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[Organized States]

I need someone, preferably with large amounts of RPing behind their belts to take the CS.

Tempting, tempting. I'm not really a C.S.A. man though.

Perhaps Germany would be better.

Imperial Germany would be great!

[Waztaskio]

Changed my other idea to this: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313896

[Aldelxane]

Changed my other idea to this: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313896

Not joining, but one issue with your history: South Korea would likely annihilate North Korea in a fight as long as nobody intervened.

[Waztaskio]

Changed my other idea to this: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313896

Not joining, but one issue with your history: South Korea would likely annihilate North Korea in a fight as long as nobody intervened.

Not being overrun your not. Technologically South Korea wins, but Technology alone doesn't prove that it'll win. Russia in ww2 didn't even have enough weapons for their army, but they still overran the Germans, and won. No real defense against that, at least that I've seen.

[Aldelxane]

Not joining, but one issue with your history: South Korea would likely annihilate North Korea in a fight as long as nobody intervened.

Not being overrun your not. Technologically South Korea wins, but Technology alone doesn't prove that it'll win. Russia in ww2 didn't even have enough weapons for their army, but they still overran the Germans, and won. No real defense against that, at least that I've seen.

South Korea also has 5 times the population of North Korea on it's side.

[Organized States]

Not joining, but one issue with your history: South Korea would likely annihilate North Korea in a fight as long as nobody intervened.

Not being overrun your not. Technologically South Korea wins, but Technology alone doesn't prove that it'll win. Russia in ww2 didn't even have enough weapons for their army, but they still overran the Germans, and won. No real defense against that...

Well, you're forgetting that South Korea has over double the population (as already stated) and has mandatory military service.

[Mishmahig]

Hello, everyone! I given permission to request feedback on an AH RP scenario I've had in my head for a while, so tell me what you guys think.

Dixie Days and Yankee Nights: 1948


The World has been thrown into Chaos once more. Following the Entente's (British Empire, CSA, Italy, and Russia) defeat at the hands of the Central Powers (France, Germany, the US, Austria-Hungry, and Quebecois resistance fighters), the British Empire, was portioned off (South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada went to the US, India has become independent, and the rest of British Africa has gone to Germany and France), the Confederate States, lay in ruins, forced to pay reparations to the United States, and Russia fell apart bitterly. In the 1930s, the Rise of Fascism began. From the Blackshirts in Britain, to the Sons of Dixie in the CSA, the former Entente powers, are radicalised, heavily armed, and ready to retake their empires.

Now, with greater tools of warfare than ever before, the world is ready for another climatic confrontation....

This feels very much like the plot of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Hello, everyone! I given permission to request feedback on an AH RP scenario I've had in my head for a while, so tell me what you guys think.

Dixie Days and Yankee Nights: 1948


The World has been thrown into Chaos once more. Following the Entente's (British Empire, CSA, Italy, and Russia) defeat at the hands of the Central Powers (France, Germany, the US, Austria-Hungry, and Quebecois resistance fighters), the British Empire, was portioned off (South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada went to the US, India has become independent, and the rest of British Africa has gone to Germany and France), the Confederate States, lay in ruins, forced to pay reparations to the United States, and Russia fell apart bitterly. In the 1930s, the Rise of Fascism began. From the Blackshirts in Britain, to the Sons of Dixie in the CSA, the former Entente powers, are radicalised, heavily armed, and ready to retake their empires.

Now, with greater tools of warfare than ever before, the world is ready for another climatic confrontation....

This feels very much like the plot of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series.

An excellent series, mind you. Featherston is a nice fellow.

[Organized States]

Hello, everyone! I given permission to request feedback on an AH RP scenario I've had in my head for a while, so tell me what you guys think.

Dixie Days and Yankee Nights: 1948


The World has been thrown into Chaos once more. Following the Entente's (British Empire, CSA, Italy, and Russia) defeat at the hands of the Central Powers (France, Germany, the US, Austria-Hungry, and Quebecois resistance fighters), the British Empire, was portioned off (South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada went to the US, India has become independent, and the rest of British Africa has gone to Germany and France), the Confederate States, lay in ruins, forced to pay reparations to the United States, and Russia fell apart bitterly. In the 1930s, the Rise of Fascism began. From the Blackshirts in Britain, to the Sons of Dixie in the CSA, the former Entente powers, are radicalised, heavily armed, and ready to retake their empires.

