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[Bujahla]

TBH you'll probably have to make a Cold War RP yourself Buj, since nobody else seems interested in OPing one.

God damn it xD. And there's no interest.

Why can't yall be interested! Go watch The Americans pls.

[Aldelxane]

TBH you'll probably have to make a Cold War RP yourself Buj, since nobody else seems interested in OPing one.

God damn it xD. And there's no interest.

Why can't yall be interested! Go watch The Americans pls.

I'll be interested when you come up with a way to make it an interesting RP. It shouldn't be too hard for me at least. I've always been somewhat fascinated by the Cold War.

[Mishmahig]

TBH you'll probably have to make a Cold War RP yourself Buj, since nobody else seems interested in OPing one.

God damn it xD. And there's no interest.

Why can't yall be interested! Go watch The Americans pls.

I'd be interested if there was a degree of complexity more than "Capitalist vs Communist" that I feel it would devolve into.

What do you suggest to avoid that?

Edit: Also, nukes. Rules on nukes.

[Bujahla]

God damn it xD. And there's no interest.

Why can't yall be interested! Go watch The Americans pls.

I'd be interested if there was a degree of complexity more than "Capitalist vs Communist" that I feel it would devolve into.

What do you suggest to avoid that?

Edit: Also, nukes. Rules on nukes.

How so on Cap-Com? Like a third side, or do you want lots of nations to have blurred ideologies?

[Alleniana]

it's as easy to interpret the ASoIaF world as geopolitic situations IRL as it is to interpret Frozen as a specific political/social message.

Frozen is also geopolitical

It's all Scandinavia. Arendelle is Norway, Weselton is Sweden and the Southern Isles are Denmark. Kven is a Sami and Elsa is a witch.

:3

yes, yes, but I mean the interpretations you can apply. You can easily say Frozen is about homosexuality, or about Christianity, or about monarchy, or about superstition, or it's a plain no-frills Disney movie about love.

1. I mean, that's the entire point of the RP. What if China got out of hand? How far could it go?
2. Or, rather, people love interpreting shit.

2. Or because the map of Westeros is like entirely based off Great Britain and Ireland

2. Ehh, hardly. It's like saying Africa is based off Australia, and when you rotate them, it's easy to say so.
Dorne can easily represent analogues for southern Spain, Spain as a whole, the Algarve, north Africa, the Mediterranean as a whole, Cornwall, Languedoc area, Peloponnese/Crete, etc. the North can represent Scotland, the British Isles, Norway, Scandinavia, all of northern Europe, the Arctic, Siberia, northern Germany, etc.

Frozen is also geopolitical

It's all Scandinavia. Arendelle is Norway, Weselton is Sweden and the Southern Isles are Denmark. Kven is a Sami and Elsa is a witch.

:3



2. Or because the map of Westeros is like entirely based off Great Britain and Ireland

Map of mega-nords:
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Nordic-Em ... -394933869

Map of mega-ottomans:
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2 ... 6j41cl.png

They look terribly blobby...

@cold war, phoo, medieval ftw

[Reatra]

I want an easternized world RP

[Mishmahig]

I'd be interested if there was a degree of complexity more than "Capitalist vs Communist" that I feel it would devolve into.

What do you suggest to avoid that?

Edit: Also, nukes. Rules on nukes.

How so on Cap-Com? Like a third side, or do you want lots of nations to have blurred ideologies?

As in, diplomatic relations aren't reduced to:

<America, to random country>: Are you Capitalist or Commie?
<Random Country>: Uhm....Capitalist? 'Murica?
<America>: Good. * wanders off to find a Communist to beat up.
<USSR wanders in>: Filthy pig dog, or workers' paradise?
<Random Country>: Workers' Paradise, I think?

* sounds from the background as America pummels some Latin America communist nation *

Essentially, complexity is needed, or else the RP gets very boring, very quickly.

[Caltarania]

2. Ehh, hardly. It's like saying Africa is based off Australia, and when you rotate them, it's easy to say so.
Dorne can easily represent analogues for southern Spain, Spain as a whole, the Algarve, north Africa, the Mediterranean as a whole, Cornwall, Languedoc area, Peloponnese/Crete, etc. the North can represent Scotland, the British Isles, Norway, Scandinavia, all of northern Europe, the Arctic, Siberia, northern Germany, etc.

