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Photana
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Postby Photana » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:48 pm

Skaldia wrote:
Photana wrote:
Well, you should do something with it. I'd hate to see such a well thought-out idea just die.


I would welcome ideas or input. I believe the best way to start is creating a factbook topic. Would that be feasible do you think?


I don't see why not.
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Skaldia
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Postby Skaldia » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:05 pm

Photana wrote:
Skaldia wrote:
I would welcome ideas or input. I believe the best way to start is creating a factbook topic. Would that be feasible do you think?


I don't see why not.


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Bujahla
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Postby Bujahla » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:06 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Rephesus wrote:Why would Iran, the largest and most powerful Shia state in the world, support a Sunni terrorist group that wants to kill Shia Muslims? I mean, if anything they'd be funding Hezbollah, who is actually also fighting ISIS.


There are many things that don't make sense in that history to be honest.


Which are making me skeptical of the RP. I would like to see a modern RP based on a continuation of the cold war, but the history either needs to be more fleshed out, or allow for more player creative apps.
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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:09 pm

Bujahla wrote:
The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
There are many things that don't make sense in that history to be honest.


Which are making me skeptical of the RP. I would like to see a modern RP based on a continuation of the cold war, but the history either needs to be more fleshed out, or allow for more player creative apps.

I agree. If we are going to have a pre-made history covering decades of different AH changes, AND have a successful RP, it needs to be detailed.

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Postby Bujahla » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:30 pm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ategy.html

In light of this, I dont think we would be able to see a pro-ISIS Iran.
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Postby Aldelxane » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:32 pm

Bujahla wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/06/america-s-secret-isis-strategy.html

In light of this, I dont think we would be able to see a pro-ISIS Iran.

I didn't see the part in Krys's history where it says Iran supports ISIS, but if it exists I agree 100%. Anti-Shia extremists and and a majority Shia nation can't really be friends, and OTL Iran's actions support the claim that they are more than likely to be enemies.
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Postby Kryskov » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:26 pm

Guys this problem's been resolved.

I didn't really want to cover the Iranians, IS' rise, and all that, but people kept asking for more history. I was going to leave all that up to applicants, but no.

So I suggest before you judge me and claim "oh, you're writing too much history!" that you cut me some slack because I'm getting tired of dealing with other people's shit both IRL and on NS. If you want to edit some of it, that's fine, but don't criticize it because neither the idea nor I deserve it.

I wrote it to please you people. Are you pleased? I guess not. So the RP's now cancelled.

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Postby Bujahla » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:29 pm

Kryskov wrote:Guys this problem's been resolved.

I didn't really want to cover the Iranians, IS' rise, and all that, but people kept asking for more history. I was going to leave all that up to applicants, but no.

So I suggest before you judge me and claim "oh, you're writing too much history!" that you cut me some slack because I'm getting tired of dealing with other people's shit both IRL and on NS. If you want to edit some of it, that's fine, but don't criticize it because neither the idea nor I deserve it.

I wrote it to please you people. Are you pleased? I guess not. So the RP's now cancelled.


Dude, you need to calm down.

We are talking about what we can do to fix it. We gave you solutions, but it just doesn't seem for that one thing to work out. If you don't want to cover the Iranians and IS and that shit, then we don't cover it since we don't have to. It's not that big of a deal.
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Kryskov
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Postby Kryskov » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:33 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Kryskov wrote:Guys this problem's been resolved.

I didn't really want to cover the Iranians, IS' rise, and all that, but people kept asking for more history. I was going to leave all that up to applicants, but no.

So I suggest before you judge me and claim "oh, you're writing too much history!" that you cut me some slack because I'm getting tired of dealing with other people's shit both IRL and on NS. If you want to edit some of it, that's fine, but don't criticize it because neither the idea nor I deserve it.

I wrote it to please you people. Are you pleased? I guess not. So the RP's now cancelled.


Dude, you need to calm down.

We are talking about what we can do to fix it. We gave you solutions, but it just doesn't seem for that one thing to work out. If you don't want to cover the Iranians and IS and that shit, then we don't cover it since we don't have to. It's not that big of a deal.

The Iranians do not support IS, IIRC. They gave limited support to Al-Qaeda I think. So I'm angry over that too.

You gave me very little in terms of solutions, and then when I say "so change Iran to Iraq," you people stay upset over Iran. What the hell?

