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Getting saltpeter from manure isn't an easy process anyway though; you have to combine manure with the right proportions of charcoal and wood, leave it for about a year, keep it constantly wet with urine (for the nitrogen to combine into nitrate) and turn it over at carefully paced intervals in order for it to produce saltpeter crystals in usable quantities. You then need to leech the saltpeter out of the morass bias scourging with very hot water, and only then will you have several grams of usable saltpeter for combination into black powder.

You have to have a very obsessed very crazy man who very specifically got a lot of help and time on his hands.

So, um..... how did they find that out? :p

Renetopia wrote:What's the current year?

In the OP.


Damifino. The historical record has no idea.

I'd assume it was a very slow trial and error refinement of the process, evolving out of the extraction of saltpeter from bat guano. Saltpeter used to be worth many many times it's weight in gold due to the rarity of naturally occurring extraction sites, so I'm assuming some crazy merchant was like "hey, bat excrement is kinda like ours" and slowly over many generations developed the process enough to be able to make bank selling his "shit flowers".
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:41 pm

The Mesomamericans had several types of alcoholic beverages. I smell industry :))))
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Postby Tribea » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:01 pm

Al-Ahkri wrote:The Mesomamericans had several types of alcoholic beverages. I smell industry :))))

I made alcohol last millennium.
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Postby Harkback Union » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:06 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Al-Ahkri wrote:I guess. But that means everything would have to be the exact same for gunpowder to be invented in the same region by the same people. Because we have started to rewrite history, very little is 100% assured.


Indeed. Though, to be honest, we have no idea what historically led to the invention if black powder in the first place; there are no legends about it's creation, it merely appears in the historical record.

What could lead to someone combining saltpeter (normally obtained in tiny impure crystals from dung heaps) with charcoal and sulfur and then lighting it is beyond me.


I've heard some Chinese alchemists were funded by the state to make a potion that would give people back their youth. Eventually, they ran out of ideas and decided to just randomly mix every substance known to man in every possible way until they find the right combination... and that's how they stumbled upon gunpowder.

Also, I WAS THE FIRST TO BUILD BATHHOUSES!
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:14 pm

Tribea wrote:
Al-Ahkri wrote:The Mesomamericans had several types of alcoholic beverages. I smell industry :))))

I made alcohol last millennium.

Don't really care
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:16 pm

Harkback Union wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Indeed. Though, to be honest, we have no idea what historically led to the invention if black powder in the first place; there are no legends about it's creation, it merely appears in the historical record.

What could lead to someone combining saltpeter (normally obtained in tiny impure crystals from dung heaps) with charcoal and sulfur and then lighting it is beyond me.


I've heard some Chinese alchemists were funded by the state to make a potion that would give people back their youth. Eventually, they ran out of ideas and decided to just randomly mix every substance known to man in every possible way until they find the right combination... and that's how they stumbled upon gunpowder.

Also, I WAS THE FIRST TO BUILD BATHHOUSES!


Three hundred years too early, therefore they were clearly invalid :P

That sounds hilarious, but implausible. Combining everything known to man seems unlikely to produce saltpeter.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:26 pm

:clap: Al made the shortest post on the IC thread, congrats :clap:
No, but seriously, add some more detail and some dates to explain what is going on.
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:28 pm

Alouite wrote::clap: Al made the shortest post on the IC thread, congrats :clap:
No, but seriously, add some more detail and some dates to explain what is going on.

I made a really long one! But I accidentally ex'd out the page and it all got deleted. I'm way too lazy to retype it ughhhhhh D:
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Postby Horusland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:31 pm

Al and Al. Both of you stop calling each other Al. Kay, Als? :p
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:34 pm

Al-Ahkri wrote:
Alouite wrote::clap: Al made the shortest post on the IC thread, congrats :clap:
No, but seriously, add some more detail and some dates to explain what is going on.

I made a really long one! But I accidentally ex'd out the page and it all got deleted. I'm way too lazy to retype it ughhhhhh D:

Oh, thats happened to me before, actually, it happened on what would have been an even better intro.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:34 pm

HorusLand wrote:Al and Al. Both of you stop calling each other Al. Kay, Als? :p

Okay Al. :rofl:
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:56 pm

Alouite wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Al and Al. Both of you stop calling each other Al. Kay, Als? :p

Okay Al. :rofl:

Ok Ho,
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Al-Ahkri wrote:
Alouite wrote:Okay Al. :rofl:

Ok Ho,

Lol, even better :lol2: :rofl: :rofl: :lol2:
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:17 pm

Alouite wrote:
Al-Ahkri wrote:Ok Ho,

Lol, even better :lol2: :rofl: :rofl: :lol2:

I try :D *bows*
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Postby Tribea » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:31 pm

Alouite hae been cleared to start an RIA chapter in his AH rp.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:18 pm

Tribea wrote:Alouite hae been cleared to start an RIA chapter in his AH rp.

My 1495 one, it could sure use help, heck while were at it we should make a thread for our 'members' (Ranters)
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Postby Tribea » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:43 pm

Alouite wrote:
Tribea wrote:Alouite hae been cleared to start an RIA chapter in his AH rp.

My 1495 one, it could sure use help, heck while were at it we should make a thread for our 'members' (Ranters)

I aint postin till Nuv is out.
For any number of reasons.
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:36 pm

My hegemonic empire is alive!!!!!!!!!!





Too soon?
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Postby Alouite » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:47 pm

Tribea wrote:
Alouite wrote:My 1495 one, it could sure use help, heck while were at it we should make a thread for our 'members' (Ranters)

I aint postin till Nuv is out.
For any number of reasons.

Don't worry, he'll get himself kicked soon enough.
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Al-Ahkri
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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:49 pm

Alouite wrote:
Tribea wrote:I aint postin till Nuv is out.
For any number of reasons.

Don't worry, he'll get himself kicked soon enough.

I'm good though right? My hegemonic empire is okay?
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Postby Ultramania (Ancient) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:51 pm

I don't want to be "that guy", but there are an awful lot of massive empires. Massive even if the game were 200 years later than it is right now.

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Postby Al-Ahkri » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:52 pm

Ultramania wrote:I don't want to be "that guy", but there are an awful lot of massive empires. Massive even if the game were 200 years later than it is right now.

You do realize "that guy" is the RIA right? Snitches get stitches isnt our policy? And if you see something, say something?
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