Now, with greater tools of warfare than ever before, the world is ready for another climatic confrontation....

This feels very much like the plot of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series.

It was very much influenced and inspired by the series. However, differences remain, primarily time and setting.

[Waztaskio]

Not being overrun your not. Technologically South Korea wins, but Technology alone doesn't prove that it'll win. Russia in ww2 didn't even have enough weapons for their army, but they still overran the Germans, and won. No real defense against that...

Well, you're forgetting that South Korea has over double the population (as already stated) and has mandatory military service.

Still would be conscripts, which are low in morale. That is one thing North Korea has.

[Mishmahig]

This feels very much like the plot of Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series.

An excellent series, mind you. Featherston is a nice fellow.

Aye, I loved Featherston. His descent into madness -- the slow reveal! -- is wonderful. It sucks you in, and then BAM!

[Organized States]

Well, you're forgetting that South Korea has over double the population (as already stated) and has mandatory military service.

Still would be conscripts, which are low in morale. That is one thing North Korea has.

But the thing is, it would be very difficult for the North to win and occupy the South. If they did win, they'd have to use nuclear weapons, but that would totally devastate the country they are attempting to capture.

[Waztaskio]

Still would be conscripts, which are low in morale. That is one thing North Korea has.

But the thing is, it would be very difficult for the North to win and occupy the South. If they did win, they'd have to use nuclear weapons, but that would totally devastate the country they are attempting to capture.

BUT. China would never allow South Korea to control the North, simply because they hate all the influence the US has, and with them busy in Israel with Russia and all the Arab nations, if South Korea somehow managed to drive them back, China would re-step in with little resistance, finishing South Korea.

[Organized States]

But the thing is, it would be very difficult for the North to win and occupy the South. If they did win, they'd have to use nuclear weapons, but that would totally devastate the country they are attempting to capture.

BUT. China would never allow South Korea to control the North, simply because they hate all the influence the US has, and with them busy in Israel with Russia and all the Arab nations, if South Korea somehow managed to drive them back, China would re-step in with little resistance, finishing South Korea.

The Chinese have too many economic ties with the South to let them go. You're forgetting that the Chinese relationship with North Korea has declined extensively over the years, especially after South Korea became a major economic power.

[Waztaskio]

BUT. China would never allow South Korea to control the North, simply because they hate all the influence the US has, and with them busy in Israel with Russia and all the Arab nations, if South Korea somehow managed to drive them back, China would re-step in with little resistance, finishing South Korea.

The Chinese have too many economic ties with the South to let them go. You're forgetting that the Chinese relationship with North Korea has declined extensively over the years, especially after South Korea became a major economic power.

And that was because, of the assistance it got with the American government. With the US economy going into depression, South Korea would be alone, which you state the war would be won if they advanced into the North. The problem with this, is that even today China claims influence over american allied lands, such as Taiwan for example, and has stated they want all US Influence gone from Asia. With this simple thought in mind, they would rather prefer having the North win in South Korea, then having an American presence, right on their border. That is something China would never allow or North Korea would have been gone a long time ago.

[Aldelxane]

The Chinese have too many economic ties with the South to let them go. You're forgetting that the Chinese relationship with North Korea has declined extensively over the years, especially after South Korea became a major economic power.

And that was because, of the assistance it got with the American government. With the US economy going into depression, South Korea would be alone, which you state the war would be won if they advanced into the North. The problem with this, is that even today China claims influence over american allied lands, such as Taiwan for example, and has stated they want all US Influence gone from Asia. With this simple thought in mind, they would rather prefer having the North win in South Korea, then having an American presence, right on their border. That is something China would never allow or North Korea would have been gone a long time ago.

In that situation China would probably just end up occupying and eventually annexing both Koreas.

[Organized States]

The Chinese have too many economic ties with the South to let them go. You're forgetting that the Chinese relationship with North Korea has declined extensively over the years, especially after South Korea became a major economic power.