I wouldn't be as aggravated if it wasn't for comments like "blahblahblah makes me skeptical of the RP." Because then you are the ones making a big deal out of it.

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The Grand Republic of Hannover
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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:42 pm

Bujahla wrote:
Kryskov wrote:Guys this problem's been resolved.

I didn't really want to cover the Iranians, IS' rise, and all that, but people kept asking for more history. I was going to leave all that up to applicants, but no.

So I suggest before you judge me and claim "oh, you're writing too much history!" that you cut me some slack because I'm getting tired of dealing with other people's shit both IRL and on NS. If you want to edit some of it, that's fine, but don't criticize it because neither the idea nor I deserve it.

I wrote it to please you people. Are you pleased? I guess not. So the RP's now cancelled.


Dude, you need to calm down.

We are talking about what we can do to fix it. We gave you solutions, but it just doesn't seem for that one thing to work out. If you don't want to cover the Iranians and IS and that shit, then we don't cover it since we don't have to. It's not that big of a deal.


And to think this is what I have to go through in the Forge of Empires RP :lol2:

(But for real, welcome to my world)
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:43 pm

Revamped the Kentucky compromise, and adjusted the Polish Independence as well.

- The Kentucky Compromise - At a meeting held in Lexington, Kentucky in 1860, the federal government and state governments make an agreement termed the "Kentucky Compromise" that grants the state's greater autonomy and more rights. Later in the meeting, the south agrees to abolish slavery as long as the federal government assisted in the development and industrialization of the southern states. It was also agreed upon that as westward expansion took place, new states admitted would be free to choose if slavery was allowed or not without any bias caused by either the South or the North. The compromise deflates the tensions brewing between the Northern and Southern states almost immediately.

- The Second Mexican-American War - After nationalists seize power in Mexico in 1899 , they begin to align themselves with strong European nations in order to ascertain resources so that they could launch an invasion to gain control over former Mexican territories that the U.S had taken away from them. After attaining new military equipment, the Mexican Federal Republic invaded Texas and rapidly began to take various swaths of land. Before too long, the Mexican army had gained control of the Texan territory and had repelled an unmotivated American military from retaking the state. The nationalists in Mexico didn't stop there but continue to invade the Arizonian, Californian, Nevadan, and New Mexican territories of the United States. The Mexican Army was successful in all campaigns besides the attempts to take California and Nevada. After several failed attempts to retake the land, the United States was forced to make a peace treaty that handed over Nevada and California to Mexico.

- The American Civil War and the Great European War - In 1905, the United States began to face severe internal unrest from states due to the federal government's failure to secure American interests following the Second Mexican-American war, as the tensions between states grew higher and higher in America, Europe was becoming more unstable by the minute as well after the Russian Revolution of 1905 and takes place successfully, disposing of the Tsar and his government and begins to spread revolutionary ideas across the continent. Breaking off all general diplomatic relations besides trade, the new Russian government looks to focus strictly on internal security following the revolution. In order to secure it's own stability back home, the German Empire invades Russia to reinstate order to the rightful government. Serbia, one of the few remaining diplomatic allies of Russia, declares war on the German Empire. Austria-Hungary then declares war on Serbia for antagonizing an ally of the state.

As the transitional Russian government begins to fail, a revolutionary named Vladimir Lenin begins a movement for a new revolution, gaining support of the revolutionaries from the 1905 Revolution under one banner to ascertain a new republic. With the stability in Eastern Europe dissipating, Western Europe enters the war to try and end the violence as they attack Germany. Germany and Lenin agree in 1906 that if Lenin is successful in Russia, then Germany would make peace with Russia and begin focusing in on the Western front and Russia would pull out of the war. After Theodore Roosevelt announces his intentions to become involved in the war as well, the states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New York secede from the United States and form the Federal Republic of America as Roosevelt's intentions were the last betrayal of the state's interests. Soon after, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin all secede and join the new nation. This secessionist movement ignites the American Civil War and prevents the United States from joining the war in Europe.

In early 1907, the Russian government completely dissolves as Vladimir Lenin leads a group of militants into the State Duma and effectively suceeds in overthrowing it and establishing the new republic of The Soviet-Socialist Republic of Russia, outlying states of the Russia heartland are granted independence by the former government in it's final act as authority over Russia. Lenin assumes leadership of the new nation and employs Leon Trotsky to organize invasions of former Russian territories while he negotiates a peace settlement with Germany.

