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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:00 am

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Geacron > Wikipedia.

It may have been that Dahomey was a Protectorate (I think that may have been the case).

But I'd also like to mention that I did say my alternative reservation was Sweden before you posted your intent to take France's colonies, specifically at least.


But as you stated before. Clearness was not there. You mentioned Sweden but not its belongings.


I am sure we can come to an agreement on this issue.
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:09 am

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
But as you stated before. Clearness was not there. You mentioned Sweden but not its belongings.


I am sure we can come to an agreement on this issue.


I'm working on compiling a world map of reservations, and I'm thinking of a solution.

I have some rough ideas;

1) France moves to provinces in Ghana, Sweden keeps current colony. (Italy needs to work something out, too.)
2) Sweden moves over to Ghana, France keeps colony.
3) Sweden moves to Sierra Leone + Liberia. France moves surrounding colonies (in compensation, because seriously I'd like to expand somewhere that isn't desert)
4) France let's go of the colony altogether and uses colonial power to colonize something else. NZ? Hawaii?

These all need Italy to come up with something with whoever owns the colony, though.
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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:14 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
I am sure we can come to an agreement on this issue.


I'm working on compiling a world map of reservations, and I'm thinking of a solution.

I have some rough ideas;

1) France moves to provinces in Ghana, Sweden keeps current colony. (Italy needs to work something out, too.)
2) Sweden moves over to Ghana, France keeps colony.
3) Sweden moves to Sierra Leone + Liberia. France moves surrounding colonies (in compensation, because seriously I'd like to expand somewhere that isn't desert)
4) France let's go of the colony altogether and uses colonial power to colonize something else. NZ? Hawaii?

These all need Italy to come up with something with whoever owns the colony, though.


Hawaii, really? :eyebrow:

Ghana is also mine. Look at my reservation. I guess I can move to Sierra Leone and Liberia.
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:17 am

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I'm working on compiling a world map of reservations, and I'm thinking of a solution.

I have some rough ideas;

1) France moves to provinces in Ghana, Sweden keeps current colony. (Italy needs to work something out, too.)
2) Sweden moves over to Ghana, France keeps colony.
3) Sweden moves to Sierra Leone + Liberia. France moves surrounding colonies (in compensation, because seriously I'd like to expand somewhere that isn't desert)
4) France let's go of the colony altogether and uses colonial power to colonize something else. NZ? Hawaii?

These all need Italy to come up with something with whoever owns the colony, though.


Hawaii, really? :eyebrow:

Ghana is also mine. Look at my reservation. I guess I can move to Sierra Leone and Liberia.


Hawaii is a very strategic location with a lot of advantage.

Don't forget that Hawaii pretty much started the Pacific war. Whoever controls Hawaii, and has western naval power, controls the Pacific. It's in such a position that it's perfect for a coaling station and, when airplanes are discovered if we ever get that far, an airbase.
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:20 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Hawaii, really? :eyebrow:

Ghana is also mine. Look at my reservation. I guess I can move to Sierra Leone and Liberia.


Hawaii is a very strategic location with a lot of advantage.

Don't forget that Hawaii pretty much started the Pacific war. Whoever controls Hawaii, and has western naval power, controls the Pacific. It's in such a position that it's perfect for a coaling station and, when airplanes are discovered if we ever get that far, an airbase.


I will take Hawaii but in exchange of what? (I am trying to make this clear)
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:46 am

Caltarania wrote:
Alleniana wrote:wat u do


My mum's a childminder. After I turned 16 I basically am, on paper at least, her employee. Basically she can bump up the number of kids she looks after (=more cash) and I don't have to do fuck all. But I still get paid.

Sounds nice. :P
Caltarania wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/kn0wZG4.png -> Although this is from 1822, in here it says otherwise.


Geacron > Wikipedia.

It may have been that Dahomey was a Protectorate (I think that may have been the case).

But I'd also like to mention that I did say my alternative reservation was Sweden before you posted your intent to take France's colonies, specifically at least.

Wikipedia is a ruthlessly crowd-edited source for all information that has all the citations you need/want, and goes into far more detail than it can handle.
Geacron is maps. A very good set of maps, but nonetheless, just maps; a visualisation of existing evidence by a single organization/person.

This new RP...
*cries loudly*
i want tiem to do dis
Sveltlana wrote:I'm planning an 1821 AH RP (that's when EU IV officially ends) with the POD at about 1444 AD (that's when EU IV officially begins). I dunno if there are other Paradox fans here, but I'd love to take my Iberian nation out here and try it out in a RP scenario. Anyone interested?

Screenshot the endgame? Curiosity? :P
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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:55 am

What are we talking about? They say there's a storm brewing.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:57 am

Sveltlana wrote:I'm planning an 1821 AH RP (that's when EU IV officially ends) with the POD at about 1444 AD (that's when EU IV officially begins). I dunno if there are other Paradox fans here, but I'd love to take my Iberian nation out here and try it out in a RP scenario. Anyone interested?

