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[Caltarania]

Wait... Is this RP only the Americas? Because if not I 100% Want the Maori.

It's global. But it's hard to tell what impact this would have on a global scale. Without the colonization in the Americas, who knows if anyone from the Old World would even discover Australasia? It's quite... difficult to tell.

You can be the Maori if you want, but they'd most likely be similar to the Amazonian tribes nowadays I would assume. Unless they traded with the Chinese/Japanese and somehow weren't conquered by China's zerg powah.

I'm working on a custom/edited map, because I don't think straight lines would make much sense in this scenario.

Oh, and I'm going to be looking for three Co-Ops to do most of the Op stuff because I am not the best when given ultimate power. Reph, I will give you a Co-Op position simply so that when we argue it actually has meaning xD

[Rephesus]

Wait... Is this RP only the Americas? Because if not I 100% Want the Maori.

It's global. But it's hard to tell what impact this would have on a global scale. Without the colonization in the Americas, who knows if anyone from the Old World would even discover Australasia? It's quite... difficult to tell.

You can be the Maori if you want, but they'd most likely be similar to the Amazonian tribes nowadays I would assume. Unless they traded with the Chinese/Japanese and somehow weren't conquered by China's zerg powah.

I'm working on a custom/edited map, because I don't think straight lines would make much sense in this scenario.

Oh, and I'm going to be looking for three Co-Ops to do most of the Op stuff because I am not the best when given ultimate power. Reph, I will give you a Co-Op position simply so that when we argue it actually has meaning xD

Well this should be fun

Anyway, will it be more RP Based or Worldbuilding? Because I'm thinking a Maori/Javan Partition of Australia.

[Rephesus]

Oh and Calt I thought of a cause, a very very bad Black Plague. Wipes out almost the entire European population along with most of the Asian and African population. That way the Old World takes centuries longer to get on it's feet, justifying a stronger native population, different balance in power and death-by-trade instead of death-by-colonization.

[Caltarania]

It's global. But it's hard to tell what impact this would have on a global scale. Without the colonization in the Americas, who knows if anyone from the Old World would even discover Australasia? It's quite... difficult to tell.

You can be the Maori if you want, but they'd most likely be similar to the Amazonian tribes nowadays I would assume. Unless they traded with the Chinese/Japanese and somehow weren't conquered by China's zerg powah.

I'm working on a custom/edited map, because I don't think straight lines would make much sense in this scenario.

Oh, and I'm going to be looking for three Co-Ops to do most of the Op stuff because I am not the best when given ultimate power. Reph, I will give you a Co-Op position simply so that when we argue it actually has meaning xD

Well this should be fun

Anyway, will it be more RP Based or Worldbuilding? Because I'm thinking a Maori/Javan Partition of Australia.

Rp-Based. I think by the time the RP has started we will have already done enough goddamn worldbuilding.

But I mean, each to his own.

Oh and Calt I thought of a cause, a very very bad Black Plague. Wipes out almost the entire European population along with most of the Asian and African population. That way the Old World takes centuries longer to get on it's feet, justifying a stronger native population, different balance in power and death-by-trade instead of death-by-colonization.

Coupled with that, Columbus was killed by said Black Death and the Ottomans never really take off due to their entire leadership being decimated. This leaves East-West trade unharmed and removes a possible reason for going west. By around 1550 a European (Norwegian most likely) ship is blown widely off course and lands in the New World. The natives aid the crew repair the ship and thus contact is (gradually) established between the New and Old Worlds. Trade flourishes (Europe and maybe Africa? trades with the East Coast, Asia with the West). The native tribes evolve into nations etc. etc.

[Caltarania]

Given up on custom map.

That didn't take long.

[Garwall]

Hey guys, remember that realpolitik RP I suggested a while ago? Here's the final stage of the development of that idea. I'll leave this here for anyone interested; just the post I put in the Cafe to gauge interest.

Because alternate-history type roleplays have been done to death by now, I figured it's time to beat the dead horse a few more times. Been kicking around these ideas for a little while now, wondering what everyone else thinks--I'd REALLY REALLY love to do a serious AWRP that doesn't die so quickly. I also want to actually accomplish an invasion of another country before it dies, so hopefully this will appeal to people thinking the same way I do:

RP INTEREST AND FEEDBACK REQUEST

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Please provide as much detail as possible.