In North America, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona begin a revolution to try and break away from the Mexican Federal Republic. The United States agrees to come to their aide, despite being locked in a civil war. The Federal Republic of America gains control of Missouri in the bloodiest battle of the war; the Battle of Kansas City.

At the beginning of 1908, Russia officially makes a peace deal with Germany that includes German assistance in retaking the former Imperial claims of the Russian Empire. Russia soon takes back the the transitional states Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania forming the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics within a period of 4 months. Without Russian backing Serbia, is annexed by Austria-Hungary two months later.

In confidential meetings, France and Great Britain persuade Italy to attack Austria-Hungary while the former two launch a major ground assault on Germany. The campaigns ultimately result in failure and a counteroffensive by the German Empire that results in Paris being occupied by German forces and in early 1909, the Entente powers, whom are experience low morale from the domestic populace and from soldiers, seek for an armistice. A peace treaty is officially signed later that year, forcing France to give up all colonial claims in return for authority over occupied territory being handed back over to the French government, while also forcing Great Britain to cede it's colonial claims as a result of instigating further conflict in Europe and causing destabilization of the continent. Britain mainly agrees to avoid further conflict with Germany and internal unrest resulting from prolonged conflict.

In North America, the United States succeeds in assisting the revolution against Mexico and annexes their former territories of New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas. Meanwhile, the Federal Republic of America has lost control of Missouri but, at the same time, ascertained control of Nebraska, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. After a stalemate for another two years, The United States sees that they have no chance at winning the war and recognizes the Federal Republic of America in 1911, after a bloody six year war.

- Serbian Revolution of 1921 - After 10 years of harsh treatment and punishment from the Austria-Hungarians, ethnic Serbians take arms against the government in attempt to reform an independent state. Rebels reach out to the Soviet Union for assistance. The Soviet Union, not wanting to disrupt the peace between Germany and the Union, reluctantly decline at first. The Serbian Revolution appears to be on the verge of defeat when unidentified assailants arrive and assist the Revolution.

The assailants along with Serbian revolutionaries launch separate assaults on Budapest and Vienna, forcing Austria-Hungary to drop it's claims in Serbia. The power disruption caused by the Serbian Revolution causes the Austria-Hungary to collapse and break into the several nations of Austria, Hungary, Romania,and the Czechoslovak Republic. After the collapse of the Austria-Hungary Empire, the assailants that assisted the Serbian Revolution storm Belgrade and establish the Socialist Republic of Serbia.

- Polish Independence - After the establishment of a Soviet regime in Serbia, Germany begins to lessen relations with the Soviet Union and become increasingly hostile towards them. Realizing the need for a buffer state between the Soviet Union and Germany, the Soviet Union grants independence to a new Polish state to provide just that as it seems that Germany is looking to make new allies out of Russian territory after the collapse of Germany's biggest ally, the Austria-Hungarian Empire. The Soviet Polish Republic is established on March 31st, 1923 and provides a sufficient enough buffer state for the Soviet Union against the German Empire to ease their worries.

- The Great Depression and World War One - As a result of debt inflation and productivity shock, the stock market crashes in 1929 and takes a severe toll on the international economy. Still facing economic woes from the Great European War, the German Empire collapses due to the crash. The First German Republic, succeeds it in 1930. As part of the collapse the German Republic cedes a portion of land and forms a new satellite state, the Western Polish Republic, to rival the one formed by the Soviet Union in the last decade. Amid the global financial turmoil, a brilliant mind in Great Britain begins to make a swift rise to power in the nation. Embarrassed over the territorial losses suffered by Great Britain in the Great European War, he promises to restore Britain to it's former glory and gains a great amount of popularity among the people.


I'm really stuck here, I'm not sure how to start a logical World War with a guy from Britain who is embarrassed by losing a war. Then I need to find a way to get rid of the Ottoman Empire, though I suppose an economic collapse could provide that. Then there's Africa, Asia and South America I still need to get to. *sigh*
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Postby Kryskov » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:16 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
And to think this is what I have to go through in the Forge of Empires RP :lol2:

(But for real, welcome to my world)

Hannover, you are totally being rude and everyone is sick of it.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:21 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Bujahla wrote:
Dude, you need to calm down.

