Antiquity Rises Rampant DEAD.

[Sasutary Island]

Denied, you have no access to iron (as told by those whom colonies should be revoked( nor is there a greco roman culture near you.

I believe it shouldn't be an Anatolian exclusive. And it wasn't my ideas we should do colonies. I only talked about A.Minor ones which, historically were already made in this age

Hmm, i believe that the celts used iron very widely, at least thats what i read from this book on celts i have.

[DrakoBlaria]

The part where Greeks and Romans were living there

Since the celts were from southern-france they had some contact with the romans and the romans did have a hellenistic religion and those that were "romanised" went north to colonise/ settle bringing with them their religion and what not.

It is too early but oh well.
We have really fucked things up

[Quirina]

The part where Greeks and Romans were living there

Since the celts were from southern-france they had some contact with the romans and the romans did have a hellenistic religion and those that were "romanised" went north to colonise/ settle bringing with them their religion and what not.

Is your 'Normandy' must be in Europe? How come Asia Minor and the Greco-Roman world is involved in this? Two generations, Normans and Romans, are far to meet each other.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I believe it shouldn't be an Anatolian exclusive. And it wasn't my ideas we should do colonies. I only talked about A.Minor ones which, historically were already made in this age

Hmm, i believe that the celts used iron very widely, at least thats what i read from this book on celts i have.

According to those of whom I should revoke their colonies it needs to be taught from the Anatolians. Also, your theory is a no.

[Liecthenbourg]

Hmm, i believe that the celts used iron very widely, at least thats what i read from this book on celts i have.

According to those of whom I should revoke their colonies it needs to be taught from the Anatolians. Also, your theory is a no.

You could have a system, where for example it appears in Egypt in 1180 BC historically, around that time period the Egyptian players have access to it so on and so forth.
I'm speaking about iron here.

[Sasutary Island]

Since the celts were from southern-france they had some contact with the romans and the romans did have a hellenistic religion and those that were "romanised" went north to colonise/ settle bringing with them their religion and what not.

Is your 'Normandy' must be in Europe? How come Asia Minor and the Greco-Roman world is involved in this? Two generations, Normans and Romans, are far to meet each other.

You see, the celts were the ones that settled and the celts were from relatively the same time period. And if thats the case how is there religion other than animalists/ barbarian religions or pagans when its far back in the BC's? So technically the pantheon wasn't built yet (?)

[DrakoBlaria]

Well I don't think we should have made colonies in freaking Spain but revoking them would be weird... So, may I suggest that the "Sea People" rise and make our lifes difficult? Which means that travelling there would be harder and all that jazz

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Well I don't think we should have made colonies in freaking Spain but revoking them would be weird... So, may I suggest that the "Sea People" rise and make our lifes difficult? Which means that travelling there would be harder and all that jazz

Did I say revoke? Oh sorry, what I meant was take it from them.

[Quirina]

"Sea people?"

[Sasutary Island]

I say I say I say...
How bout i revoke that religion and say that the celts worship oak trees and remove the iron theory with saying that the celts used stone weaponry (or their willys *ahem*)

[Sasutary Island]

"Sea people?"

Pirates

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

I say I say I say...
How bout i revoke that religion and say that the celts worship oak trees and remove the iron theory with saying that the celts used stone weaponry (or their willys *ahem*)

Then it's now Acceted (MY DAMN p BUTTON IS NOT WORKING! SO IS THE ZERO!

[DrakoBlaria]

"Sea people?"

Mysterious people who appeared on the mediterenean and terrorised the area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples

Well I don't think we should have made colonies in freaking Spain but revoking them would be weird... So, may I suggest that the "Sea People" rise and make our lifes difficult? Which means that travelling there would be harder and all that jazz

Did I say revoke? Oh sorry, what I meant was take it from them.

Oh... *unseaths sword*. Dis gonna be gut!

[Sasutary Island]

I say I say I say...
How bout i revoke that religion and say that the celts worship oak trees and remove the iron theory with saying that the celts used stone weaponry (or their willys *ahem*)

Then it's now Acceted (MY DAMN p BUTTON IS NOT WORKING! SO IS THE ZERO!

Lol welcome to my world my zero dosent work

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I say I say I say...
How bout i revoke that religion and say that the celts worship oak trees and remove the iron theory with saying that the celts used stone weaponry (or their willys *ahem*)

Then it's now Acceted (MY DAMN p BUTTON IS NOT WORKING! SO IS THE ZERO!

What was that river in the Southern US again, the biggest in the country? Next to New Orleans...

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were plenty of rocks , which they found in the sides of mountains which , could be made into various tools. These soon replaced the wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.
The celts worship Oak Trees (For Some Odd REASON) which i call "OAKIANISM" who would like to convert?

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were plenty of rocks , which they found in the sides of mountains which , could be made into various tools. These soon replaced the wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.
The celts worship Oak Trees (For Some Odd REASON) which i call "OAKIANISM" who would like to convert?

How is it now?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were plenty of rocks , which they found in the sides of mountains which , could be made into various tools. These soon replaced the wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.
The celts worship Oak Trees (For Some Odd REASON) which i call "OAKIANISM" who would like to convert?

How is it now?

Come on in, but don't rolelay like the guy who icked "mirca"

[G-Tech Corporation]

Sounds like fun

It will mostly fuck with those who have an unfair advantage on others and elevate those who are weaker than others.

Eh, I'm really not trying to claim an unfair advantage, just be realistic. The reason iron-working developed in central Anatolia was because of the rich iron deposits in the region and the difficulty of importing tin from as far away as Iberia, making bronze manufacture untenable. The technology spread due to the near destruction of the Hittites and disruption of tin trade routes in the Med by the migration of the Sea Peoples who came from the Crimea.

Historically, in this day and age, bronze is king. Iron is weaker, harder to get, and less useful. I'm using it as it was used historically; as a supplement to bronze, a weaker armor for less-trained soldiers. The only reason everyone has a problem with me claiming iron as rather Anatolian specific [which, I should note, only refers in my mind to the bloomery smelting process- using meteoric iron was well known throughout the ancient world] is because we all OOCly know that iron will become very useful in approximately two thousand years.

That strikes me as metagaming, as I'm using iron in it's historical context, where it is plentiful, for valid IC reasons. Those who have a problem with this seen to want it for OOC reasons, to my mind.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Well I don't think we should have made colonies in freaking Spain but revoking them would be weird... So, may I suggest that the "Sea People" rise and make our lifes difficult? Which means that travelling there would be harder and all that jazz

Eh, the Phoenicians IRL had colonies in Gibraltar by 1200 IRL, significant city-colonies. I don't think I've been stretching my historical sailing range, just being a bit expansive within it.

[Sasutary Island]

How is it now?

Come on in, but don't rolelay like the guy who icked "mirca"

thanks but what's micra?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Come on in, but don't rolelay like the guy who icked "mirca"

thanks but what's micra?

some Korean nation state that he named because "it sounds cooler."

[Sasutary Island]

thanks but what's micra?

some Korean nation state that he named because "it sounds cooler."

lol, but it does have a nice ring to it. Easily said.

[Sasutary Island]

who's the lime guy in belgium?

[DrakoBlaria]

Well I don't think we should have made colonies in freaking Spain but revoking them would be weird... So, may I suggest that the "Sea People" rise and make our lifes difficult? Which means that travelling there would be harder and all that jazz

Eh, the Phoenicians IRL had colonies in Gibraltar by 1200 IRL, significant city-colonies. I don't think I've been stretching my historical sailing range, just being a bit expansive within it.

Oh, 1200 BC? Really? Wow. Go ahead then