Space; The First Frontier RP Group (OOC/Apps)

[Segmentia]

Superior to your infantry in every way ? Plus bigger means yes larger targets but more Armor and endurance

You really want to start with this?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Superior to your infantry in every way ? Plus bigger means yes larger targets but more Armor and endurance

Armor and endurance mean little when you're such a large target on the battlefield. Just means better chance of larger ordnance hitting you.

If anything worth a damn hits him, then logically it would hit a regular-sized chap too.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Superior to your infantry in every way ? Plus bigger means yes larger targets but more Armor and endurance

You really want to start with this?

Nope.

[Reatra]

I don't know about more endurance....... but armor sure.

[Segmentia]

You really want to start with this?

Nope.

Besides, more armor means more expense. Have fun crashing all your economies by equipping all your troops with power-armor.

^Applies to everyone who gives all their soldiers power-armor.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Nope.

Besides, more armor means more expense. Have fun crashing all your economies by equipping all your troops with power-armor.

^Applies to everyone who gives all their soldiers power-armor.

^Tell that to the Oni.

[Segmentia]

Besides, more armor means more expense. Have fun crashing all your economies by equipping all your troops with power-armor.

^Applies to everyone who gives all their soldiers power-armor.

^Tell that to the Oni.

I will you guys probably spend more than 1,000 times the amount of money on each soldier then I do.

[Imperial City-States]

It would only be uber expensive if the technology hasn't been refined , once refined it could be as cheap as producing Kevlar - but you can assume a species of that size would build Tanks , SPG's ect. Designed to fit their physique , Yes it does make you a larger target but the benifits outweigh the problems specifically I'm certain scenarios ( looking at you Urban warfare and trenches ) where a physically superior soldier is better

[Segmentia]

It would only be uber expensive if the technology hasn't been refined , once refined it could be as cheap as producing Kevlar - but you can assume a species of that size would build Tanks , SPG's ect. Designed to fit their physique , Yes it does make you a larger target but the benifits outweigh the problems specifically I'm certain scenarios ( looking at you Urban warfare and trenches ) where a physically superior soldier is better

Bigger =/= Better.

[Reatra]

Is that supposed to be "is not equal to"?

[Zeinbrad]

It would only be uber expensive if the technology hasn't been refined , once refined it could be as cheap as producing Kevlar - but you can assume a species of that size would build Tanks , SPG's ect. Designed to fit their physique , Yes it does make you a larger target but the benifits outweigh the problems specifically I'm certain scenarios ( looking at you Urban warfare and trenches ) where a physically superior soldier is better

Bigger =/= Better.

More=/=Better.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you.

[Imperial City-States]

It would only be uber expensive if the technology hasn't been refined , once refined it could be as cheap as producing Kevlar - but you can assume a species of that size would build Tanks , SPG's ect. Designed to fit their physique , Yes it does make you a larger target but the benifits outweigh the problems specifically I'm certain scenarios ( looking at you Urban warfare and trenches ) where a physically superior soldier is better

Bigger =/= Better.

In some situation it's true , others it isn't - in Urban warfare you'd want a better equip rifleman rather then a good tank in clogged streets

@Zein

More never means better 99% of the time , if I have a platoon of troops in power armor fighting a division of guys with pitchforks (exaggerated but you get the point ) it won't be pretty

[The Empire of Pretantia]

^Tell that to the Oni.

I will you guys probably spend more than 1,000 times the amount of money on each soldier then I do.

How much do you spend on each soldier?

[Segmentia]

Bigger =/= Better.

In some situation it's true , others it isn't - in Urban warfare you'd want a better equip rifleman rather then a good tank in clogged streets

Yea, and when your larger person enters trenches and buildings built for, say, normal sized humans? There goes your advantages.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

In some situation it's true , others it isn't - in Urban warfare you'd want a better equip rifleman rather then a good tank in clogged streets

Yea, and when your larger person enters trenches and buildings built for, say, normal sized humans? There goes your advantages.

And then we have vehicles, which must be larger to accommodate larger passengers, which makes it heavier, which requires more powerful engines, etc.

[Segmentia]

I will you guys probably spend more than 1,000 times the amount of money on each soldier then I do.

How much do you spend on each soldier?

Seeing as how our soldiers get a training, a few uniforms, their pay, and the most expensive thing probably being their weapons, not all that much.