We are talking about what we can do to fix it. We gave you solutions, but it just doesn't seem for that one thing to work out. If you don't want to cover the Iranians and IS and that shit, then we don't cover it since we don't have to. It's not that big of a deal.


And to think this is what I have to go through in the Forge of Empires RP :lol2:

(But for real, welcome to my world)


How about you don't make comments, here or anywhere else, that are aimed to directly antagonize someone else?

It'd solve a lot of problems you start over in Forge of Empires, well I mean since you wanted to bring that up.
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Postby Seljuq Kyiv » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:23 pm

The New Greek Republic wrote:
Revamped the Kentucky compromise, and adjusted the Polish Independence as well.

- The Kentucky Compromise - At a meeting held in Lexington, Kentucky in 1860, the federal government and state governments make an agreement termed the "Kentucky Compromise" that grants the state's greater autonomy and more rights. Later in the meeting, the south agrees to abolish slavery as long as the federal government assisted in the development and industrialization of the southern states. It was also agreed upon that as westward expansion took place, new states admitted would be free to choose if slavery was allowed or not without any bias caused by either the South or the North. The compromise deflates the tensions brewing between the Northern and Southern states almost immediately.

- The Second Mexican-American War - After nationalists seize power in Mexico in 1899 , they begin to align themselves with strong European nations in order to ascertain resources so that they could launch an invasion to gain control over former Mexican territories that the U.S had taken away from them. After attaining new military equipment, the Mexican Federal Republic invaded Texas and rapidly began to take various swaths of land. Before too long, the Mexican army had gained control of the Texan territory and had repelled an unmotivated American military from retaking the state. The nationalists in Mexico didn't stop there but continue to invade the Arizonian, Californian, Nevadan, and New Mexican territories of the United States. The Mexican Army was successful in all campaigns besides the attempts to take California and Nevada. After several failed attempts to retake the land, the United States was forced to make a peace treaty that handed over Nevada and California to Mexico.

- The American Civil War and the Great European War - In 1905, the United States began to face severe internal unrest from states due to the federal government's failure to secure American interests following the Second Mexican-American war, as the tensions between states grew higher and higher in America, Europe was becoming more unstable by the minute after the Russian Revolution of 1905 takes place and begins to spread revolutionary ideas across the continent. In order to secure it's stability at home, the German Empire invades Russia to restore order. Serbia, an ally of Russia, declares war on the German Empire. Austria-Hungary then declares war on Serbia for antagonizing an ally of the state.

As the Russian Empire begins to fall, a revolutionary named Vladimir Lenin begins to unite the revolutionaries of the 1905 Revolution under one banner to ascertain a new republic. With the stability in Eastern Europe dissipating, Western Europe enters the war to try and end the violence. After Theodore Roosevelt announces his intentions to become involved in the war, the states of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New York secede from the United States and form the Federal Republic of America. Soon after, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin all secede and join the new nation. This secessionist movement ignites the American Civil War and prevents the United States from joining the war in Europe.

In late 1907, the Russian Empire completely dissolves as Vladimir Lenin leads a group of militants into the Tsar's palace, effectively overthrowing him and establishing the new republic of The Soviet-Socialist Republic of Russia, outlying states of the Russia heartland are granted independence by the Tsar in his final act as leader of Russia. Lenin assumes leadership of the new nation and employs Leon Trotsky to organize invasions of former Russian territories while he negotiates a peace settlement with Germany.

In North America, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona begin a revolution to try and break away from the Mexican Federal Republic. The United States agrees to come to their aide, despite being locked in a civil war. The Federal Republic of America gains control of Missouri in the bloodiest battle of the war; the Battle of Kansas City.

At the beginning of 1908, Russia makes a peace deal with Germany that includes German assistance in retaking the former Imperial claims of the Russian Empire. Russia soon takes back the Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania forming the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Without, Russian backing, Serbia is annexed by Austria-Hungary two months later.

In confidential meetings, France and Great Britain persuade Italy to attack Austria-Hungary while the former two launch a major ground assault on Germany. The campaigns ultimately fail and in early 1909, the Entente powers seek for an armistice. A peace treaty is officially signed later that year, forcing France and Great Britain to give up it's territorial claims outside of Europe.

