Antiquity Rises Rampant DEAD.

[Elerian]

Adurnak who are the tribes to the east?

The blank spots on the map to the east of me, don't worry, I'm not attacking anyone who's RPing just yet

Alright good you had me scared a bit there.

[The Nation of Hay]

Based on population estimates of Ancient Egypt around this time, I'd say my population is around 2.5-3.5 million. I'd say the Ameralites and the Mesopotamians probably have a pretty similar number, and everyone else being lower. I'd guess that your population, Drako, given that you have a smaller nation, would probably be 1-2 million? I'd probably say about the same or less for Adurnak.

Haha oh wow, in the ic I said my pop was 14, 000 and I wondered if that was too much

I could be wrong, the only numbers (accurate or not) I could find say that the global population was around 50 million in 1000 BC, and that the population of Egypt was around 3 million in 1000 BC. I couldn't really find anything about Greece or Mesopotamia (or Iberia, for that matter), so I just figured those based on the fertility and natural resources available in the areas. And again, I could be drastically wrong

[Quirina]

Anyone here who controls Taiwan? I want to establish trade relations with a Chinese state.

[Sebtopiaris]

Anyone here who controls Taiwan? I want to establish trade relations with a Chinese state.

I control Taiwan, and, luckily for you, I'm a trading people from Southern China.

[The Magnified Union of Aligned Communes]

Anyone here who controls Taiwan? I want to establish trade relations with a Chinese state.

Sebt's Heliulia has colonies on Taiwan. However, I'd imagine that they're largely still small settlements trading with natives, like the early colonies in the Americas. Their seafaring tech is pretty good, but it's a bit of a stretch to assume that Taiwan is bustling.
Speaking of maritime tech, it would be even harder for your lot to reach Taiwan. Not impossible, maybe, but it'd be seasick explorers rather than seasoned traders who first land in Taiwan.

May I suggest we stop the tech BS? Just cause in our timeline the Hites were the Iron masters it doesn't mean the men with control over their teritorry in this RP will also have that tech. As long as we have the resources and a certain year is passed we should be able to advance if anyone else does.

When did the iron age begin in china?

Iron began to be smelted in small quantities somewhere in the later Zhou Dynasty (early in the first millennium BC), and became more prevalent by the time of the great civil war.
It's worth noting that expendable items like arrowheads continued to be made of bone and stone till then, too. Also, bronze continued to be extensively used throughout the first millennium BC; Chinese bronze technology was pretty well developed. Their bronze swords were harder, though more brittle, than those of the west.

Though as G-Tech says, this isn't real history, nor is it Civ!

Nah, that wasn't the problem. He was confused because of the word "Hay". He is "The Nation of Hay".

This

I see.

[Sebtopiaris]

Anyone here who controls Taiwan? I want to establish trade relations with a Chinese state.

Sebt's Heliulia has colonies on Taiwan. However, I'd imagine that they're largely still small settlements trading with natives, like the early colonies in the Americas. Their seafaring tech is pretty good, but it's a bit of a stretch to assume that Taiwan is bustling.
Speaking of maritime tech, it would be even harder for your lot to reach Taiwan. Not impossible, maybe, but it'd be seasick explorers rather than seasoned traders who first land in Taiwan.

They may be small now, but in a few centuries... *begins laughing evilly and devising trade schemes*.

[Quirina]

Sebt's Heliulia has colonies on Taiwan. However, I'd imagine that they're largely still small settlements trading with natives, like the early colonies in the Americas. Their seafaring tech is pretty good, but it's a bit of a stretch to assume that Taiwan is bustling.
Speaking of maritime tech, it would be even harder for your lot to reach Taiwan. Not impossible, maybe, but it'd be seasick explorers rather than seasoned traders who first land in Taiwan.

They may be small now, but in a few centuries... *begins laughing evilly and devising trade schemes*.

I sent some peeps there to start trade with you. Mehe

[Sebtopiaris]

They may be small now, but in a few centuries... *begins laughing evilly and devising trade schemes*.