I am drooling on my keyboard. TG me the link when it's up!
Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:00 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:I'm planning an 1821 AH RP (that's when EU IV officially ends) with the POD at about 1444 AD (that's when EU IV officially begins). I dunno if there are other Paradox fans here, but I'd love to take my Iberian nation out here and try it out in a RP scenario. Anyone interested?

I am drooling on my keyboard. TG me the link when it's up!

Better reserve some land before it all goes
:P

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Sveltlana
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Postby Sveltlana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:08 am

Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the ~4 pages of posts that formed overnight. Could I be TG'd any important info? Thanks!

Alleniana wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:I am drooling on my keyboard. TG me the link when it's up!

Better reserve some land before it all goes
:P


Rossiya?

Bad thing though. You lost the Great Northern War.
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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:13 am

Sveltlana wrote:Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the ~4 pages of posts that formed overnight. Could I be TG'd any important info? Thanks!

Alleniana wrote:Better reserve some land before it all goes
:P


Rossiya?

Bad thing though. You lost the Great Northern War.

I reserve Sweden/Scandinavia.
Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:24 am

Alleniana wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Geacron > Wikipedia.

It may have been that Dahomey was a Protectorate (I think that may have been the case).

But I'd also like to mention that I did say my alternative reservation was Sweden before you posted your intent to take France's colonies, specifically at least.

Wikipedia is a ruthlessly crowd-edited source for all information that has all the citations you need/want, and goes into far more detail than it can handle.
Geacron is maps. A very good set of maps, but nonetheless, just maps; a visualisation of existing evidence by a single organization/person.


Wikipedia's main advantage is also it's main downfall, though. The fact anyone can edit (most) articles takes away credibility due to the fact that, and I say this not as an insult, most people are not experts on every subject.

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the ~4 pages of posts that formed overnight. Could I be TG'd any important info? Thanks!



Rossiya?

Bad thing though. You lost the Great Northern War.

I reserve Sweden/Scandinavia.


Ursäkta. Already taken by moi.
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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:27 am

Caltarania wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:I reserve Sweden/Scandinavia.


Ursäkta. Already taken by moi.

What isn't taken?
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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:28 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Caltarania wrote:

Ursäkta. Already taken by moi.

What isn't taken?


I'm working on a make-shift map, and I have some rules regarding claims that I will discuss with Svelt.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:29 am

Caltarania wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Wikipedia is a ruthlessly crowd-edited source for all information that has all the citations you need/want, and goes into far more detail than it can handle.
Geacron is maps. A very good set of maps, but nonetheless, just maps; a visualisation of existing evidence by a single organization/person.


Wikipedia's main advantage is also it's main downfall, though. The fact anyone can edit (most) articles takes away credibility due to the fact that, and I say this not as an insult, most people are not experts on every subject.

Indeed, but the fact that sources are required (seriously, I once made an unsourced edit and it got taken down within the hour, and this wasn't any famous page) makes it much better than many other things on the internet. And for things that are fact (e.g. France DID colonise here, or it didn't; you can't claim that this 5000km journey half-happened, really), like this, it's much more trustworthy IMO.

I personally use Geacron as something to get an idea, then I compare it to other maps of around the same period, note the discrepancies, and research them on Wikipedia, whose information I then use to research even wider across the internet, having an idea of the rough idea.

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:32 am

Caltarania wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:What isn't taken?


I'm working on a make-shift map, and I have some rules regarding claims that I will discuss with Svelt.

Oh. What's the POD?
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:32 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I'm working on a make-shift map, and I have some rules regarding claims that I will discuss with Svelt.

Oh. What's the POD?


1444 Common Era. The start of EU4.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:35 am

Caltarania wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Oh. What's the POD?


1444 Common Era. The start of EU4.

Noice. TG me the map when it's made.
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:36 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
1444 Common Era. The start of EU4.

Noice. TG me the map when it's made.


It's nearly done.

It is very WIP though, because some people have made reservations but no specific maps.

@Allen; Well yeah but shaddup. :3
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:38 am

Caltarania wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Noice. TG me the map when it's made.


It's nearly done.

It is very WIP though, because some people have made reservations but no specific maps.

@Allen; Well yeah but shaddup. :3

:p huehue

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Postby Caltarania » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:43 am

Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo
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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:55 am

Caltarania wrote:Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo

Imma reserve the Netherlands and a few other things. Map coming soon.
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The Vekta-Helghast Empire
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:19 am

Caltarania wrote:Makeshift map: http://i.imgur.com/DfwztVd.png

Reservations not on the map:

  • All of Germany + Austria-Hungary-ish there was a map.
  • Mexico, U.S.C.A., Venezuela, Colombia. (Basically all of Latin America) Currently sort-of part of Spain but will be gaining independence.
  • Egypt is sorto part of Italy but not and it was confusing okay.
  • UK + Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Labrador, Land around the gulf of St.Lawrence, Jakarta, Flores, Ghana, Togo


I can into reserve the green in the middle east?

http://i.imgur.com/yeuVQXF.png
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:27 am

Sebtopiaris is a culturally and ethnically Mediterranean, single-party democratic socialist state in the New Warsaw Pact with a population of 39 million Sebtopiariots. Sebtopiaris and its IC actions do not represent my personal beliefs, and Sebtopiaris's overview page does not represent much at all.

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