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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:51 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
Caltarania wrote:Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo


I can into reserve the green in the middle east?

http://i.imgur.com/yeuVQXF.png

I was literally about to reserve some of that.
:shock:

Could I have any of Iraq? I'd like to reserve a bigass Iran (Iran + Caucasus, border Arabia, Afghan/Pakistan areas [some], central Asia, etc.

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The Vekta-Helghast Empire
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:04 am

Alleniana wrote:
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
I can into reserve the green in the middle east?

http://i.imgur.com/yeuVQXF.png

I was literally about to reserve some of that.
:shock:

Could I have any of Iraq? I'd like to reserve a bigass Iran (Iran + Caucasus, border Arabia, Afghan/Pakistan areas [some], central Asia, etc.


Sure.

http://i.imgur.com/jxc4IdB.png

Bettur?

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Great Kleomentia
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:15 am

Valentir wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Anyone who has enough patience for that job has all my respect.

Hey Kleo!

Hey Val! Long time no see, how ya been?
hue

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:25 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I was literally about to reserve some of that.
:shock:

Could I have any of Iraq? I'd like to reserve a bigass Iran (Iran + Caucasus, border Arabia, Afghan/Pakistan areas [some], central Asia, etc.


Sure.

http://i.imgur.com/jxc4IdB.png

Bettur?

Hmm, sure, I guess. Thanks.

Mai clayems
http://i.imgur.com/XZdyg4m.png

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:29 am

Caltarania wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:
lel

I've never liked playing as UK in both ETW and Vicky 2. Although I haven't tried it in EU IV.


ETW is quite fun, actually. It's quite hard because you have to deal with the Thirteen-Goddamn-Colonies who always drag you into war with the Iroquois, who I always try to ally in order to get one over the French.

Vicky 2 is kinda boring. Too stronk, just roll over everyone.

EU4 is fun. Especially playing as Scotland and trying to form GB. Very hard, unless you get France to beat up England :P

EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P

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Great Kleomentia
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:32 am

Alleniana wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
ETW is quite fun, actually. It's quite hard because you have to deal with the Thirteen-Goddamn-Colonies who always drag you into war with the Iroquois, who I always try to ally in order to get one over the French.

Vicky 2 is kinda boring. Too stronk, just roll over everyone.

EU4 is fun. Especially playing as Scotland and trying to form GB. Very hard, unless you get France to beat up England :P

EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P

The problem with EU is the constant backstabbing done by the AI. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, they will attack you for no reason whatsoever. And the only reason that is because they wanted to make it harder for the player but lacked the knowledge to construct a good AI.

For instance, in my Burgundy game i have been attacked 3 times in 10 years by France even though i have good relations and a royal marriage with them. Such realism, very wow.
hue

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:55 am

Alleniana wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
ETW is quite fun, actually. It's quite hard because you have to deal with the Thirteen-Goddamn-Colonies who always drag you into war with the Iroquois, who I always try to ally in order to get one over the French.

Vicky 2 is kinda boring. Too stronk, just roll over everyone.

EU4 is fun. Especially playing as Scotland and trying to form GB. Very hard, unless you get France to beat up England :P

EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P


I'm pretty sure I could sue Paradox for the amount of stress they've caused me.

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P

The problem with EU is the constant backstabbing done by the AI. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, they will attack you for no reason whatsoever. And the only reason that is because they wanted to make it harder for the player but lacked the knowledge to construct a good AI.

For instance, in my Burgundy game i have been attacked 3 times in 10 years by France even though i have good relations and a royal marriage with them. Such realism, very wow.


The important thing to remember is that it's just an AI.

AI's are hard to make, and considering it is basically a fuck tonne of computer algorithms (and I mean like literally a fuck tonne for each AI, and a game like CK2 has... oh, just oh so many AI's), it's hard to make it 'human'.

Same with fucking ugly borders. I swear to god when the USA colonizes British Columbia in Victoria 2 I rage so fucking hard...
I'M FROM KYLARIS, AND I'M HERE TO HELP!

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Great Kleomentia
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:59 am

Caltarania wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:The problem with EU is the constant backstabbing done by the AI. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, they will attack you for no reason whatsoever. And the only reason that is because they wanted to make it harder for the player but lacked the knowledge to construct a good AI.