And that was because, of the assistance it got with the American government. With the US economy going into depression, South Korea would be alone, which you state the war would be won if they advanced into the North. The problem with this, is that even today China claims influence over american allied lands, such as Taiwan for example, and has stated they want all US Influence gone from Asia. With this simple thought in mind, they would rather prefer having the North win in South Korea, then having an American presence, right on their border. That is something China would never allow or North Korea would have been gone a long time ago.

A fair point.

Perhaps resistance in the South would be commonplace?

[Waztaskio]

And that was because, of the assistance it got with the American government. With the US economy going into depression, South Korea would be alone, which you state the war would be won if they advanced into the North. The problem with this, is that even today China claims influence over american allied lands, such as Taiwan for example, and has stated they want all US Influence gone from Asia. With this simple thought in mind, they would rather prefer having the North win in South Korea, then having an American presence, right on their border. That is something China would never allow or North Korea would have been gone a long time ago.

In that situation China would probably just end up occupying both Koreas.

That is something I would agree with. But I doubt China would administer the Korean area for long, as it would lead to rebellions etc, with it being related to Japanese Presence. So they would set up a new and friendly Korean government, which is acceptable. So, we have two scenarios. A) China helps North Korea win in the South. B) China invades them both, and either occupies or establishes a new friendly government.

[Aldelxane]

In that situation China would probably just end up occupying both Koreas.

That is something I would agree with. But I doubt China would administer the Korean area for long, as it would lead to rebellions etc, with it being related to Japanese Presence. So they would set up a new and friendly Korean government, which is acceptable. So, we have two scenarios. A) China helps North Korea win in the South. B) China invades them both, and either occupies or establishes a new friendly government.

Since China would be fed up with the Kim dynasty for forcing it to get involved in a war, AND Kim Jong Un would likely be dead by that point (either from his illness or from South Korean soldiers), almost definitely the latter.

[Waztaskio]

That is something I would agree with. But I doubt China would administer the Korean area for long, as it would lead to rebellions etc, with it being related to Japanese Presence. So they would set up a new and friendly Korean government, which is acceptable. So, we have two scenarios. A) China helps North Korea win in the South. B) China invades them both, and either occupies or establishes a new friendly government.

Since China would be fed up with the Kim dynasty for forcing it to get involved in a war, AND Kim Jong Un would likely be dead by that point (either from his illness or from South Korean soldiers), almost definitely the latter.

Alright, I might make it so for now China occupies it, while it sets up a new government there.

[Organized States]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

[Paketo]

Waz, why wouldn't japan intervene on South korean side exactly?

[Paketo]

I'm going to start my Dixie Days and Yankee Nights thread.

i love playing as Csa but really hate the concept of fascism so would it be possible to play as a rebel group in CSA with the goal of restoring it to it's original ideas of states rights and such

[Waztaskio]

Waz, why wouldn't japan intervene on South korean side exactly?

Japan and South Korea's so called "Military-Cooperation" isn't so stable. Quote from wikipedia:

In 2012 it was reported that South Korea agreed to sign a military pact with Japan, possibly in response to threats from North Korea and China. The military agreement between South Korea and Japan is a military intelligence-sharing pact.[21] In 2014 Samuel J. Locklear warned that Japan and South Korea's political differences were preventing the two nations militaries from sharing information, undermining the security of both.

With the war in Israel, US Depression, and just the general Chinese threat, deterred them from really wanting to protect Korea, as it would lead to a global economic collapse.

[Paketo]

Waz, why wouldn't japan intervene on South korean side exactly?

Japan and South Korea's so called "Military-Cooperation" isn't so stable. Quote from wikipedia:

In 2012 it was reported that South Korea agreed to sign a military pact with Japan, possibly in response to threats from North Korea and China. The military agreement between South Korea and Japan is a military intelligence-sharing pact.[21] In 2014 Samuel J. Locklear warned that Japan and South Korea's political differences were preventing the two nations militaries from sharing information, undermining the security of both.

With the war in Israel, US Depression, and just the general Chinese threat, deterred them from really wanting to protect Korea, as it would lead to a global economic collapse.

but Japan needs allies against china. If the Us is occupied and the south is lost, that leaves only taiwan.