I sent some peeps there to start trade with you. Mehe

Yay! but shouldn't you be posting this in the IC. Also, a still claim all Taiwanese land, so your traders are merely visitors, not settlers.

[Quirina]

I sent some peeps there to start trade with you. Mehe

Yay! but shouldn't you be posting this in the IC. Also, a still claim all Taiwanese land, so your traders are merely visitors, not settlers.

I know. I'll post about it later. They come to trade with you, not to settle.

EDIT: Here's the map with my land (N Philippines) with it. I'm Kalusunan.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdhdnm7wal7wf ... ty-1.png?m

[Adurnak]

Technology isn't universal though; it never has been. Do you think Persian phalanxes are just going to appear as soon as Alexander's time comes? Or that Iberians will use claymores?

Falcata's ftw though hahaha

[Great Kleomentia]

Dat g-tech territory.

[DrakoBlaria]

May I suggest we stop the tech BS? Just cause in our timeline the Hites were the Iron masters it doesn't mean the men with control over their teritorry in this RP will also have that tech. As long as we have the resources and a certain year is passed we should be able to advance if anyone else does.

Technology isn't universal though; it never has been. Do you think Persian phalanxes are just going to appear as soon as Alexander's time comes? Or that Iberians will use claymores?

Still it is giving certain people unfair advantages, and since this is alt-history it doesn't make sense for technology to appear in certain places

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Technology isn't universal though; it never has been. Do you think Persian phalanxes are just going to appear as soon as Alexander's time comes? Or that Iberians will use claymores?

Still it is giving certain people unfair advantages, and since this is alt-history it doesn't make sense for technology to appear in certain places

To offset that advantage I will now make random events every so often. The events may go from the natives burning your colony down, spreading of knowledge, and even bountiful harvests/famine.

[DrakoBlaria]

Still it is giving certain people unfair advantages, and since this is alt-history it doesn't make sense for technology to appear in certain places

To offset that advantage I will now make random events every so often. The events may go from the natives burning your colony down, spreading of knowledge, and even bountiful harvests/famine.

Sounds like fun

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

To offset that advantage I will now make random events every so often. The events may go from the natives burning your colony down, spreading of knowledge, and even bountiful harvests/famine.

Sounds like fun

It will mostly fuck with those who have an unfair advantage on others and elevate those who are weaker than others.

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):War, Heavily Reliant on Knights
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: The Normans Were From Norway And Acquired land In France After Pushing The Local Populace Out And Building Fortified Towns. Ever Since Horses Were Used In Combat The Normans Have Been At The Forefront of Using Knights and Iron Weaponry. King William I Of Normandy Consolidated His Foothold In Northern France By Incorporation The Local Tribes And Forming The Duchy Of Normandy.
Culture: The Normans Have A Rich Culture In Horse-Riding And Farming. When They First Arrived In Normandy They tamed The Horses There Which Allowed Them To Take over Large Amounts Of Land Very Quickly. The Normans Are Polite And Kind-hearted, even To Their Enemies. Yearly Large Feasts Are Held At The Duke's Hall, Everyone Is Invited.

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):War, Heavily Reliant on Knights
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: The Normans Were From Norway And Acquired land In France After Pushing The Local Populace Out And Building Fortified Towns. Ever Since Horses Were Used In Combat The Normans Have Been At The Forefront of Using Knights and Iron Weaponry. King William I Of Normandy Consolidated His Foothold In Northern France By Incorporation The Local Tribes And Forming The Duchy Of Normandy.
Culture: The Normans Have A Rich Culture In Horse-Riding And Farming. When They First Arrived In Normandy They tamed The Horses There Which Allowed Them To Take over Large Amounts Of Land Very Quickly. The Normans Are Polite And Kind-hearted, even To Their Enemies. Yearly Large Feasts Are Held At The Duke's Hall, Everyone Is Invited.

Denied, Firstly Cease Writing Like This. Secondly, This Is In 1259 BC.

