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Caltarania
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:36 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:From Dust to Gold:

The year is 1900 CE; it has been 86 years since the infamous 'Treaty of Florence' was signed, formally ending the Napoleonic Wars on the terms that Napoleon stepped down from the title of Emperor, France remained a republic and it's best guarded secret that which had near won it the war - Alchemy - was to be distributed among the other great European powers. Perhaps it did not occur to Paré in the 1500's, when he discovered the power of Alchemy on a battlefield as a surgeon, that his discovery would allow France to overcome the combined might of Europe in order to hold the line in the final hours of 1814. Indeed, without the Alchemical power of the French Alchemist guilds, it's debatable whether the French Republic would have been able to push for the favourable terms that the Treaty of Florence offered.

But, either way, the Science of Alchemy had now been released to the world; it's power and splendor dwarfing the British achievement that was the Industrial Revolution. This, however, was not to continue, as in 1816 the now-famous Scottish 'Father of Alcho-Industry' Robert Davidson built on James Watt's theories and finally made the connections between Alchemy, Chemistry and Industry allowing for the British to utterly dominate in the colonial theatre, and allowing vast expansions into science and technology that had not been seen since that of the Renaissance. It also lead to Davidson's knighthood and entrance to the 'Royal Alchemical Guild of Britain'. The Royal Guild had long since competed with the French 'Ligue Française des Alchimistes', along with other Guilds such as the Dutch 'Organisatie van de Nederlandse en Vlaamse Alchemisten'. Indeed, the guilds of Europe - and, soon, of the Far East and of the Americas - would continue to compete and drive competition between themselves to drive the advancement of Alchemy.

However, Alchemy was not the only science that had been unleashed by Paré. His new-founded field of thought spurred on the advancement of many other sciences, such as Astrology and Psychokinesis. Alchemy, as aforementioned, has also expanded beyond Europe. The Federated States of America, the Empire of Amazonia and the Mexican Republic in the Americas too have Alchemical Guilds, along with the Japanese Empire and Chinese Confederacy in the Far East. They have long since begun to catch up with the European Powers, and now they hunger for the Pacific and Asian territories held by the European invaders...

So where will you stand? In this world where Alchemy is both a Science and an Art of War, where Telekinetics can change the course of battle and where Astrologists can predict the future? Where will you stand in this world where dust can turn to gold?


I will take over the world as Switzerland.

We have dust AND gold to start out with.


xD

Hint: The Gold isn't whats important. I presume the value would have decreased due to the fact it's easy to get due to Alchemy. The real difference is that Alchemists - when extremely skilled - have the potential to decimate entire armies with the click of a finger.
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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:39 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Reatra wrote:
I will take over the world as Switzerland.

We have dust AND gold to start out with.


xD

Hint: The Gold isn't whats important. I presume the value would have decreased due to the fact it's easy to get due to Alchemy. The real difference is that Alchemists - when extremely skilled - have the potential to decimate entire armies with the click of a finger.


Exactly. We've been turning dust to gold for centuries. Nobody knew.


Now they will.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:40 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
xD

Hint: The Gold isn't whats important. I presume the value would have decreased due to the fact it's easy to get due to Alchemy. The real difference is that Alchemists - when extremely skilled - have the potential to decimate entire armies with the click of a finger.


Exactly. We've been turning dust to gold for centuries. Nobody knew.


Now they will.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYAYAYAYAYOYOYOYOYOYODYODELYODEL-EH-EE-OOOOOH!


What so your battle plan is to throw gold over the Alps?
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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:41 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Exactly. We've been turning dust to gold for centuries. Nobody knew.


Now they will.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYAYAYAYAYOYOYOYOYOYODYODELYODEL-EH-EE-OOOOOH!


What so your battle plan is to throw gold over the Alps?


Nu.

Yodel-masters to pierce their armor. Then golden bullets to kill them.


Then we clean up very fast after the battle.
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:42 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
What so your battle plan is to throw gold over the Alps?


Nu.