RP's Overarching Concept: Wondrous Realpolitik. Except in this universe it's known as Realpolitique, as instead of becoming a kickass General in the French Revolution, Napoleon Bonaparte becomes a kickass statesman and pioneers a new form of international diplomacy which leads to a diplomatic revolution in Europe that destabilizes the balance of power and slowly remakes modern Europe.

Genre/s: Alternate history/world Nation RPing

Character or Faction Based: Faction (nation) based.

Detailed Description:

Essentially, the alternate-history POD would be set around the 1600's with a specific point not picked yet, mainly to allow for things such as colonies to be changed and for different overseas empires to be established than the norm. However, the French Revolution will still occur at some point, eventually fizzling out into nothing with the Revolutionaries being crushed by Europe (whether they will come back and succeed at a later date is up to players), because Napoleon turns away from warfare and turns to statecraft instead. The result is realpolitique, which sweeps across Europe like a virus, with morality being its first casualty. Essentially the balance of power that many European states fought so hard to protect collapses with periods of sporadic warfare and unrest across the continent dominating the 19th century, with a sort of cold war atmosphere being the tempo entering the 20th century.

The RP will take place in the mid/late 1930's, to allow for WWII-era technology for warfare as many people are more familiar with WWII than WWI, and allows for tanks (all hail glorious Panzer tank master-race) and aircraft and other fun stuff. Generally, the majority of players will be acting as the leading powers of the world at the time, with much of the world divided into smaller independent states. The goal is to build up your economic and military power to become the dominant force in the world, and to form a power bloc that is strong enough to direct the flow of the world itself. I've developed a system to determine a country's industrial strength based on factors such as population size, resources and geostrategic positioning, which grows with the more nations in your sphere of influence or nations you annex. Once you get a large enough IC, you can start pursuing more exotic technologies such as post-WWII tech, superweapons such as super-heavy tanks or V2 rockets, or hell, even atomic weaponry if people think it's okay. Possibly even fictional tech if it's still somewhat in the realm of possibilities (Tesla coil, anyone?).

The goal is to have nations wheeling and dealing with one another, forming and breaking alliances, stabbing each other in the back, etcetera. I want to have an AHRP that isn't all morality legislating so when something actually does happen (someone gets invaded), half of the world doesn't get pissy and the invasion stops and then the RP dies because typing paragraphs about your president writing an angry letter to the tinpot dictator down the road is so boring. This encourages invading your neighbors as soon as possible so you can get their oil before that tinpot dictator who just invaded Poland for the thirteenth time doesn't get there first. So I generally want to create an environment where it's acceptable to form a triple alliance with your neighbors, use one state as a bulletsponge and then partition said bulletsponge after the war is won with your other ally, then try to stab your other friend in the back and watch your empire crumble from so much plotting. And war.

Need Help With: Interest, concept, rule-designing, finding support to get it running

Please leave this hashtag in place: #Mentorhelp

[Bujahla]

Hey guys, remember that realpolitik RP I suggested a while ago? Here's the final stage of the development of that idea. I'll leave this here for anyone interested; just the post I put in the Cafe to gauge interest.

Because alternate-history type roleplays have been done to death by now, I figured it's time to beat the dead horse a few more times. Been kicking around these ideas for a little while now, wondering what everyone else thinks--I'd REALLY REALLY love to do a serious AWRP that doesn't die so quickly. I also want to actually accomplish an invasion of another country before it dies, so hopefully this will appeal to people thinking the same way I do:

RP INTEREST AND FEEDBACK REQUEST

---

Please provide as much detail as possible.

RP's Overarching Concept: Wondrous Realpolitik. Except in this universe it's known as Realpolitique, as instead of becoming a kickass General in the French Revolution, Napoleon Bonaparte becomes a kickass statesman and pioneers a new form of international diplomacy which leads to a diplomatic revolution in Europe that destabilizes the balance of power and slowly remakes modern Europe.

Genre/s: Alternate history/world Nation RPing

Character or Faction Based: Faction (nation) based.

Detailed Description:

Essentially, the alternate-history POD would be set around the 1600's with a specific point not picked yet, mainly to allow for things such as colonies to be changed and for different overseas empires to be established than the norm. However, the French Revolution will still occur at some point, eventually fizzling out into nothing with the Revolutionaries being crushed by Europe (whether they will come back and succeed at a later date is up to players), because Napoleon turns away from warfare and turns to statecraft instead. The result is realpolitique, which sweeps across Europe like a virus, with morality being its first casualty. Essentially the balance of power that many European states fought so hard to protect collapses with periods of sporadic warfare and unrest across the continent dominating the 19th century, with a sort of cold war atmosphere being the tempo entering the 20th century.