In North America, the United States succeeds in assisting the revolution against Mexico and annexes their former territories of New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas. Meanwhile, the Federal Republic of America has lost control of Missouri but ascertained control of Nebraska, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. The United States sees that they have no chance at winning the war and recognizes the Federal Republic of America in 1911, after a bloody six year war.

- Serbian Revolution of 1921 - After 10 years of harsh treatment from the Austria-Hungarians, native Serbians take arms against the government in attempt to reform an independent state. Rebels reach out to the Soviet Union for assistance. The Soviet Union, not wanting to disrupt the peace between Germany and the Union, reluctantly decline at first. The Serbian Revolution appears to be on the verge of defeat when unidentified assailants arrive and assist the Revolution.

The assailants along with Serbian revolutionaries launch separate assaults on Budapest and Vienna, forcing Austria-Hungary to drop it's claims in Serbia. The power disruption caused by the Serbian Revolution causes the Austria-Hungary to collapse and break into the several nations of Austria, Hungary, Romania,and the Czechoslovak Republic. After the collapse of the Austria-Hungary Empire, the assailants that assisted the Serbian Revolution storm Belgrade and establish the Socialist Republic of Serbia.

- Polish Independence - Realizing the need for a buffer state between the Soviet Union and Germany, the Soviet Union grants independence to a new Polish state to provide just that as it seems that Germany is looking to make new allies out of Russian territory after the collapse of Germany's biggest ally, the Austria-Hungarian Empire. The Soviet Polish Republic is established on March 31st, 1923 and provides a sufficient enough buffer state for the Soviet Union against the German Empire to ease their worries.

- The Great Depression - As a result of debt inflation and productivity shock, the stock market crashes in 1929 and takes a severe toll on the international economy. Still facing economic woes from the Great European War, the German Empire collapses due to the crash and the First German Republic succeeds it in 1930, as part of the collapse the German Republic cedes a portion of land and forms a new satellite state, the Western Polish Republic, to rival the satellite state formed by the Soviet Union in the last decade. Amid the global financial turmoil, a brilliant mind in Great Britain begins to make a swift rise to power in the nation. Embarrassed over the territorial losses suffered by Great Britain in the Great European War, he promises to restore Britain to it's former glory and gains a great amount of popularity among the people.


I'm really stuck here, I'm not sure how to start a logical World War with a guy from Britain who is embarrassed by losing a war. Then I need to find a way to get rid of the Ottoman Empire, though I suppose an economic collapse could provide that. Then there's Africa, Asia and South America I still need to get to. *sigh*


After extensive negotiations, the Franco-Russian alliance was drafted August 17, 1892. It became final on January 4, 1894. The alliance was to remain in place as long as the Triple Alliance existed. The secret treaty between France and Russia stipulated that if one of the countries of the Triple Alliance (Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy) attacked France or Russia, its ally would attack the aggressor in question, and that if a Triple Alliance country mobilized its army, France and Russia would mobilize. France would engage 1.300.000 troops and Russia 700.000 - 800.000.[3]


The German Reich can't invade Russia without French reprisal. The only Polish territory they had was Posen; the rest of Prussian modern-day Poland was German and under the control of the Junker elite.

On another note, France and Britain couldn't have been bullied out of their colonies without a direct assault on their home ground -- more importantly Britain, who has the North Sea and the Royal Navy between them and the German Empire.

I imagine a Socialist uprising would have occurred to have created the German Republic, like the one in 1919. This would have forced British intervention, so there's your casus belli.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Skaldia wrote:
Photana wrote:
Well, you should do something with it. I'd hate to see such a well thought-out idea just die.


I would welcome ideas or input. I believe the best way to start is creating a factbook topic. Would that be feasible do you think?

I like the concept!

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:27 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Skaldia wrote:
I would welcome ideas or input. I believe the best way to start is creating a factbook topic. Would that be feasible do you think?

I like the concept!


Me too! I am interested in joining this RP :)
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:37 pm

I have a stupid idea. You guys know that if someone built a time machine, they would always try to kill Hitler. What if Hitler gets adept at killing time travellers and sometime later the earth is getting attacked by extra terrestrials (humans, but not from earth because fuck the stereotypical alien) and the only man who can save our planet is...HITLER with 341254346 years worth of practice in every martial arts because time travellers.