Yodel-masters to pierce their armor. Then golden bullets to kill them.


Then we clean up very fast after the battle.


Ah.

I mean they're not fucking werewolves, surely lead bullets would work fine... and probably better?
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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:45 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Nu.

Yodel-masters to pierce their armor. Then golden bullets to kill them.


Then we clean up very fast after the battle.


Ah.

I mean they're not fucking werewolves, surely lead bullets would work fine... and probably better?


Everyone knows that werewolves need silver bullets.


And everyone knows that the Germans and French are allergic to gold.
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:46 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Ah.

I mean they're not fucking werewolves, surely lead bullets would work fine... and probably better?


Everyone knows that werewolves need silver bullets.


And everyone knows that the Germans and French are allergic to gold.


Silver, gold. With alchemy they're basically the same thing. Though of different worth (equivalent exchange is obviously a core theory of Alchemy).

I think everyone is allergic to gold when it's hitting you at 1500 metres a second.
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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:48 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Everyone knows that werewolves need silver bullets.


And everyone knows that the Germans and French are allergic to gold.


Silver, gold. With alchemy they're basically the same thing. Though of different worth (equivalent exchange is obviously a core theory of Alchemy).

I think everyone is allergic to gold when it's hitting you at 1500 metres a second.


Exactly.


Golden artillery rounds too.
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:49 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Silver, gold. With alchemy they're basically the same thing. Though of different worth (equivalent exchange is obviously a core theory of Alchemy).

I think everyone is allergic to gold when it's hitting you at 1500 metres a second.


Exactly.


Golden artillery rounds too.


Overkill much?
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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:50 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Exactly.


Golden artillery rounds too.


Overkill much?


Nope. Alchemy.


BUT NO GOLDEN SWORDS! I PLAY MINECRAFT! I KNOW HOW THAT WIRKS OUT.
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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:50 pm

Caltarania wrote:From Dust to Gold:

The year is 1900 CE; it has been 86 years since the infamous 'Treaty of Florence' was signed, formally ending the Napoleonic Wars on the terms that Napoleon stepped down from the title of Emperor, France remained a republic and it's best guarded secret that which had near won it the war - Alchemy - was to be distributed among the other great European powers. Perhaps it did not occur to Paré in the 1500's, when he discovered the power of Alchemy on a battlefield as a surgeon, that his discovery would allow France to overcome the combined might of Europe in order to hold the line in the final hours of 1814. Indeed, without the Alchemical power of the French Alchemist guilds, it's debatable whether the French Republic would have been able to push for the favourable terms that the Treaty of Florence offered.

But, either way, the Science of Alchemy had now been released to the world; it's power and splendor dwarfing the British achievement that was the Industrial Revolution. This, however, was not to continue, as in 1816 the now-famous Scottish 'Father of Alcho-Industry' Robert Davidson built on James Watt's theories and finally made the connections between Alchemy, Chemistry and Industry allowing for the British to utterly dominate in the colonial theatre, and allowing vast expansions into science and technology that had not been seen since that of the Renaissance. It also lead to Davidson's knighthood and entrance to the 'Royal Alchemical Guild of Britain'. The Royal Guild had long since competed with the French 'Ligue Française des Alchimistes', along with other Guilds such as the Dutch 'Organisatie van de Nederlandse en Vlaamse Alchemisten'. Indeed, the guilds of Europe - and, soon, of the Far East and of the Americas - would continue to compete and drive competition between themselves to drive the advancement of Alchemy.

However, Alchemy was not the only science that had been unleashed by Paré. His new-founded field of thought spurred on the advancement of many other sciences, such as Astrology and Psychokinesis. Alchemy, as aforementioned, has also expanded beyond Europe. The Federated States of America, the Empire of Amazonia and the Mexican Republic in the Americas too have Alchemical Guilds, along with the Japanese Empire and Chinese Confederacy in the Far East. They have long since begun to catch up with the European Powers, and now they hunger for the Pacific and Asian territories held by the European invaders...

