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by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:24 pm

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:35 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:The main battlefield is outside the city. I obviously couldn't deploy 60k soldiers in the city. That's where we've been fighting. Inside the city are 1200 Hellenic Army soldiers initially left behind to guard the weapons, but now deployed behind a barricade while the mariners guard the weapons. Your navy controls the harbor and you're taking your naval soldiers off the ship to attack my soldiers inside the city. Your infantry and tanks were approaching my lines while I lobbed grenades and shot machine guns and artillery at your men and tanks. Now you are saying that you took your tanks away from the main battlefield to attack my troops in the city, correct? I'll try to get a Google Map up soon, if you'll be patient with me and help.
Here's what I have so far: https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=z0b0Dn5oN1OA.knvENwVKfZNs Tell me if you can't access it.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:38 pm

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:44 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:You should have access now.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:51 pm

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:56 pm

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:59 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Here's a link to information about tanks in cities.
http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/21/The_ ... es_Part_I/

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:00 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Here's a link to information about tanks in cities.
http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/21/The_ ... es_Part_I/
Also, I love how you deleted my city defenders' point. Put it back. We haven't resolved anything yet.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:01 pm

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:02 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Dammit, Dangelia! You said we weren't going to post in the IC until everything got resolved! You were the last one to post, so it's my turn to respond! After I respond to your post, then you can post again.

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:03 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Dammit, Dangelia! You said we weren't going to post in the IC until everything got resolved! You were the last one to post, so it's my turn to respond! After I respond to your post, then you can post again. Also, did you even look at the link I posted? It basically says that in WWII, American tanks were to avoid fighting in the cities unless they were absolutely necessary, because it made them vulnerable.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:07 pm
Dangelia wrote:Nova Anglicana wrote:Dammit, Dangelia! You said we weren't going to post in the IC until everything got resolved! You were the last one to post, so it's my turn to respond! After I respond to your post, then you can post again. Also, did you even look at the link I posted? It basically says that in WWII, American tanks were to avoid fighting in the cities unless they were absolutely necessary, because it made them vulnerable.
I know, those tanks are know on the other side of the city, by the shore. Outside of the streets.

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:09 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Dangelia wrote:I know, those tanks are know on the other side of the city, by the shore. Outside of the streets.
The barricade is in the city. In the streets. You can't go around the city to get to it. You have to go through it. I'm not saying your tanks didn't get to the barricade, I'm saying that they are now in the city, where they are more vulnerable and less mobile. Also, you can't just let your army retreat. If you were advancing, and then sent some of your force to the city, and ordered the others to turn around and retreat, then you're vulnerable, not only to my fire, but also to the tens of thousands of Greek troops at your back. If you cut your army in two, then what's left will be slaughtered by the overwhelming numbers you're facing.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:11 pm
Dangelia wrote:Nova Anglicana wrote:
The barricade is in the city. In the streets. You can't go around the city to get to it. You have to go through it. I'm not saying your tanks didn't get to the barricade, I'm saying that they are now in the city, where they are more vulnerable and less mobile. Also, you can't just let your army retreat. If you were advancing, and then sent some of your force to the city, and ordered the others to turn around and retreat, then you're vulnerable, not only to my fire, but also to the tens of thousands of Greek troops at your back. If you cut your army in two, then what's left will be slaughtered by the overwhelming numbers you're facing.
I know. They broke the barricade. Killed the Greeks by the barricade. And continued to the other side of the city. Just make your IC post so we can continue.

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:12 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Dangelia wrote:I know. They broke the barricade. Killed the Greeks by the barricade. And continued to the other side of the city. Just make your IC post so we can continue.
I'm saying that your force that was left over when you sent your tanks into the city could not possibly have retreated to Nartë. They would have been killed.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:16 pm
Dangelia wrote:Nova Anglicana wrote:
I'm saying that your force that was left over when you sent your tanks into the city could not possibly have retreated to Nartë. They would have been killed.
First, some of the tanks left. Than a couple minutes later. My force retreated to Nartë. I'm not denying that that force by Vlorë suffered considerable damage.

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:19 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:Dangelia wrote:First, some of the tanks left. Than a couple minutes later. My force retreated to Nartë. I'm not denying that that force by Vlorë suffered considerable damage.
If they managed to retreat at all, you've got maybe a thousand troops left over. And no artillery. You have to remember, when your militia retreated, you were left with perhaps 10k professional soldiers, not counting the ones killed or wounded in action before the militia retreated. You were facing probably 50k Greek soldiers. You advanced into a hail of bullet and artillery fire, then sent some of your forces away, which generously put you at 7k soldiers. Then you told what was left to retreat. An overwhelmingly superior numerical force would not have allowed such a retreat to pass unharmed. We probably pursued you as you retreated, causing further damage.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:24 pm
Dangelia wrote:Nova Anglicana wrote:
If they managed to retreat at all, you've got maybe a thousand troops left over. And no artillery. You have to remember, when your militia retreated, you were left with perhaps 10k professional soldiers, not counting the ones killed or wounded in action before the militia retreated. You were facing probably 50k Greek soldiers. You advanced into a hail of bullet and artillery fire, then sent some of your forces away, which generously put you at 7k soldiers. Then you told what was left to retreat. An overwhelmingly superior numerical force would not have allowed such a retreat to pass unharmed. We probably pursued you as you retreated, causing further damage.
Yeah. Around 3,000 soldiers retreated to Nartë.

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:48 pm

by Dangelia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:52 pm
Nova Anglicana wrote:What's the strength of your partisan force moving from Sevaster? And your force moving from Central Albania?

by Nova Anglicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:54 pm
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