The RP will take place in the mid/late 1930's, to allow for WWII-era technology for warfare as many people are more familiar with WWII than WWI, and allows for tanks (all hail glorious Panzer tank master-race) and aircraft and other fun stuff. Generally, the majority of players will be acting as the leading powers of the world at the time, with much of the world divided into smaller independent states. The goal is to build up your economic and military power to become the dominant force in the world, and to form a power bloc that is strong enough to direct the flow of the world itself. I've developed a system to determine a country's industrial strength based on factors such as population size, resources and geostrategic positioning, which grows with the more nations in your sphere of influence or nations you annex. Once you get a large enough IC, you can start pursuing more exotic technologies such as post-WWII tech, superweapons such as super-heavy tanks or V2 rockets, or hell, even atomic weaponry if people think it's okay. Possibly even fictional tech if it's still somewhat in the realm of possibilities (Tesla coil, anyone?).

The goal is to have nations wheeling and dealing with one another, forming and breaking alliances, stabbing each other in the back, etcetera. I want to have an AHRP that isn't all morality legislating so when something actually does happen (someone gets invaded), half of the world doesn't get pissy and the invasion stops and then the RP dies because typing paragraphs about your president writing an angry letter to the tinpot dictator down the road is so boring. This encourages invading your neighbors as soon as possible so you can get their oil before that tinpot dictator who just invaded Poland for the thirteenth time doesn't get there first. So I generally want to create an environment where it's acceptable to form a triple alliance with your neighbors, use one state as a bulletsponge and then partition said bulletsponge after the war is won with your other ally, then try to stab your other friend in the back and watch your empire crumble from so much plotting. And war.

Need Help With: Interest, concept, rule-designing, finding support to get it running

Please leave this hashtag in place: #Mentorhelp

I'm down for that. Not sure what to be, but it sounds interesting.

Well this should be fun

Anyway, will it be more RP Based or Worldbuilding? Because I'm thinking a Maori/Javan Partition of Australia.

Rp-Based. I think by the time the RP has started we will have already done enough goddamn worldbuilding.

But I mean, each to his own.

Oh and Calt I thought of a cause, a very very bad Black Plague. Wipes out almost the entire European population along with most of the Asian and African population. That way the Old World takes centuries longer to get on it's feet, justifying a stronger native population, different balance in power and death-by-trade instead of death-by-colonization.

Coupled with that, Columbus was killed by said Black Death and the Ottomans never really take off due to their entire leadership being decimated. This leaves East-West trade unharmed and removes a possible reason for going west. By around 1550 a European (Norwegian most likely) ship is blown widely off course and lands in the New World. The natives aid the crew repair the ship and thus contact is (gradually) established between the New and Old Worlds. Trade flourishes (Europe and maybe Africa? trades with the East Coast, Asia with the West). The native tribes evolve into nations etc. etc.

Sounds cool. I like it. And if not the Lenni Lenape, then I'd rather be something like Al-Franj (or whatever it'd be) and be a muslim france that was conquered post black-plague.

[Caltarania]

Hey guys, remember that realpolitik RP I suggested a while ago? Here's the final stage of the development of that idea. I'll leave this here for anyone interested; just the post I put in the Cafe to gauge interest.

I'm down for that. Not sure what to be, but it sounds interesting.

Rp-Based. I think by the time the RP has started we will have already done enough goddamn worldbuilding.

But I mean, each to his own.



Coupled with that, Columbus was killed by said Black Death and the Ottomans never really take off due to their entire leadership being decimated. This leaves East-West trade unharmed and removes a possible reason for going west. By around 1550 a European (Norwegian most likely) ship is blown widely off course and lands in the New World. The natives aid the crew repair the ship and thus contact is (gradually) established between the New and Old Worlds. Trade flourishes (Europe and maybe Africa? trades with the East Coast, Asia with the West). The native tribes evolve into nations etc. etc.

Sounds cool. I like it. And if not the Lenni Lenape, then I'd rather be something like Al-Franj (or whatever it'd be) and be a muslim france that was conquered post black-plague.

Kay, sounds cool.