So where will you stand? In this world where Alchemy is both a Science and an Art of War, where Telekinetics can change the course of battle and where Astrologists can predict the future? Where will you stand in this world where dust can turn to gold?

That sounds very very interesting, although I think the astrologists might be taken as an excuse to metagame, which would be bad.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:54 pm

Reatra wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Overkill much?


Nope. Alchemy.


BUT NO GOLDEN SWORDS! I PLAY MINECRAFT! I KNOW HOW THAT WIRKS OUT.


xD

Aldelxane wrote:
Caltarania wrote:From Dust to Gold:

The year is 1900 CE; it has been 86 years since the infamous 'Treaty of Florence' was signed, formally ending the Napoleonic Wars on the terms that Napoleon stepped down from the title of Emperor, France remained a republic and it's best guarded secret that which had near won it the war - Alchemy - was to be distributed among the other great European powers. Perhaps it did not occur to Paré in the 1500's, when he discovered the power of Alchemy on a battlefield as a surgeon, that his discovery would allow France to overcome the combined might of Europe in order to hold the line in the final hours of 1814. Indeed, without the Alchemical power of the French Alchemist guilds, it's debatable whether the French Republic would have been able to push for the favourable terms that the Treaty of Florence offered.

But, either way, the Science of Alchemy had now been released to the world; it's power and splendor dwarfing the British achievement that was the Industrial Revolution. This, however, was not to continue, as in 1816 the now-famous Scottish 'Father of Alcho-Industry' Robert Davidson built on James Watt's theories and finally made the connections between Alchemy, Chemistry and Industry allowing for the British to utterly dominate in the colonial theatre, and allowing vast expansions into science and technology that had not been seen since that of the Renaissance. It also lead to Davidson's knighthood and entrance to the 'Royal Alchemical Guild of Britain'. The Royal Guild had long since competed with the French 'Ligue Française des Alchimistes', along with other Guilds such as the Dutch 'Organisatie van de Nederlandse en Vlaamse Alchemisten'. Indeed, the guilds of Europe - and, soon, of the Far East and of the Americas - would continue to compete and drive competition between themselves to drive the advancement of Alchemy.

However, Alchemy was not the only science that had been unleashed by Paré. His new-founded field of thought spurred on the advancement of many other sciences, such as Astrology and Psychokinesis. Alchemy, as aforementioned, has also expanded beyond Europe. The Federated States of America, the Empire of Amazonia and the Mexican Republic in the Americas too have Alchemical Guilds, along with the Japanese Empire and Chinese Confederacy in the Far East. They have long since begun to catch up with the European Powers, and now they hunger for the Pacific and Asian territories held by the European invaders...

So where will you stand? In this world where Alchemy is both a Science and an Art of War, where Telekinetics can change the course of battle and where Astrologists can predict the future? Where will you stand in this world where dust can turn to gold?

That sounds very very interesting, although I think the astrologists might be taken as an excuse to metagame, which would be bad.


Already thought of a fix for that :P

Astrology cannot predict things with complete accuracy. It's vague, and very riddle-like in nature. Only extremely experienced individuals can understand such things, and all of them belong to either a guild or are independent. None are loyal to nations completely. (OOCly, the OP board would control who can use Astrology, basically).
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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:58 pm

Another interesting thing is that for the first couple years of the existence of alchemy, all it would take would be a few rogue alchemists to topple most non-European nations, making AH changes very easy.
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:59 pm

Aldelxane wrote:Another interesting thing is that for the first couple years of the existence of alchemy, all it would take would be a few rogue alchemists to topple most nations, making AH changes very easy.


Within reason.

Alchemy was a French secret up until 1814, remember, and even within France it only really took off at around the 1700's as it became a way to compete with British industry.
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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:02 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:Another interesting thing is that for the first couple years of the existence of alchemy, all it would take would be a few rogue alchemists to topple most nations, making AH changes very easy.


Within reason.

Alchemy was a French secret up until 1814, remember, and even within France it only really took off at around the 1700's as it became a way to compete with British industry.

