im sorry? who soldiers died in millions during operation barbaossa
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by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:26 pm
by Petrovia- » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:58 pm
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by The imperial canadian dutchy » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:30 pm
Petrovia- wrote:The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
im sorry? who soldiers died in millions during operation barbaossa
I'm sorry, who couldn't win a single battle in Africa until the Germans came along? Seriously, you guys lost to the BRITISH, who were getting their ass kicked by both the Germans and Japanese. The British were bad, the Italians were worse. You picked a fight you couldn't win, then went crying to Germany for help. Hell, even Hitler eventually realized Mussolini, and Italy as a whole, was a waste of perfectly good resources.
You guys did worse than the British, and that's saying something.
by Saragrossa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:39 pm
Petrovia- wrote:The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:
im sorry? who soldiers died in millions during operation barbaossa
I'm sorry, who couldn't win a single battle in Africa until the Germans came along? Seriously, you guys lost to the BRITISH, who were getting their ass kicked by both the Germans and Japanese. The British were bad, the Italians were worse. You picked a fight you couldn't win, then went crying to Germany for help. Hell, even Hitler eventually realized Mussolini, and Italy as a whole, was a waste of perfectly good resources.
You guys did worse than the British, and that's saying something.
by Saragrossa » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:11 am
by Petrovia- » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:38 pm
Saragrossa wrote:Petrovia- wrote:
I'm sorry, who couldn't win a single battle in Africa until the Germans came along? Seriously, you guys lost to the BRITISH, who were getting their ass kicked by both the Germans and Japanese. The British were bad, the Italians were worse. You picked a fight you couldn't win, then went crying to Germany for help. Hell, even Hitler eventually realized Mussolini, and Italy as a whole, was a waste of perfectly good resources.
You guys did worse than the British, and that's saying something.
You realize Germany had assembled the largest army in the world that was hardened and best equipped against the Russians who purged their officers but were in the middle of the reorganizing their military.
Russia was going to attack Germany but in 1945-47 time frame but Germans hit first because they had to
Second of all about 2/3rds of Russia's loses in spite of popular believe of the penal legions were civilians who were systemically slaughtered for being sub human.
Russia's military loses were 20-30% higher then Germany. Initially it was 50% off but once the Germans lost their army and started pulling their men from civilians who weren't soldiers then the overwhelming superiority of German training was obsolete and they had comparable loses.
Just the Germans managed to kill 15-20 million civilians in cold blood which obsecures thee military losses including allies was 4.2 million service men plus another 700k - 1.1 million dead in pow compared to ussrs
Russians were 12.18 million of which 4.4-5.2 million died in internment camps
However the Russians included wounded in their KIA since they weren't combat effective in contrast to the axis who listed solely as MIA
So yeah Italy sucks balls lol
by Saragrossa » Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:04 pm
by Petrovia- » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:01 am
Saragrossa wrote:The best army was like England, they had the lowest mortality rate in their professional troops.
Conscripts however thats a different ball game but Italy sucked like they had a 45% death rate in their Professional troops, England was like 8% lol, Russia was 34%, Germany is 56%, etc. China's professional force had a staggering 91% death rate ( mostly because of battle of shanghai )
by The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:12 am
Petrovia- wrote:Saragrossa wrote:The best army was like England, they had the lowest mortality rate in their professional troops.
Conscripts however thats a different ball game but Italy sucked like they had a 45% death rate in their Professional troops, England was like 8% lol, Russia was 34%, Germany is 56%, etc. China's professional force had a staggering 91% death rate ( mostly because of battle of shanghai )
Britain had one of the worst armies dude, they couldn't even re-take Burma until an American officers arrived.
by The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:18 pm
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:Petrovia- wrote:
Britain had one of the worst armies dude, they couldn't even re-take Burma until an American officers arrived.
I'm Scottish and don't really affiliate myself with the rest of the UK and I will admit that the British Army was terrible, but the navy and the airforce were among the best.
by Abasha » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:08 am
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by The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:01 am
by Petrovia- » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:01 am
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:My post is pretty shitty, but it's the best I've got in me right now.
by The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:08 am
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by Saragrossa » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:04 pm
by Petrovia- » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:36 pm
Saragrossa wrote:i am still here, i hate double posting
by Abasha » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm
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by Petrovia- » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:07 am
Dangelia wrote:Well, for one thing. We need a new OOC and a new Illyria. Once we have that, we can continue with this RP.
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