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[Aldelxane]

If Japan sides with Korea, the war could possibly escalate to the point that other countries in Asia could potentially be drawn in.

[Waztaskio]

Japan and South Korea's so called "Military-Cooperation" isn't so stable. Quote from wikipedia:



With the war in Israel, US Depression, and just the general Chinese threat, deterred them from really wanting to protect Korea, as it would lead to a global economic collapse.

but Japan needs allies against china. If the Us is occupied and the south is lost, that leaves only taiwan.

True, but Japan against a huge China, alone with South Korea, is scary. Japan would how-ever, strengthen relations with Taiwan, and is now trying to get Nuclear Weapons. It is just a huge mess.

[Mishmahig]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

I look forward to it.

[Paketo]

but Japan needs allies against china. If the Us is occupied and the south is lost, that leaves only taiwan.

True, but Japan against a huge China, alone with South Korea, is scary. Japan would how-ever, strengthen relations with Taiwan, and is now trying to get Nuclear Weapons. It is just a huge mess.

the would be only against north korea though at the time of intervention which would make japan intervening much more likely. i also think you should add in some things about chinese vietnamese tensions as they have been growing recently

[Waztaskio]

True, but Japan against a huge China, alone with South Korea, is scary. Japan would how-ever, strengthen relations with Taiwan, and is now trying to get Nuclear Weapons. It is just a huge mess.

the would be only against north korea though at the time of intervention which would make japan intervening much more likely. i also think you should add in some things about chinese vietnamese tensions as they have been growing recently

I was going to allow the Vietnamese relations to be determined by whoever plays. As far as Japan intervening, I basically had them tied up with protecting their economy, and contributing to Israels conflict, and the loss of allies.

[Paketo]

Waz, what if instead China invaded north korea during the war and took total control. from wikipedia

The Foreign Minister of the People's Republic of China Yang Jiechi said that China "resolutely" opposes the latest nuclear test conducted by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.[10][11] The North Korean ambassador to China, Ji Jae Ryong, was personally informed of this position on 12 February 2013 in a meeting with Yang Jiechi.[10]

On 5 May 2013, North Korea "grabbed", according to Jiang Yaxian, a Chinese government official, another Chinese fishing boat in a series of impounding Chinese fishing boats.[1] "North Korea was demanding 600,000 yuan ($97,600) for its safe return, along with its 16 crew."[1

China could possibly had enough of the North's antics and taken total control. it would set up a bigger chinese threat a bigger flashpoint for another conflict

[Mishmahig]

Waz, what if instead China invaded north korea during the war and took total control. from wikipedia

The Foreign Minister of the People's Republic of China Yang Jiechi said that China "resolutely" opposes the latest nuclear test conducted by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.[10][11] The North Korean ambassador to China, Ji Jae Ryong, was personally informed of this position on 12 February 2013 in a meeting with Yang Jiechi.[10]

On 5 May 2013, North Korea "grabbed", according to Jiang Yaxian, a Chinese government official, another Chinese fishing boat in a series of impounding Chinese fishing boats.[1] "North Korea was demanding 600,000 yuan ($97,600) for its safe return, along with its 16 crew."[1

China could possibly had enough of the North's antics and taken total control

I'm pretty sure China keeps North Korea around because it causes the US more headaches than it does them. Also, China can then demand concessions for keeping North Korea in check, or negotiating talks or whatnot.

[Waztaskio]

Waz, what if instead China invaded north korea during the war and took total control. from wikipedia

The Foreign Minister of the People's Republic of China Yang Jiechi said that China "resolutely" opposes the latest nuclear test conducted by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.[10][11] The North Korean ambassador to China, Ji Jae Ryong, was personally informed of this position on 12 February 2013 in a meeting with Yang Jiechi.[10]

On 5 May 2013, North Korea "grabbed", according to Jiang Yaxian, a Chinese government official, another Chinese fishing boat in a series of impounding Chinese fishing boats.[1] "North Korea was demanding 600,000 yuan ($97,600) for its safe return, along with its 16 crew."[1

China could possibly had enough of the North's antics and taken total control. it would set up a bigger chinese threat a bigger flashpoint for another conflict

That's what I did.

[Aldelxane]

Waz, what if instead China invaded north korea during the war and took total control. from wikipedia



China could possibly had enough of the North's antics and taken total control

I'm pretty sure China keeps North Korea around because it causes the US more headaches than it does them. Also, China can then demand concessions for keeping North Korea in check, or negotiating talks or whatnot.

With the US dealing with a depression at home, that reason wouldn't be of use anymore, at least for the short term.

[Paketo]

Waz, what if instead China invaded north korea during the war and took total control. from wikipedia



China could possibly had enough of the North's antics and taken total control. it would set up a bigger chinese threat a bigger flashpoint for another conflict

That's what I did.

i meant that china intervenes in the North south conflict and just takes over north leaving the south independant.