For instance, in my Burgundy game i have been attacked 3 times in 10 years by France even though i have good relations and a royal marriage with them. Such realism, very wow.


The important thing to remember is that it's just an AI.

AI's are hard to make, and considering it is basically a fuck tonne of computer algorithms (and I mean like literally a fuck tonne for each AI, and a game like CK2 has... oh, just oh so many AI's), it's hard to make it 'human'.

Same with fucking ugly borders. I swear to god when the USA colonizes British Columbia in Victoria 2 I rage so fucking hard...

To be fair in EU they've just been re-releasing the same game four times. Little actual improvement has been done. Instead of making EUIII and EUIV as massive AI failures they could have just spent all that time writing one good game. Still, i do enjoy playing Paradox games a lot. I love them even with all their flaws. Currently im doing a Muscowy campaign in EUIII, and its going pretty good. I've took all land which the Russians live in and i also own half of Scandinavia and have crowned myself emperor. Now its time to buttrape the rest of eastern Europe :D
hue

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Etzopia
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Founded: Jul 03, 2014
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Postby Etzopia » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:09 am

Could I join this group?
Proud member of the International United Defense Coalition.

IUDC.
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:35 am

Etzopia wrote:Could I join this group?

Yes, ignore the last 5 pages of bickering over map reservations please.

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Indo-pasif archipelago
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Postby Indo-pasif archipelago » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Indo-pasif archipelago wrote:Yeah. Everything is ready, except the battles mechanic(s).


Do you intend to fully quantify battle, or use mainly RPing?

Iintend for a battle that count not only raw power, but also the starategy rp'ed by the player.
I picked the Anarchist Hog

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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:46 am

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Valentir wrote:Hey Kleo!

Hey Val! Long time no see, how ya been?

Pretty good. You?


Caltarania wrote:Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo

Can you the Upper half of Utah to my land plox?

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:58 am

Valentir wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Hey Val! Long time no see, how ya been?

Pretty good. You?


Caltarania wrote:Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo

Can you the Upper half of Utah to my land plox?


Yeah sure I totally know where Utah is! Sheesh why would you even assume otherwise?

Seriously, though, I kinda messed around with that and it looked kinda ugly honestly but okay.

I'm thinking of adding Vinland as a colony, opinions?
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Rephesus
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Postby Rephesus » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:59 am

Caltarania wrote:I'm thinking of adding Vinland as a colony, opinions?


Plausible. Unlike most reservations :P

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:01 am

Rephesus wrote:
Caltarania wrote:I'm thinking of adding Vinland as a colony, opinions?


Plausible. Unlike most reservations :P


I don't think plausiblitity is the problem in this RP, actually.

I mean, so far no one has claimed a Saharan Caliphate with Western tech or anything stupid like that. I think the main problem is conflicting claims and massive blobs. Although I guess I'm being quite hypocrtical because Sweden controls literally everything north of Kiel and has colonies in Asia, Africa and Australia. xD
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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:03 am

So did the OP shoot down my idea of early Manifest Destiny?

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:06 am

Valentir wrote:So did the OP shoot down my idea of early Manifest Destiny?


I guess?

But I mean he did say that Mexico would be gaining independence and that you could, in your first post even, take the Oregon Territory.




So due to a hella lot of conflicting claims, I'm going to take some 'creative liberties' with the map. Probably will get shouted at by everyone, but y'know I'm in a good mood.
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Valentir
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Postby Valentir » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:08 am

Caltarania wrote:
Valentir wrote:So did the OP shoot down my idea of early Manifest Destiny?


I guess?

But I mean he did say that Mexico would be gaining independence and that you could, in your first post even, take the Oregon Territory.




So due to a hella lot of conflicting claims, I'm going to take some 'creative liberties' with the map. Probably will get shouted at by everyone, but y'know I'm in a good mood.

Hmm, alright. I'm more than certain I could kick Mexico's arse.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:08 am

Caltarania wrote:
Alleniana wrote:EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P


I'm pretty sure I could sue Paradox for the amount of stress they've caused me.

