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[Brissia]

True.......wait, wait.....why are you allying with the Prussians, then? You know they're going to try to conquer you later on, so why not allie with me?

Because that's what's best for Bavaria right now...also the Bavarians hated Austria at this time, and they felt a stronger connection with Prussia (for some stupid reason)

....that.....WAIT A SECOND. What if we ally in secret, without your people or the NGC knowing?

[Gibberan]

America. Pay close attention you have to go through La Paca to get to any of my major cities according to past maps that I just looked up.

What's La Paca? Doesn't come up anywhere on the internet (Which you know, never lies), besides, I'm already near La Plata.

[Brissia]

Ah, frick
You know, If you ally with the NGC,it's USA+UK+NGC+Austria-Hungary+Bolivia

But that would throw off the balance of the game, making one side dominant...if Austria joins the alliance, the game is sort of over...I think that there should be a France-Russia-Italy-Austria-Turkey alliance, personally, to offset the Bavaria-NDC-UK-US one.

Turkey is with the Brits. Also, you've forgotten Spain.

[Shimon-Zhivago]

Perhaps later, but the Bavarians want Tirol, and maybe Salzburg. If I were playing as I would do the politic thingy IRL, none of this would have happened. But I am ze Bavarians, and we need land if we want to survive invasion from France, Austria, or Prussia...also, Bavaria doesn't get along well with Austria...

Anyway, I've been thinking about the coming war, and even if I get a head start due to secrecy, the odds are about dead even between Austrian and Bavarian victory. This will be interesting...

We can form a political alliance, and expand together into Africa. My navy and people, your training and resources.

I'd love to later on, but I'm not going to change my leader's mind instantly in game...that's sort of meta-gaming. First invasion, then results, then we make peace and then we can talk about treaty.

Of course, right now only two nations know about the planned invasion...(Bavaria and NDC)

[Brissia]

We can form a political alliance, and expand together into Africa. My navy and people, your training and resources.

I'd love to later on, but I'm not going to change my leader's mind instantly in game...that's sort of meta-gaming. First invasion, then results, then we make peace and then we can talk about treaty.

Of course, right now only two nations know about the planned invasion...(Bavaria and NDC)

Hmm....how many men do you have in your army, and how many people can you have during maximum conscription?

[Shimon-Zhivago]

Because that's what's best for Bavaria right now...also the Bavarians hated Austria at this time, and they felt a stronger connection with Prussia (for some stupid reason)

....that.....WAIT A SECOND. What if we ally in secret, without your people or the NGC knowing?

By Bavarians, I also mean the leaders and generals...the one good thing about Bavaria was that it's government was truly in sync with the people...sorry, but General Pranckh can't wait to send the boys in Bayerische-Blau over the border...

[The Time Alliance]

America. Pay close attention you have to go through La Paca to get to any of my major cities according to past maps that I just looked up.

What's La Paca? Doesn't come up anywhere on the internet (Which you know, never lies), besides, I'm already near La Plata.

I meant LA PLATA.....Opps....Sorry

[Marsisian]

We can form a political alliance, and expand together into Africa. My navy and people, your training and resources.

I'd love to later on, but I'm not going to change my leader's mind instantly in game...that's sort of meta-gaming. First invasion, then results, then we make peace and then we can talk about treaty.

Of course, right now only two nations know about the planned invasion...(Bavaria and NDC)

I'd love to make an alliance with Austria-Hungary and Bavaria! My navy, and your navy, and Bavaria's army.

[Brissia]

....that.....WAIT A SECOND. What if we ally in secret, without your people or the NGC knowing?

By Bavarians, I also mean the leaders and generals...the one good thing about Bavaria was that it's government was truly in sync with the people...sorry, but General Pranckh can't wait to send the boys in Bayerische-Blau over the border...

Well than. Eh, just pointing this out: if the NGC enters the war, I'll basically automatically lose. They have a larger army, AND better training. Then there's you....bye-bye, Tirol.

[Brissia]

I'd love to later on, but I'm not going to change my leader's mind instantly in game...that's sort of meta-gaming. First invasion, then results, then we make peace and then we can talk about treaty.

Of course, right now only two nations know about the planned invasion...(Bavaria and NDC)

I'd love to make an alliance with Austria-Hungary and Bavaria! My navy, and your navy, and Bavaria's army.

