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[Caltarania]

I was thinking Fascist.

And I still wouldn't get to RP me my socialist America. I just wanna cause this http://regicollis.deviantart.com/art/Un ... -479693947

I'd rather see that than fascist America. America has supported the equivalent of fascists in the past, but a socialist America is interesting because it's anti-almost everything that OTL America has stood for.

It could be FSA vs USCRA. Though 'Fascist' is rarely used in a nation name.

Perhaps the Confederate Empire of America? Or the CEA for short?

[Aldelxane]

I'd rather see that than fascist America. America has supported the equivalent of fascists in the past, but a socialist America is interesting because it's anti-almost everything that OTL America has stood for.

It could be FSA vs USCRA. Though 'Fascist' is rarely used in a nation name.

Perhaps the Confederate Empire of America? Or the CEA for short?

Yes. CEA v USCRA. I'm guessing the CEA would have the equivalent of the Confederacy, as well as the great plains realistically, but that'd probably be underpowered in comparison to the USCRA which would likely hold the industrialized regions.

[Caltarania]

It could be FSA vs USCRA. Though 'Fascist' is rarely used in a nation name.

Perhaps the Confederate Empire of America? Or the CEA for short?

Yes. CEA v USCRA. I'm guessing the CEA would have the equivalent of the Confederacy, as well as the great plains realistically, but that'd probably be underpowered in comparison to the USCRA which would likely hold the industrialized regions.

According to that map, the CEA (I assume, anyway) controls Mehico, so, they got them some cheap labour which if utilized could match up to the North's.

[Aldelxane]

Yes. CEA v USCRA. I'm guessing the CEA would have the equivalent of the Confederacy, as well as the great plains realistically, but that'd probably be underpowered in comparison to the USCRA which would likely hold the industrialized regions.

According to that map, the CEA (I assume, anyway) controls Mehico, so, they got them some cheap labour which if utilized could match up to the North's.

But they'd face constant rebellions, as the Mexicans wouldn't be likely to support the Caucasian, Protestant, English-speaking master race I'd imagine the CEA would be championing.
Edit: Although the CEA's likely population advantage from the territories that it holds might even it out a bit.

[Caltarania]

According to that map, the CEA (I assume, anyway) controls Mehico, so, they got them some cheap labour which if utilized could match up to the North's.

But they'd face constant rebellions, as the Mexicans wouldn't be likely to support the Caucasian, Protestant, English-speaking master race I'd imagine the CEA would be championing.
Edit: Although the CEA's likely population advantage from the territories that it holds might even it out a bit.

The CEA could be doing in Mexico what the Nazis did in France. Play nice in order to gain public confidence while they slowly gain control and public opinion.

[Aldelxane]

But they'd face constant rebellions, as the Mexicans wouldn't be likely to support the Caucasian, Protestant, English-speaking master race I'd imagine the CEA would be championing.
Edit: Although the CEA's likely population advantage from the territories that it holds might even it out a bit.

The CEA could be doing in Mexico what the Nazis did in France. Play nice in order to gain public confidence while they slowly gain control and public opinion.

CEA Mexico would be more similar to Nazi Poland, as the Mexicans would trigger CEA fascist racism.

[Corenea]

I would rather support the United States of America over whatever socialist/fascist wet dream of America we're using, just my two cents.

[Aldelxane]

I would rather support the United States of America over whatever socialist/fascist wet dream of America we're using, just my two cents.

The idea was less what we would support ideologically and more to have America be different I'm guessing.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I would rather support the United States of America over whatever socialist/fascist wet dream of America we're using, just my two cents.

This, completely agree.

[Caltarania]

I would rather support the United States of America over whatever socialist/fascist wet dream of America we're using, just my two cents.

I'd prefer America to be a British Dominion, as it should be.

But this is about a possible RP, not about real life preferences.

[Corenea]

If we are to go with the thing where America underwent communist or fascist revolutions, then I'm claiming Canada as the free zone of North America

[Caltarania]

If we are to go with the thing where America underwent communist or fascist revolutions, then I'm claiming Canada as the free zone of North America

Well, I'd probably go with your Lord and Master Sir Britannia the Magnificent.

But seriously, you'd just be like my bud. I don't plan on being a particularly demanding father/mother.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'd go with Belgium but it sucks because zero colonial holdings and will easily fall to the Germans or French in the next war between them, so.

Naples/Sicily could be fun, but I'm not sure. Without Rome, they're kinda meh.

I don't quite know, honestly. Not a fan of anything in particular on the map.

[Caltarania]

I'd go with Belgium but it sucks because zero colonial holdings and will easily fall to the Germans or French in the next war between them, so.

Naples/Sicily could be fun, but I'm not sure. Without Rome, they're kinda meh.

I don't quite know, honestly. Not a fan of anything in particular on the map.