Now how do I explain this without looking like a lunatic?
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:39 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:I have a stupid idea. You guys know that if someone built a time machine, they would always try to kill Hitler. What if Hitler gets adept at killing time travellers and sometime later the earth is getting attacked by extra terrestrials (humans, but not from earth because fuck the stereotypical alien) and the only man who can save our planet is...HITLER with 341254346 years worth of practice in every martial arts because time travellers.


Now how do I explain this without looking like a lunatic?


I don't believe you do.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:41 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:I have a stupid idea. You guys know that if someone built a time machine, they would always try to kill Hitler. What if Hitler gets adept at killing time travellers and sometime later the earth is getting attacked by extra terrestrials (humans, but not from earth because fuck the stereotypical alien) and the only man who can save our planet is...HITLER with 341254346 years worth of practice in every martial arts because time travellers.


Now how do I explain this without looking like a lunatic?


Long time no see, Emilio!

How is everything? :hug:
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:51 pm

The Grand Republic of Hannover wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:I have a stupid idea. You guys know that if someone built a time machine, they would always try to kill Hitler. What if Hitler gets adept at killing time travellers and sometime later the earth is getting attacked by extra terrestrials (humans, but not from earth because fuck the stereotypical alien) and the only man who can save our planet is...HITLER with 341254346 years worth of practice in every martial arts because time travellers.


Now how do I explain this without looking like a lunatic?


Long time no see, Emilio!

How is everything? :hug:

Fine...
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:53 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:I have a stupid idea. You guys know that if someone built a time machine, they would always try to kill Hitler. What if Hitler gets adept at killing time travellers and sometime later the earth is getting attacked by extra terrestrials (humans, but not from earth because fuck the stereotypical alien) and the only man who can save our planet is...HITLER with 341254346 years worth of practice in every martial arts because time travellers.


Now how do I explain this without looking like a lunatic?


I don't believe you do.

Why? Because Hitler saves the world? HOW IS THAT IMPOSSIBLE?
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:55 pm

Emilio Aguinaldo wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
I don't believe you do.

Why? Because Hitler saves the world? HOW IS THAT IMPOSSIBLE?
me right now:
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I'd say there is also the issue of time travelers but you know I guess that too.

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Postby The Grand Republic of Hannover » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:08 pm

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And to think this is what I have to go through in the Forge of Empires RP :lol2:

(But for real, welcome to my world)

Hannover, you are totally being rude and everyone is sick of it.


I apologize for my disrespectful post.
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Postby The New Greek Republic » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:36 pm

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
The German Reich can't invade Russia without French reprisal.


Rebuffed the history to ensure that French reprisal wasn't a necessity.

Seljuq Kyiv wrote: The only Polish territory they had was Posen; the rest of Prussian modern-day Poland was German and under the control of the Junker elite.


And they made a Polish republic of it, my history in this time is bit lacking so to speak, but if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong), weren't most Poles vying for an independent Polish state? If the Soviet Union ceded some territory to create just that, then I'm certain enough that ethnic Poles would flock to the new country and further it's legality as a sovereign state.

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:On another note, France and Britain couldn't have been bullied out of their colonies without a direct assault on their home ground -- more importantly Britain, who has the North Sea and the Royal Navy between them and the German Empire.


Again, rebuffed history to have a somewhat logical stamp on it.

Seljuq Kyiv wrote:I imagine a Socialist uprising would have occurred to have created the German Republic, like the one in 1919. This would have forced British intervention, so there's your casus belli.


Eh. I was thinking it'd been more or less an assumption of power rather than an uprising. But I'd suppose that if a socialist uprising took place, then they'd become allies of the Soviet Union and the need for the Polish buffers would become unnecessary and would be combined into one Polish state, that's when Britain invades and then the British and Soviet's are fighting in Germany. Britain could gain assistance from France, who in turn is embarrassed by the territorial losses but has moved on, and viola, the deep pit of despair known as World War One is staged. That sounds fair enough, right?
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Postby Alleniana » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:53 am

Seeing some new ideas; I like. Not any that are formed enough (IMO) for me to express a reservation, but almost all of the ideas (except the modern one/s, because you know me :P ) I'm interested in.

Also, please try to keep it civil; saw a few issues there.

And, AMAAQ; Liec, you want to OP it, perhaps? I can just sit around and explain the lore, because rambling comes easy to me :P and you can do the administration, perhaps?

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