You can't just give someone a suit of power armor and say good luck. It requires additional training, which means more time, which means more money per soldier. Not even counting the expense of the power armor and whatever else you have.

[Legital]

I don't think being bigger would be better in urban warfare and trenches anyways. In those two situations, you want to be a very small target. Have fun taking cover if you're twice the size of a regular human.

[Zeinbrad]

How much do you spend on each soldier?

Seeing as how our soldiers get a training, a few uniforms, their pay, and the most expensive thing probably being their weapons, not all that much.

You can't just give someone a suit of power armor and say good luck. It requires additional training, which means more time, which means more money per soldier. Not even counting the expense of the power armor and whatever else you have.

Yes, but your soldiers would be poorer quality.

More doesn't mean better.

[Segmentia]

Yea, and when your larger person enters trenches and buildings built for, say, normal sized humans? There goes your advantages.

And then we have vehicles, which must be larger to accommodate larger passengers, which makes it heavier, which requires more powerful engines, etc.

Which also means more money. War isn't just throwing armies and navies at the enemy, it's about economics.

[Dolmhold]

Worker Caste Socialis shall be in the range of 4-5 feet tall as average. Hurrah!

As for reproductive caste, they shall be taller, but how tall I don't have a clue yet. 6-8 feet might make sense.

Military caste will probably size up near the reproductive caste size, given that it doesn't take much height for a person to become a complete giant to others, and that size is not their main difference at all, and a male reproductive caste member who fails to find a woman within X arbitrary plot time will become military. This third cast is also the most questionable in existence and usage, a major "why do we need this again?" since there isn't much of an argument that workers can't fill this role .

On power armor, I don't see why power armor has to be super expensive, other than the typical "everything military related is heinously expensive" like we see IRL. Having it as standard issue in the future would make sense in my opinion assuming standardization and mass production. In any case, up to the individual nation and their technological flavors for the plot. One thing to keep in mind is what do you want powered armor for? Is it the stuff you see on the dead bodies of any old infantry, or is it designed to make the wearer elite and indestructible? Perhaps you have versions for both. Design it's rarity and its survivability based off these RP considerations.

In my case, the average worker will wear exoskeleton-strength boosters for use in every day life in carrying really stuff around.

Also, more doesn't always mean better, but it can! That's how the allies crushed the axis in WWII, or at least Germany .

[Segmentia]

Seeing as how our soldiers get a training, a few uniforms, their pay, and the most expensive thing probably being their weapons, not all that much.

You can't just give someone a suit of power armor and say good luck. It requires additional training, which means more time, which means more money per soldier. Not even counting the expense of the power armor and whatever else you have.

Yes, but your soldiers would be poorer quality.

More doesn't mean better.

I never said it did. That's why I strike for a middle ground.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

How much do you spend on each soldier?

Seeing as how our soldiers get a training, a few uniforms, their pay, and the most expensive thing probably being their weapons, not all that much.

You can't just give someone a suit of power armor and say good luck. It requires additional training, which means more time, which means more money per soldier. Not even counting the expense of the power armor and whatever else you have.

OK then, so you pretty much have an army on par with modern militaries, plus FT. Considering you have an empire four times my size, with a military that pulls from your entire population, I can see an Oni bruiser with a full arsenal costing several hundred times as much. Although the price is slightly offset by digistruct facilities, the training, energy, and high pay for soldiers offset the production saving (Given that building a digistructer is an expensive endeavor in and of itself, especially if you miniaturize it for personal or even vehicular use).

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Yes, but your soldiers would be poorer quality.

More doesn't mean better.

I never said it did. That's why I strike for a middle ground.

On one end we have Adenia and his cheapskate motley crew of an army. On the other we have The Iron Nation and their six-million dollar men. In the middle we have Seg. Seg sandwich, anyone?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Which unknown ship is that, Imp?

[Imperial City-States]

Size has its pros and cons in an urban enviroment , without power armor I would agree that it would be Better to be small but with powerful armor off-setting the primary disadvantages I do believe a physically stronger opponent would have a slight advantage

@Seg I know war is economics but it your men are dying by the hundreds of thousands during every campaign you can only sustain a war for so long with those kind of losses , the civilian populace gets tired seeing their sons come home I'm box's . Not saying it would be any easier for an "elitist " army but I personally would think a stalemate would ensue , niether side being able to take and hold ground