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):War, Heavily Reliant on Knights
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: The Normans Were From Norway And Acquired land In France After Pushing The Local Populace Out And Building Fortified Towns. Ever Since Horses Were Used In Combat The Normans Have Been At The Forefront of Using Knights and Iron Weaponry. King William I Of Normandy Consolidated His Foothold In Northern France By Incorporation The Local Tribes And Forming The Duchy Of Normandy.
Culture: The Normans Have A Rich Culture In Horse-Riding And Farming. When They First Arrived In Normandy They tamed The Horses There Which Allowed Them To Take over Large Amounts Of Land Very Quickly. The Normans Are Polite And Kind-hearted, even To Their Enemies. Yearly Large Feasts Are Held At The Duke's Hall, Everyone Is Invited.

Denied, Firstly Cease Writing Like This. Secondly, This Is In 1259 BC.

Ah i see, its just a habit and i'll change it both (the app and my habit)

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were stocks of shiny metal, iron, which they found in the sides of mountains which when melted, could be moulded into various shapes and forms. These soon replaced the stone and wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.

Greco-Roman Hellenistic is widely practiced as the greeks and romans lived very close to the early settlers, and the celts embraced this new religion with relative ease.

[DrakoBlaria]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were stocks of shiny metal, iron, which they found in the sides of mountains which when melted, could be moulded into various shapes and forms. These soon replaced the stone and wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.

Greco-Roman Hellenistic is widely practiced as the greeks and romans lived very close to the early settlers, and the celts embraced this new religion with relative ease.

The Greco-Roman part doesn't make much sense

[Sasutary Island]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were stocks of shiny metal, iron, which they found in the sides of mountains which when melted, could be moulded into various shapes and forms. These soon replaced the stone and wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.

Greco-Roman Hellenistic is widely practiced as the greeks and romans lived very close to the early settlers, and the celts embraced this new religion with relative ease.

The Greco-Roman part doesn't make much sense

Which Part?

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were stocks of shiny metal, iron, which they found in the sides of mountains which when melted, could be moulded into various shapes and forms. These soon replaced the stone and wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.

Greco-Roman Hellenistic is widely practiced as the greeks and romans lived very close to the early settlers, and the celts embraced this new religion with relative ease.

Denied, you have no access to iron (as told by those whom colonies should be revoked( nor is there a greco roman culture near you.

[DrakoBlaria]

The Greco-Roman part doesn't make much sense

Which Part?

The part where Greeks and Romans were living there

[DrakoBlaria]

Name of Civilization: Normandy
Location:(Image)
Specialty (warfare, farming, trade, etc):Warfare
Nomad or Settled: Settled
History: A few Celt settlers from Southern France came and founded a settlement near the coast due to its serenity and abundant stocks of fish. There were stocks of shiny metal, iron, which they found in the sides of mountains which when melted, could be moulded into various shapes and forms. These soon replaced the stone and wood weapons that the celts used before and proved to be more efficient, durable and helped a lot during hunting expeditions. A chieftain rounded up all the other local tribes and in a meeting which lasted 2 nights, they founded a small kingdom, a kingdom which they called Normandy.
Culture: The Celtic origin in Normandy is seen everywhere. Small villages dot the countryside instead of cave dwellings. Their iron weapons helped them take over a lot of the neighbouring tribes. Iron has really helped the Celts develop a militaristic ideology and the young are eager to fight. Most are religious and worship the hellenistic gods, giving a sacrifice before going into battles. Every town, hamlet or city has its own seer and the celts take their words very seriously. The celts have used boats for quite a while but ships have never been their strong point.

Greco-Roman Hellenistic is widely practiced as the greeks and romans lived very close to the early settlers, and the celts embraced this new religion with relative ease.

Denied, you have no access to iron (as told by those whom colonies should be revoked( nor is there a greco roman culture near you.

I believe it shouldn't be an Anatolian exclusive. And it wasn't my ideas we should do colonies. I only talked about A.Minor ones which, historically were already made in this age

[Sasutary Island]

Which Part?

The part where Greeks and Romans were living there

Since the celts were from southern-france they had some contact with the romans and the romans did have a hellenistic religion and those that were "romanised" went north to colonise/ settle bringing with them their religion and what not.