As for religions in the New World, I thought up that there would be two main religious groups (One dominant in North America, the other in South America). The NA one would sort of Hindu-esque-ish. It would basically have a Pantheon of gods who where, simultaneously, a single God. Sort of like the various aspects of said God. Anyway, that religion would then have two/three denominations with slightly different beliefs (similar to Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism if you understand my drift). The SA one would be based on a similar idea, but with slightly altered beliefs and prophets etc. It would have two main denominations.

Sorta WIP, but eh. Oh, and Buj you wanna be a Co-Op?

[Rephesus]

For religion, you may want to also have a monotheistic religion like the Inca were slowly shifting towards before the Spanish arrived. Do i would suggest that South America be split between Monotheistic, Pantheistic and Pagan. As for the North Americans, maybe make it more transcendent like Confucianism or Shinto, and other parts more Hindu-esque.

Oh and like RL India, there should be a few abrahamic areas, like in India Kerala Is Catholic, Gujarat is Muslim.

[Bujahla]

I'm down for that. Not sure what to be, but it sounds interesting.



Sounds cool. I like it. And if not the Lenni Lenape, then I'd rather be something like Al-Franj (or whatever it'd be) and be a muslim france that was conquered post black-plague.

Kay, sounds cool.

As for religions in the New World, I thought up that there would be two main religious groups (One dominant in North America, the other in South America). The NA one would sort of Hindu-esque-ish. It would basically have a Pantheon of gods who where, simultaneously, a single God. Sort of like the various aspects of said God. Anyway, that religion would then have two/three denominations with slightly different beliefs (similar to Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism if you understand my drift). The SA one would be based on a similar idea, but with slightly altered beliefs and prophets etc. It would have two main denominations.

Sorta WIP, but eh. Oh, and Buj you wanna be a Co-Op?

Yes, but I ask that we not neglect IRL religions that were popular in the new world. I'd rather have multiple religions preferably spiritual-based in nature and quite different from the old world.

[Reatra]

If that RP was made. Could I please be the Inca? I love them so.

[Alleniana]

Man, I would like to see some Medieval RP that puts levies into account. Part timers that don't really know how to align a sword or axe or any cutting tool properly for a strike would be fun to watch.

da

Wait... Is this RP only the Americas? Because if not I 100% Want the Maori.

It's global. But it's hard to tell what impact this would have on a global scale. Without the colonization in the Americas, who knows if anyone from the Old World would even discover Australasia? It's quite... difficult to tell.

You can be the Maori if you want, but they'd most likely be similar to the Amazonian tribes nowadays I would assume. Unless they traded with the Chinese/Japanese and somehow weren't conquered by China's zerg powah.

I'm working on a custom/edited map, because I don't think straight lines would make much sense in this scenario.

Oh, and I'm going to be looking for three Co-Ops to do most of the Op stuff because I am not the best when given ultimate power. Reph, I will give you a Co-Op position simply so that when we argue it actually has meaning xD

Halloo.
Mayaplox.

[Rephesus]

Oooh Mayan Venezuala maybe? If this is modern I see them making a killing off oil and the canal.

[Bujahla]

Oooh Mayan Venezuala maybe? If this is modern I see them making a killing off oil and the canal.

Please don't relocate major groups. It'll be like damn EAH which had Aztecs in Northern Europe and someone wanting to be Brazilian Mayans.

[Rephesus]

Oooh Mayan Venezuala maybe? If this is modern I see them making a killing off oil and the canal.

Please don't relocate major groups. It'll be like damn EAH which had Aztecs in Northern Europe and someone wanting to be Brazilian Mayans.

Oh god first Brazilian Aztecs now Brazilian Mayans...

But seriously, Venezuela is way closer to the maya than Brazil, it's plausible.

[Alleniana]

Oooh Mayan Venezuala maybe? If this is modern I see them making a killing off oil and the canal.

What tech, though?

[Caltarania]

For religion, you may want to also have a monotheistic religion like the Inca were slowly shifting towards before the Spanish arrived. Do i would suggest that South America be split between Monotheistic, Pantheistic and Pagan. As for the North Americans, maybe make it more transcendent like Confucianism or Shinto, and other parts more Hindu-esque.

Oh and like RL India, there should be a few abrahamic areas, like in India Kerala Is Catholic, Gujarat is Muslim.

I guess. My main thinking was two major religions to provoke religious conflict as in Europe/Middle East.

If that RP was made. Could I please be the Inca? I love them so.

Sure.