Not necessarily. Y'know that the British had a defensive pact with the Belgies IOTL, right? It may have happened ITTL, too?

[The New Lowlands]

I would rather support the United States of America over whatever socialist/fascist wet dream of America we're using, just my two cents.

I'd prefer America to be a British Dominion, as it should be.

But this is about a possible RP, not about real life preferences.

dutch republic of murrica y/y/y

[Corenea]

If we are to go with the thing where America underwent communist or fascist revolutions, then I'm claiming Canada as the free zone of North America

Well, I'd probably go with your Lord and Master Sir Britannia the Magnificent.

But seriously, you'd just be like my bud. I don't plan on being a particularly demanding father/mother.

Of course that's if the RP didn't go with another absurd scenario where bunch of communists risen up and took over GB by force

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'd go with Belgium but it sucks because zero colonial holdings and will easily fall to the Germans or French in the next war between them, so.

Naples/Sicily could be fun, but I'm not sure. Without Rome, they're kinda meh.

I don't quite know, honestly. Not a fan of anything in particular on the map.

Not necessarily. Y'know that the British had a defensive pact with the Belgies IOTL, right? It may have happened ITTL, too?

Still, Belgium is just Belgium and has nothing that makes it globally relevant, I'd be bored within a day and would spend most of my time RPing resistance until the super nerfed British could liberate me from the French or Germans.

[Caltarania]

I'd prefer America to be a British Dominion, as it should be.

But this is about a possible RP, not about real life preferences.

dutch republic of murrica y/y/y

lul

Probably one of the only independent America I'd ever be in favour of

Well, I'd probably go with your Lord and Master Sir Britannia the Magnificent.

But seriously, you'd just be like my bud. I don't plan on being a particularly demanding father/mother.

Of course that's if the RP didn't go with another absurd scenario where bunch of communists risen up and took over GB by force

Yes, assuming that.

But I mean, for all we know, the PoD could be back in the revolution. The constitution could have been altered slightly whereby the average citizens have less rights and a stronger upper class emerges. This would set the possibility for a communist rebellion. And where there is communists, there are fascists/nationalists.

Not necessarily. Y'know that the British had a defensive pact with the Belgies IOTL, right? It may have happened ITTL, too?

Still, Belgium is just Belgium and has nothing that makes it globally relevant, I'd be bored within a day and would spend most of my time RPing resistance until the super nerfed British could liberate me from the French or Germans.

-shrug-

You could be one of the (assumable) British dominions?

[Aldelxane]

Not necessarily. Y'know that the British had a defensive pact with the Belgies IOTL, right? It may have happened ITTL, too?

Still, Belgium is just Belgium and has nothing that makes it globally relevant, I'd be bored within a day and would spend most of my time RPing resistance until the super nerfed British could liberate me from the French or Germans.

The French aren't doing so well, if you haven't noticed.

[The New Lowlands]

Wait, so the major PoD here is America doesn't go all liberal democracy?

Wouldn't that have major implications for the French Revolution, or is it a very recent change (besides letting Germany win WW1?)

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

-shrug-

You could be one of the (assumable) British dominions?

I answer to no one by myself, so you would not exactly enjoy my foreign policy of "god fuck yourself I'll do what I want".

Still, Belgium is just Belgium and has nothing that makes it globally relevant, I'd be bored within a day and would spend most of my time RPing resistance until the super nerfed British could liberate me from the French or Germans.

The French aren't doing so well, if you haven't noticed.

And the Belgians could still fall to them, says a lot about how relevant Belgium is.

[The New Lowlands]

Assuming that the division of America isn't recent, the territory in dark blue could be a really badly negotiated Mexican reconquista.

[Caltarania]

Wait, so the major PoD here is America doesn't go all liberal democracy?

Wouldn't that have major implications for the French Revolution, or is it a very recent change (besides letting Germany win WW1?)

No, we don't know yet.

I'm merely making assumptions based on the map.

-shrug-

You could be one of the (assumable) British dominions?

I answer to no one by myself, so you would not exactly enjoy my foreign policy of "god fuck yourself I'll do what I want".

If that is still loyalty then -shrug-.

Just be India and sell us shit, we're fine with leaving the Raj be... so long as it remains loyal.

[Aldelxane]

I think we should all wait for an explanation of the map...
It's hard to figure out what it all means without the official interpretation.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

If that is still loyalty then -shrug-.

Just be India and sell us shit, we're fine with leaving the Raj be... so long as it remains loyal.

I don't RP things where I have to be loyal, I have to have the total ability to do whatever I please, even if I never will do things. Hence why any form of a dominion is out.

I think I might do Sicily, it seems like the one I'd like the most. That or the Netherlands, but they are kinda nerfed so I doubt they could be very relevant.