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

[Reatra]

2. Ehh, hardly. It's like saying Africa is based off Australia, and when you rotate them, it's easy to say so.
Dorne can easily represent analogues for southern Spain, Spain as a whole, the Algarve, north Africa, the Mediterranean as a whole, Cornwall, Languedoc area, Peloponnese/Crete, etc. the North can represent Scotland, the British Isles, Norway, Scandinavia, all of northern Europe, the Arctic, Siberia, northern Germany, etc.

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

I agree. Especially the wall. I mean, a all across the north that us a thousand+ years old and defends the civilized south against the barbaric north.

[Alleniana]

2. Ehh, hardly. It's like saying Africa is based off Australia, and when you rotate them, it's easy to say so.
Dorne can easily represent analogues for southern Spain, Spain as a whole, the Algarve, north Africa, the Mediterranean as a whole, Cornwall, Languedoc area, Peloponnese/Crete, etc. the North can represent Scotland, the British Isles, Norway, Scandinavia, all of northern Europe, the Arctic, Siberia, northern Germany, etc.

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

Oh really to me it just looks like a bunch of random shapes tbh I did not see any of those lol

[Reatra]

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

I see your point, but done of those things were really stretching it...

And I'm still 100% sure King Roberts death (oh right spoiler XD) and Joffery's inheritance, and not being the rightful heir and all are based on emperor Nero.

[Alleniana]

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

I see your point, but done of those things were really stretching it...

And I'm still 100% sure King Roberts death (oh right spoiler XD) and Joffery's inheritance, and not being the rightful heir and all are based on emperor Nero.

So, any situation in which a king dies and the heir is not his child, but is supposed to be = Nero?

[Reatra]

I see your point, but done of those things were really stretching it...

And I'm still 100% sure King Roberts death (oh right spoiler XD) and Joffery's inheritance, and not being the rightful heir and all are based on emperor Nero.

So, any situation in which a king dies and the heir is not his child, but is supposed to be = Nero?

Nope. I don't know if I have time to explain. I'm supposed to be sleeping.

Ah fuqqit.

Neros stepfather was not the "rightful" heir to Rome. He was the only one left after a royal family massacre. (Not an usurping, I know, but still)

Trajan was a good(ish) emperor, and he married his niece who already had a son, Nero. She convinced Trajan to appoint Nero his heir instead of his son, and then she had Trajan killed. Nero inheirited Rome, famously watched Rome burn and sang about the fall of Troy, and is generally accepted to be the worst Empeorr ever. (I've inly half-way through the second book of ASoIaF, but I know Joffery does stuff that is even more like Nero)

Sound familiar?

[Caltarania]

Not really, pretty sure it's the British Isles.

EDIT: And this.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

Yes, except for the fact that everything else about Westeros is relatable to Britain and British history. The Northmen literally have Yorkshire accents and believe in honour and 'the Old Gods' and led their own revolution. Yorkshiremen believe(d) in honour and was one of the last vestiges of Catholicism - the Old Faith - in England, and led various revolts to put a Tyke on the throne and then, later on, but a Catholic on it. They are rivals with the Lannisters of Casterly rock, like how Yorkshire is rivaled with Lancashire, of which the capital is Lancaster.

Dorne is part of Westeros, but has a very distinct culture and is much, much warmer than the rest of the nation. King's Landing is where most of Westeros' budget is spent, like London, and the very idea of Westeros was founded by Invaders from the Mainland continent. Targaryans = Normans.

etc. etc.

[Alleniana]

So, any situation in which a king dies and the heir is not his child, but is supposed to be = Nero?

Nope. I don't know if I have time to explain. I'm supposed to be sleeping.

Ah fuqqit.

Neros stepfather was not the "rightful" heir to Rome. He was the only one left after a royal family massacre. (Not an usurping, I know, but still)

Trajan was a good(ish) emperor, and he married his niece who already had a son, Nero. She convinced Trajan to appoint Nero his heir instead of his son, and then she had Trajan killed. Nero inheirited Rome, famously watched Rome burn and sang about the fall of Troy, and is generally accepted to be the worst Empeorr ever. (I've inly half-way through the second book of ASoIaF, but I know Joffery does stuff that is even more like Nero)

Sound familiar?

Uhh... I would tell you why it doesn't work, but that's a spoiler.
The seed is strong.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd show how you could do that with the Italian peninsula, Scandinavia, Europe as a whole, etc. including borders and stuff
Frankly, it means nothing more than the fact that land has lots of shapes.