Man, I would like to see some Medieval RP that puts levies into account. Part timers that don't really know how to align a sword or axe or any cutting tool properly for a strike would be fun to watch.

da

It's global. But it's hard to tell what impact this would have on a global scale. Without the colonization in the Americas, who knows if anyone from the Old World would even discover Australasia? It's quite... difficult to tell.

You can be the Maori if you want, but they'd most likely be similar to the Amazonian tribes nowadays I would assume. Unless they traded with the Chinese/Japanese and somehow weren't conquered by China's zerg powah.

I'm working on a custom/edited map, because I don't think straight lines would make much sense in this scenario.

Oh, and I'm going to be looking for three Co-Ops to do most of the Op stuff because I am not the best when given ultimate power. Reph, I will give you a Co-Op position simply so that when we argue it actually has meaning xD

Halloo.
Mayaplox.

Da.

Oooh Mayan Venezuala maybe? If this is modern I see them making a killing off oil and the canal.

What tech, though?

1850's me thinks.

[Alleniana]

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How big can things get? If possible; I'd like most of the southern half of Mexico, plus most of the Caribbean and some of south America (and all the Central America in between) if that's not too large.

[Caltarania]

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How big can things get? If possible; I'd like most of the southern half of Mexico, plus most of the Caribbean and some of south America (and all the Central America in between) if that's not too large.

Eh. I'd rather have independent Caribbean for a UK-esque nation there but whatever

Also, Allen you want co-op?

[Alleniana]

How big can things get? If possible; I'd like most of the southern half of Mexico, plus most of the Caribbean and some of south America (and all the Central America in between) if that's not too large.

Eh. I'd rather have independent Caribbean for a UK-esque nation there but whatever

Also, Allen you want co-op?

Ja und ja.

http://i.imgur.com/VHjIbYX.png
Claims; fine?
The Mayans went confederal to save themselves from instability and stuff; preserved not only themselves, but also opened up the governmental structure to reform (a new government has less traditions, after all) and so modernized relatively quickly. The Mixtecs and the <insert cultural group> were also taken into the new confederation as relatively equal parties, more modernization both of politics and other technology, and then seafaring boom; expansion in the Caribbean, with Tainos added to the confederation as well. Is today arguably the most modern native nation in the Americas, and perhaps the most seafaring oriented.

[Caltarania]

Eh. I'd rather have independent Caribbean for a UK-esque nation there but whatever

Also, Allen you want co-op?

Ja und ja.

http://i.imgur.com/VHjIbYX.png
Claims; fine?
The Mayans went confederal to save themselves from instability and stuff; preserved not only themselves, but also opened up the governmental structure to reform (a new government has less traditions, after all) and so modernized relatively quickly. The Mixtecs and the <insert cultural group> were also taken into the new confederation as relatively equal parties, more modernization both of politics and other technology, and then seafaring boom; expansion in the Caribbean, with Tainos added to the confederation as well. Is today arguably the most modern native nation in the Americas, and perhaps the most seafaring oriented.

That sounds fine.

[Alleniana]

Ja und ja.

http://i.imgur.com/VHjIbYX.png
Claims; fine?
The Mayans went confederal to save themselves from instability and stuff; preserved not only themselves, but also opened up the governmental structure to reform (a new government has less traditions, after all) and so modernized relatively quickly. The Mixtecs and the <insert cultural group> were also taken into the new confederation as relatively equal parties, more modernization both of politics and other technology, and then seafaring boom; expansion in the Caribbean, with Tainos added to the confederation as well. Is today arguably the most modern native nation in the Americas, and perhaps the most seafaring oriented.

That sounds fine.

I'm already planning all the confederate divisions.

[Caltarania]

That sounds fine.

I'm already planning all the confederate divisions.

xD

I need someone to help me write an OP.

[Alleniana]

http://i.imgur.com/9rzTLVA.png
I spent way too long on this thing.

Europan has the most European influence, and Carib warring has created a unique identity. It's basically east Taino mixed with European, African, allsorts.

Incapan is made of immigrants from the Incans who've integrated due to weird shit.

[Caltarania]

http://i.imgur.com/9rzTLVA.png
I spent way too long on this thing.

Europan has the most European influence, and Carib warring has created a unique identity. It's basically east Taino mixed with European, African, allsorts.

Incapan is made of immigrants from the Incans who've integrated due to weird shit.

Kay.

I still need help with an OP and possible edited map due to the Yanks and their goddamn straight lines.