More like your navy, my army, and Bavaria's military training.

[Shimon-Zhivago]

I'd love to later on, but I'm not going to change my leader's mind instantly in game...that's sort of meta-gaming. First invasion, then results, then we make peace and then we can talk about treaty.

Of course, right now only two nations know about the planned invasion...(Bavaria and NDC)

Hmm....how many men do you have in your army, and how many people can you have during maximum conscription?

These numbers don't include the Prussian allies I will have...

700,000 upon mobilization...about one million with conscription...

You totally outnumber us, but that's balanced out with Prussia being in the picture, as well as superior Bavarian equipment. That's why this is so much fun because both sides have roughly equal chance of winning. Or...maybe we will tie?

[Shimon-Zhivago]

By Bavarians, I also mean the leaders and generals...the one good thing about Bavaria was that it's government was truly in sync with the people...sorry, but General Pranckh can't wait to send the boys in Bayerische-Blau over the border...

Well than. Eh, just pointing this out: if the NGC enters the war, I'll basically automatically lose. They have a larger army, AND better training. Then there's you....bye-bye, Tirol.

You could put up quite a fight...plus the Tirolians don't want to be taken over...so I could find myself crushed, and Prussia would have to over-extend itself...who knows? Play your cards right and this could be the end of Bavaria.

[Gibberan]

I have to go now, but I'll be attacking La Plata soon. Cheers!

[Granadeseret]

Ah, frick
You know, If you ally with the NGC,it's USA+UK+NGC+Austria-Hungary+Bolivia

But that would throw off the balance of the game, making one side dominant...if Austria joins the alliance, the game is sort of over...I think that there should be a France-Russia-Italy-Austria-Turkey alliance, personally, to offset the Bavaria-NDC-UK-US one.

The Ottomans are not going to make an alliance with our sworn historical enemies (Russia and Austria) and upstarts who think they have some right to North Africa (Italy). That's just not something the Turks would do: non-aggression pacts, sure, but not alliances (WW I was really more "The friend of my friend is kind of my friend" The French we could do easily, but Turkey simply has stronger relations with Britain (They never tried to beat us up, and we built a strong friendship when they helped us in Crimea) and the Germans (We're basing our model of modernization about half way off of them, plus we've traditionally had the same rivals and complimentary interests)

Alliances really ought to make sense, after all. Not with nations have been trying to destroy you and vice versa for the past 3 centuries.

[Brissia]

Well than. Eh, just pointing this out: if the NGC enters the war, I'll basically automatically lose. They have a larger army, AND better training. Then there's you....bye-bye, Tirol.

You could put up quite a fight...plus the Tirolians don't want to be taken over...so I could find myself crushed, and Prussia would have to over-extend itself...who knows? Play your cards right and this could be the end of Bavaria.

Hmm....so, my main goal would be to take you out of the picture. Then I could negotiate with Germany.....
Well then, things seem to be looking up for me.

[The Time Alliance]

But that would throw off the balance of the game, making one side dominant...if Austria joins the alliance, the game is sort of over...I think that there should be a France-Russia-Italy-Austria-Turkey alliance, personally, to offset the Bavaria-NDC-UK-US one.

The Ottomans are not going to make an alliance with our sworn historical enemies (Russia and Austria) and upstarts who think they have some right to North Africa (Italy). That's just not something the Turks would do (WW I was really more "The friend of my friend is kind of my friend" The French we could do easily, but Turkey simply has stronger relations with Britain (They never tried to beat us up, and we built a strong friendship when they helped us in Crimea) and the Germans (We're basing our model of modernization about half way off of them, plus we've traditionally had the same rivals and complimentary interests)

Alliances really ought to make sense, after all.

Or you can ally Arge...No Im joking. But you could?

[Brissia]

But that would throw off the balance of the game, making one side dominant...if Austria joins the alliance, the game is sort of over...I think that there should be a France-Russia-Italy-Austria-Turkey alliance, personally, to offset the Bavaria-NDC-UK-US one.

