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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:50 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Zepplien wrote:Unless you don't give a shit about your people, or have AI

AI are easy. Lots of chemicals would ruin metal and circuitry, making them more susceptible than biologic targets to chemical weapons.

Except they wouldn't chew through very efficiently.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:52 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:AI are easy. Lots of chemicals would ruin metal and circuitry, making them more susceptible than biologic targets to chemical weapons.

Except they wouldn't chew through very efficiently.

Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

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Postby Zepplien » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:53 pm

Mediciano wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Except they wouldn't chew through very efficiently.

Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

What if the AI don't care?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:53 pm

Mediciano wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Except they wouldn't chew through very efficiently.

Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

It'd have to get through the shell and reach the metalloids first.
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Postby Rekan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:54 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Except they wouldn't chew through very efficiently.

Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

Like dioxygen difluoride.

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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:55 pm

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Mediciano wrote:Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

What if the AI don't care?

As AI, they would care. It would be destroying every metal structure on your planet/in your fleet and could potentially cover a large swathe of area. What intelligence, artificial or otherwise, wouldn't care?

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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm

Rekan wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

Like dioxygen difluoride.

Exactly. All oxidants would work and, if deployed on a large scale, would have such a drastic effect that they would be near irreversible.

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Postby Dolmhold » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Zepplien wrote:What if the AI don't care?

As AI, they would care. It would be destroying every metal structure on your planet/in your fleet and could potentially cover a large swathe of area. What intelligence, artificial or otherwise, wouldn't care?

Shields. Ay? My dear friends, let us not forget our dear friends, the shields. Flipping glorious little eggshells. Put them on and they'll keep everything out.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Doesn't matter. There are elements/compounds that react negatively with metalloids and would last longer than the metals.

It'd have to get through the shell and reach the metalloids first.

What's the shell made of? Everything corrodes.

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Postby Zepplien » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:57 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Zepplien wrote:What if the AI don't care?

As AI, they would care. It would be destroying every metal structure on your planet/in your fleet and could potentially cover a large swathe of area. What intelligence, artificial or otherwise, wouldn't care?

I mean, as a tactical use
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:58 pm

Mediciano wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It'd have to get through the shell and reach the metalloids first.

What's the shell made of? Everything corrodes.

It's not like there's a universal corrosive gas
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:58 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:So the first thing you do is send ground troops? You're fucked.

Oh god, what have I done?


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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:59 pm

Zepplien wrote:
Mediciano wrote:As AI, they would care. It would be destroying every metal structure on your planet/in your fleet and could potentially cover a large swathe of area. What intelligence, artificial or otherwise, wouldn't care?

I mean, as a tactical use

Launching high explosive charges that spread oxidants/corrosive agents all over would be a tactical use. I'm just trying to show you that AI aren't exactly end-all be-all organisms. They have quite a few weaknesses, arguably more than that of biological organisms.

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Postby Rekan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:59 pm

How bad would Dioxegen difluoride be if used in a full ICBM sized canister in a city?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:00 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Zepplien wrote:I mean, as a tactical use

Launching high explosive charges that spread oxidants/corrosive agents all over would be a tactical use. I'm just trying to show you that AI aren't exactly end-all be-all organisms. They have quite a few weaknesses, arguably more than that of biological organisms.

They would arguably have less weaknesses, actually.
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Postby Zepplien » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:00 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Zepplien wrote:I mean, as a tactical use

Launching high explosive charges that spread oxidants/corrosive agents all over would be a tactical use. I'm just trying to show you that AI aren't exactly end-all be-all organisms. They have quite a few weaknesses, arguably more than that of biological organisms.

Ah, I see

I only argue that they would be better suited to enter chemical warzones in emergencies
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Postby Adenian » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:00 pm

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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:01 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:What's the shell made of? Everything corrodes.

It's not like there's a universal corrosive gas

But it's likely that you already have your machines coated in one thing, if they're not bare metal. Therefore, we simply utilize the specific agent for the coating and then a powerful oxidant for the metals. You could change the coating, but that would take a long time for 400 billion robots. Also, Carborane acid is very close to a universal corrosive substance.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:02 pm

Pret, that post wasn't directed to you.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:03 pm

Rekan wrote:How bad would Dioxegen difluoride be if used in a full ICBM sized canister in a city?

Let's hope you aren't reliant on steel frame construction...

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Postby Imperial City-States » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:04 pm

Zep check IC

And biological weapons are good for a lot , phycologocal warfare included , a parasite that causes necrosis near the end of its breeding phase , so it's implanted ( burrow into skin , bite or something ) grows , begins feeding on non-essential organs , lays eggs and releases an enzyme that starts necrosis , transferable by water , bodily fluids and good old fashion air burst
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Postby Imperialisium » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:04 pm

Adenian wrote:Has anyone taken it upon themselves to make the HQ thread yet, or have we all agreed to let me do that bit?


I think you may have better skills in that department then me.

I will transition this threads OP page into OCC and for posting APPs. I will keep most of the information so that if by the odd chance someone sees this first they are not thrown off wondering what the First Frontier is.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:05 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Zep check IC

And biological weapons are good for a lot , phycologocal warfare included , a parasite that causes necrosis near the end of its breeding phase , so it's implanted ( burrow into skin , bite or something ) grows , begins feeding on non-essential organs , lays eggs and releases an enzyme that starts necrosis , transferable by water , bodily fluids and good old fashion air burst

STDs are by far the best biological weapons. They discourage reproduction and reak havoc on population levels. A sexually-transmitted malaria virus....... oohhh...

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:05 pm

Mediciano wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It's not like there's a universal corrosive gas

But it's likely that you already have your machines coated in one thing, if they're not bare metal. Therefore, we simply utilize the specific agent for the coating and then a powerful oxidant for the metals. You could change the coating, but that would take a long time for 400 billion robots. Also, Carborane acid is very close to a universal corrosive substance.

The chemicals must be concentrated to have noticeable effect on armor designed for deflecting bullets, and as we all know, chemicals are at the mercy of the wind. Shelling or carpet bombing is more efficient, especially when people can use shields.
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