Great Kleomentia wrote:The problem with EU is the constant backstabbing done by the AI. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, they will attack you for no reason whatsoever. And the only reason that is because they wanted to make it harder for the player but lacked the knowledge to construct a good AI.

For instance, in my Burgundy game i have been attacked 3 times in 10 years by France even though i have good relations and a royal marriage with them. Such realism, very wow.


The important thing to remember is that it's just an AI.

AI's are hard to make, and considering it is basically a fuck tonne of computer algorithms (and I mean like literally a fuck tonne for each AI, and a game like CK2 has... oh, just oh so many AI's), it's hard to make it 'human'.

Same with fucking ugly borders. I swear to god when the USA colonizes British Columbia in Victoria 2 I rage so fucking hard...

:P
I frankly don't mind the borders much, but having stupid little enclaves of little countries with big friends is really annoying. Nothing more fun than to go in there as Ottomans, "fuck yo' allies" and rip up the Balkans with Holy War, but most other countries, a lot of time is spent dodging webs and forming your own.
Etzopia wrote:Could I join this group?

Sure!
Great Kleomentia wrote:
Alleniana wrote:EU4 can be pretty annoying; I united Scandinavia, had the biggest/strongest colonial nation in the world, owned lots of periphery (Baltic blobs scattered about, Holstein, Iceland, Finland, etc.) and had never lost a war except against Russia, where I lost some Finnish provinces. Yet, England, which had done basically nothing but some colonisation, was stronger. This was late 1600s.

Played as England instead; got slammed with war with France, which is normal, then war with Scotland (admittedly my fault), then Wars of the Roses, then general stupidly high instability in general, then Reformation (had to go Reformed), all the while concerned about baying wolves at my door. I gave up after even my colonial attempts kept floundering. :P

The problem with EU is the constant backstabbing done by the AI. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, they will attack you for no reason whatsoever. And the only reason that is because they wanted to make it harder for the player but lacked the knowledge to construct a good AI.

For instance, in my Burgundy game i have been attacked 3 times in 10 years by France even though i have good relations and a royal marriage with them. Such realism, very wow.

To be frank, that's not surprising. France seems to be unable to live with the very existence of Burgundy; a game as Burgundy is basically a game spent trying to nerf France.

I haven't had too much of that problem otherwise.

Anyway, my Iran reservation noted?

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:10 am

Valentir wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I guess?

But I mean he did say that Mexico would be gaining independence and that you could, in your first post even, take the Oregon Territory.




So due to a hella lot of conflicting claims, I'm going to take some 'creative liberties' with the map. Probably will get shouted at by everyone, but y'know I'm in a good mood.

Hmm, alright. I'm more than certain I could kick Mexico's arse.


Also, Conch only specified the Gulf of St. Lawrence area (+NS and NFL and Lab) in his claims (though I gave him the Toronto area because honestly it'd be OP if I had that as well) so you could very well expand northwards into unclaimed Canada (though it'd piss of the Swedes and Vinland).
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Valentir
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Valentir » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:10 am

Would anyone object to the Kingdom of the United States?

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:14 am

Valentir wrote:Would anyone object to the Kingdom of the United States?


I mean the name is counter-intuitive but eh. Kingdom of 'Muricaland.
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Postby Valentir » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:15 am

Caltarania wrote:
Valentir wrote:Would anyone object to the Kingdom of the United States?


I mean the name is counter-intuitive but eh. Kingdom of 'Muricaland.

The Kingdum of Gurd-Gunz-Noterxeslandia.

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:18 am

Valentir wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I mean the name is counter-intuitive but eh. Kingdom of 'Muricaland.

The Kingdum of Gurd-Gunz-Noterxeslandia.


In all seriousness, I think a nation spanning the third of a continent would declare itself some sort of Empire.

The Empire of Columbia?
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Postby The New Lowlands » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:23 am

Valentir wrote:Would anyone object to the Kingdom of the United States?

I did something like that, once. c:
Caltarania wrote:
Valentir wrote:The Kingdum of Gurd-Gunz-Noterxeslandia.


In all seriousness, I think a nation spanning the third of a continent would declare itself some sort of Empire.

The Empire of Columbia?

hue
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