The Ottomans are not going to make an alliance with our sworn historical enemies (Russia and Austria) and upstarts who think they have some right to North Africa (Italy). That's just not something the Turks would do (WW I was really more "The friend of my friend is kind of my friend" The French we could do easily, but Turkey simply has stronger relations with Britain (They never tried to beat us up, and we built a strong friendship when they helped us in Crimea) and the Germans (We're basing our model of modernization about half way off of them, plus we've traditionally had the same rivals and complimentary interests)

Alliances really ought to make sense, after all.

I just want to reassure you that Austria does not mean to expand more into the Balkans, and would rather be neutral with the Ottomans..until they fall apart, that is.

[Marsisian]

You could put up quite a fight...plus the Tirolians don't want to be taken over...so I could find myself crushed, and Prussia would have to over-extend itself...who knows? Play your cards right and this could be the end of Bavaria.

Hmm....so, my main goal would be to take you out of the picture. Then I could negotiate with Germany.....
Well then, things seem to be looking up for me.

Then i would move into Belgium…with a group of Belgians who hate the current Government, ah…the ideas i could do with Belgium...

[Waztaskio]

America. Pay close attention you have to go through La Paca to get to any of my major cities according to past maps that I just looked up.

Sun Tzu my friend, Sun Tzu the Art of War. Watch the documentary and you will win every battle against any invader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMNaULHLH9c

[Brissia]

Hmm....so, my main goal would be to take you out of the picture. Then I could negotiate with Germany.....
Well then, things seem to be looking up for me.

Then i would move into Belgium…with a group of Belgians who hate the current Government, ah…the ideas i could do with Belgium...

Actually, once the Bavarians are gone, I'm planning to make an alliance with Germany, then mess you up so hard you'll never go past the Dutch border again...excuse my vulgairty.


Anyway, it seems the Bavarians and Germans want Tirol and Bohemia, both situated to the west and north of the Empire. Interesting.

[Sibator]

Vietnam, France.....

My statement still stands. France only beat America once in war, and that was technically Canada. Vietnam forced the Americans to leave...once. Canada beat America three times.

What?

We have only even been "at war" with Canada once, and that was in 1812 when there wasn't a real Canada yet.

[Marsisian]

Then i would move into Belgium…with a group of Belgians who hate the current Government, ah…the ideas i could do with Belgium...

Actually, once the Bavarians are gone, I'm planning to make an alliance with Germany, then mess you up so hard you'll never go past the Dutch border again...excuse my vulgairty.


Anyway, it seems the Bavarians and Germans Tirol and Bohemia, both situated to the west and north of the Empire. Interesting.

Then i shall support the bavarians so, they will mess you up with your outdated army….do not excuse my vulgarity….

[Brissia]

Actually, once the Bavarians are gone, I'm planning to make an alliance with Germany, then mess you up so hard you'll never go past the Dutch border again...excuse my vulgairty.


Anyway, it seems the Bavarians and Germans Tirol and Bohemia, both situated to the west and north of the Empire. Interesting.

Then i shall support the bavarians so, they will mess you up with your outdated army….do not excuse my vulgarity….

You've just attacked Belgium, which lowers your popularity points, and you're not all that relevant. Plus, an alliance with Germany means I will gain access to better training techniques and equipment, thus modernizing my army significantly.

[Sibator]

Since when? I don't recall we ever went to war with Canada...

Queen Anne's War: American colonists invade French Canada. They lose. Later, Brits give us guns and a few hundred thousand troops, and we win (see 7-years-war)

American Revolution: Two attempts at taking over the populated part of Canada...both failed miserably with many casualties.

War of 1812: (see American Revolution)

Queen Anne's War: America was not a country, and all the forces that were fighting were under British control. That is the same as saying India beat Nazi Germany. Canada didn't exist either,
American Revolution: Rather pointless, since that theater of war was not at all the focus. The Founding Father cared much more about the British soldiers landing in Boston then nonsensical forays into Canada.

1812 is the only war that can be considered a Canadian victory over America, and that "Canada" was mostly populated by French colonists and American loyalists.

[Marsisian]

Then i shall support the bavarians so, they will mess you up with your outdated army….do not excuse my vulgarity….

You've just attacked Belgium, which lowers your popularity points, and you're not all that relevant. Plus, an alliance with Germany means I will gain access to better training techniques and equipment, thus modernizing my army significantly.

Why do people care about Belgium? Only you and the British responded. They should just let me invade...