True, but you see what I mean. It'd be something like the existence nuclear armed terrorists in 1945, before people really understood what nukes did and how to defend against them, which could cause profound ramifications on the geopolitical landscape.

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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:05 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
Within reason.

Alchemy was a French secret up until 1814, remember, and even within France it only really took off at around the 1700's as it became a way to compete with British industry.

True, but you see what I mean. It'd be something like the existence nuclear armed terrorists in 1945, before people really understood what nukes did and how to defend against them, which could cause profound ramifications on the geopolitical landscape.


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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:08 pm

Reatra wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:True, but you see what I mean. It'd be something like the existence nuclear armed terrorists in 1945, before people really understood what nukes did and how to defend against them, which could cause profound ramifications on the geopolitical landscape.


OMIGURD ROGUE SWISS YODELING ALCHEMISTS!

By 1900 governments would probably understand and be able to defend against alchemists (like governments in 2014 that have missiles to intercept nukes), but for a while that'd actually be a danger.

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Postby Reatra » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:09 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Reatra wrote:
OMIGURD ROGUE SWISS YODELING ALCHEMISTS!

By 1900 governments would probably understand and be able to defend against alchemists (like governments in 2014 that have missiles to intercept nukes), but for a while that'd actually be a danger.


By 1900 Yodelers are unstoppable.

This is fun! I literally had to look up Swiss stereotypes.
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Postby Bujahla » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:40 pm

Working on the Nords vs. Ottomans vs. China. I've got Mediterranean. Middle East. Far East. Australia. Northern Europe. Western Europe. all done. Working on Easter Europe. Gotta start the Americas and most of Africa.
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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:43 pm

Bujahla wrote:Working on the Nords vs. Ottomans vs. China. I've got Mediterranean. Middle East. Far East. Australia. Northern Europe. Western Europe. all done. Working on Easter Europe. Gotta start the Americas and most of Africa.

What do you think of Calt's RP idea?

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Postby Bujahla » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:55 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Bujahla wrote:Working on the Nords vs. Ottomans vs. China. I've got Mediterranean. Middle East. Far East. Australia. Northern Europe. Western Europe. all done. Working on Easter Europe. Gotta start the Americas and most of Africa.

What do you think of Calt's RP idea?


Meh. Im not one for altering sciences stuff.

I just want Cold War, but I want a good cold war damn it xD
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Nah, son. Britain was all like "yo, why my colonies be all uppity an' shit?!" And Lord Durham laid it straight: "they be wantin' legislation with representation, dawg."


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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:56 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:What do you think of Calt's RP idea?


Meh. Im not one for altering sciences stuff.

I just want Cold War, but I want a good cold war damn it xD

What do you mean by "good cold war"?
And you still haven't answered my question about how exactly a Soviet Reagan would work.

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Postby Bujahla » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:58 pm

Aldelxane wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Meh. Im not one for altering sciences stuff.

I just want Cold War, but I want a good cold war damn it xD

What do you mean by "good cold war"?
And you still haven't answered my question about how exactly a Soviet Reagan would work.


Oh sorry. And a good cold war meaning one that people are actually interested in RPing.
Soviet Reagan? He does what Reagan did. Put military over budget and blow that up. Trick US intelligence agencies and start to heat the war up. Is more active in proxy wars and funding anti-capitalist rebels. Goes "conservative communist" (as in more towards the left).
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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:00 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Aldelxane wrote:What do you mean by "good cold war"?
And you still haven't answered my question about how exactly a Soviet Reagan would work.


Oh sorry. And a good cold war meaning one that people are actually interested in RPing.
Soviet Reagan? He does what Reagan did. Put military over budget and blow that up. Trick US intelligence agencies and start to heat the war up. Is more active in proxy wars and funding anti-capitalist rebels. Goes "conservative communist" (as in more towards the left).

So a militaristic orthodox Marxist.

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Postby Aldelxane » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:39 pm

TBH you'll probably have to make a Cold War RP yourself Buj, since nobody else seems interested in OPing one.

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