I made this map with no intention to have similarities to anything:
http://i.imgur.com/UaFyCG8.png
And yet, the bottom continent looks like Westeros on its side, the northeastern continent (separated from the central one by the inland sea) looks like upside down Ireland again, the big sea in the very centre looks like the Mediterranean with an upside-down Black Sea, the central continent looks like Italy turned on its side, or perhaps the Mexican Empire inverted and turned on its side, the upside-down Ireland also looks like Australia on its side, the islands that are split into two main parts can be the Falklands, the archipelago in the far southwest looks like the island chain from the Peloponnese to the Dodecanese, etc.

Yes, except for the fact that everything else about Westeros is relatable to Britain and British history. The Northmen literally have Yorkshire accents and believe in honour and 'the Old Gods' and led their own revolution. Yorkshiremen believe(d) in honour and was one of the last vestiges of Catholicism - the Old Faith - in England, and led various revolts to put a Tyke on the throne and then, later on, but a Catholic on it. They are rivals with the Lannisters of Casterly rock, like how Yorkshire is rivaled with Lancashire, of which the capital is Lancaster.

Dorne is part of Westeros, but has a very distinct culture and is much, much warmer than the rest of the nation. King's Landing is where most of Westeros' budget is spent, like London, and the very idea of Westeros was founded by Invaders from the Mainland continent. Targaryans = Normans.

etc. etc.

If you want, Scandinavia works with it too. The northerners have a huge amount of land, follow an old, non-organised, deity-less religion (paganisms of the Saami, Lapps, Finns, etc.) They were driven there from the south by the Andals (Germanic) but are now heavily influenced by them anyway. Feudalism emerged in the south and spread north, but notably in places like the clans' lands (Wull, Norrey, Flint, Liddle, etc.) has not taken over as it does completely dominate in Storm's End, etc.

They are rivals with the Germanic peoples, who've formed kingdoms, and are lions (Norway, Finland, Denmark and Sweden are all represented by lions). To the northern areas (north-easty IRL) is lots of unknown cold land, hordes possibly coming from up there (Russia). Lots of subjugated, notable cultural groups (Gotland, Jamtland, etc.) and islands all around. Wildlings could perhaps be represented by the nomads of the north, those who aren't lumped with the north, or maybe Karelians, Ugrics, etc.

I'd go deeper, but I think the point is made.

[Skaldia]

Frozen is also geopolitical

It's all Scandinavia. Arendelle is Norway, Weselton is Sweden and the Southern Isles are Denmark. Kven is a Sami and Elsa is a witch.

:3



2. Or because the map of Westeros is like entirely based off Great Britain and Ireland

Map of mega-nords:
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Nordic-Em ... -394933869

Map of mega-ottomans:
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2 ... 6j41cl.png

Awesome. Neato

Working on the Nords vs. Ottomans vs. China. I've got Mediterranean. Middle East. Far East. Australia. Northern Europe. Western Europe. all done. Working on Easter Europe. Gotta start the Americas and most of Africa.

Great. Actually looking forward to this.

[Alleniana]

hey gaiz gaiz
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313356
historical population sheize

[Skaldia]

hey gaiz gaiz
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313356
historical population sheize

Nifty. And very, very useful.

[Alleniana]

hey gaiz gaiz
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=313356
historical population sheize

Nifty. And very, very useful.

I was hoping it'd have more discussion, though, and that looks pretty unlikely. :/

[Skaldia]

The title of a budding RP idea.

[Caltarania]

I just read through the old HoM wiki.

/crei

[Bujahla]

Finished the ending to the second season of The Americans. Holy shit. I want this Cold War RP now. 2nd Gen Illegal that's important in the FBI/CIA. Holy shit.

[Caltarania]

Finished the ending to the second season of The Americans. Holy shit. I want this Cold War RP now. 2nd Gen Illegal that's important in the FBI/CIA. Holy shit.

-still doesn't know what this Americans thing is
-still doesn't want to

[Bujahla]

Finished the ending to the second season of The Americans. Holy shit. I want this Cold War RP now. 2nd Gen Illegal that's important in the FBI/CIA. Holy shit.

-still doesn't know what this Americans thing is
-still doesn't want to

Ignorance will fuck u up mate.

It's a tv show about Soviet illegals living in the US in the 1980's.