[Waztaskio]

That's what I did.

i meant that china intervenes in the North south conflict and just takes over north leaving the south independant.

Nah, it would either be all or nothing. That would completely end the idea, of not having American Influence on China's border, which is just unacceptable for China.

[Paketo]

i meant that china intervenes in the North south conflict and just takes over north leaving the south independant.

Nah, it would either be all or nothing. That would completely end the idea, of not having American Influence on China's border, which is just unacceptable for China.

i really can't get behind the rp idea then because the Us has four nation who they would never not support in my opinion South korea, Israel, Australia and New Zealand

[Waztaskio]

Nah, it would either be all or nothing. That would completely end the idea, of not having American Influence on China's border, which is just unacceptable for China.

i really can't get behind the rp idea then because the Us has four nation who they would never not support in my opinion South korea, Israel, Australia and New Zealand

I guarantee you they want to, but can't due to the numerous complications it would bring.

[Paketo]

i really can't get behind the rp idea then because the Us has four nation who they would never not support in my opinion South korea, Israel, Australia and New Zealand

I guarantee you they want to, but can't due to the numerous complications it would bring.

If the US, SK and Japan did not actually invade the north but stopped at the border unlike what MacArthur did in the first korean war, it would be a very plausible scenario with possible dethroning of Kim Jong and institution of a 'democratic' government which China underhandedly influences to put pro chinese in power. that actually sounds like a cool political rp

[Aldelxane]

Question: How does China come out unscathed from both a global depression and the popping of its housing bubble?

[Waztaskio]

Question: How does China come out unscathed from both a global depression and the popping of its housing bubble?

It dosen't, infact China with the new environmental problems, are actually going to produce problems for the industry. They may actually engage in "Relocation" of Korean's to suit some population needs, but it may be last resort.

[Organized States]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

i love playing as Csa but really hate the concept of fascism so would it be possible to play as a rebel group in CSA with the goal of restoring it to it's original ideas of states rights and such

Perfectly fine.

But, you won't get much support from the wealthy plantation and faction owners (who use slaves), and who support the Fascist Party.

[Aldelxane]

Question: How does China come out unscathed from both a global depression and the popping of its housing bubble?

It dosen't, infact China with the new environmental problems, are actually going to produce problems for the industry. They may actually engage in "Relocation" of Korean's to suit some population needs, but it may be last resort.

Then why does it still have the ability to participate in lots of wars, when the US literally can't, and have a massive GDP, when it should be hit just as hard as other countries pby the depression?

Edit: From the collapse of the US and South Korean economies alone it'd lose revenue from 20% of its exports and lose 17% of its imports.

[Waztaskio]

It dosen't, infact China with the new environmental problems, are actually going to produce problems for the industry. They may actually engage in "Relocation" of Korean's to suit some population needs, but it may be last resort.

Then why does it still have the ability to participate in lots of wars, when the US literally can't, and have a massive GDP, when it should be hit just as hard as other countries pby the depression?

Edit: From the collapse of the US and South Korean economies alone it'd lose revenue from 20% of its exports and lose 17% of its imports.

Hence, why I didn't allow it to have a GDP of 22 Trillion, even though it was expanding rapidly. I was planning on having it lose a little more during the RP.

[Organized States]

Dixie Days and Yankee Nights is up!

Feel free to apply.

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[Alleniana]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

yayay

@Wasz, I'll be frank, it just sounds implausible to me. The first idea, I mean.

[Aldelxane]

Then why does it still have the ability to participate in lots of wars, when the US literally can't, and have a massive GDP, when it should be hit just as hard as other countries pby the depression?

Edit: From the collapse of the US and South Korean economies alone it'd lose revenue from 20% of its exports and lose 17% of its imports.

Hence, why I didn't allow it to have a GDP of 22 Trillion, even though it was expanding rapidly. I was planning on having it lose a little more during the RP.

Ah, I see. It would have fallen a lot rather than expanded more slowly, but I guess it could have recovered depending on how long ago the depression was. I wonder how Reatra will treat China's political situation in that RP. There'd certainly be a lot of changes.

[Bujahla]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

yayay

@Wasz, I'll be frank, it just sounds implausible to me. The first idea, I mean.

I could care less, that'd be fucking awesome

[Altito Asmoro]

RP sets in Korea with Russia and Japan fights for Korea (For their own benefits), will it be any good? I will make it a character RP .

[Paketo]

RP sets in Korea with Russia and Japan fights for Korea (For their own benefits), will it be any good? I will make it a character RP .

Wait, so it would be Russia and N Korea vs SK and japan or Russia versus Korea and Japan