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Islamic Republic e Jariri
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:24 am

Harbertia wrote:So, as an opinion question, who seems to be winning the Mayoral debates thus far?


Hopefully not the Unitarians

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Postby Videssos » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:27 am

I think everyone else in this RP is in a different world, since a lot of the conversation doesn't make much sense.
Also, I still dunno what my character should be doing.
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Postby Harbertia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:30 am

Videssos wrote:I think everyone else in this RP is in a different world, since a lot of the conversation doesn't make much sense.
Also, I still dunno what my character should be doing.


I'd like to know what doesn't make sense :)
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Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Harbertia wrote:So, as an opinion question, who seems to be winning the Mayoral debates thus far?


Hopefully not the Unitarians


Here is the debate as it is thus far:

Channel 2 was busy with the set, preparation had been made by both parties to hold a televised debate that would air on the local news network. Broadcast would be delayed, due to current crimes though such a delay was of little concern. The debate would be released, that is what mattered.

On stage two podiums stood, the right bearing the Torch of the Whig party while the left bore the emblem of Unity. Off stage, though still in camera shot, was a desk upon which sat a mediator. Who held a stack of issues to be debated. Behind him sat some members of both the Whig, Unity, and independents who had come to watch the debate live.

Both candidates were motioned to take their places at the podiums. After a count of three the show began.

"Good evening Cold Harbor, tonight we have a special presentation for you. A debate filmed live from Channel 2 between Mayoral candidates Bruce Jordon of the Whig, and Alex Walker of Unity. I'd like to say, on behalf of Channel 2 that we are honored to have both of you in our presence.

Mediating the debate is Will Wronger, former commentator, and investigator for-" the host paused a bit to hear his ear piece," whom we have the utmost respect.

Gentlemen, befor-" pause again, "e I hand the matter over to the mediator, I'd like to take time to recognize those who have made this possible, Channel 2 extends it's thanks to Lee Enterprises, the Maxwell Foundation, and the New Political League. Wronger, you now have the mic."

The man taps a bit to, he seems a bit old, perhaps rusty. "Your introduction has been most lengthy, as our host has stated we welcome you to these halls for structured debate." Wronger picks up some glasses, then sets them down again, "I understand you both had a quite an experience during during the recent attack on our town center, Alex Walker,would you consider this attack a sign that our current law enforcement is inadiquite to handle the growing crime rate?"

Alex moves his podium's mic closer, "Well Mr.Wonger their can be no secret that in the past year our city has seen a level a crime like none it has witnessed before. One need only look outside their window to see the world we live in, a world of desperate people doing desperate deeds. Desperation often leads to resentment, and resentment leads to hate. The police force of our city has been run thin, gangs upon the docks, bank robberies, smuggling operations, all contributed to the distraction that allowed a lone pyrokinetic to devastate not only the heart of our town, but the vary center of our security force. We have only been fortunate that the commissioner was not among those to loose their lives in the incident. We need more officers, but most importantly we need a more skilled force. A special unit of law enforcement geared to apprehend, and contain such criminals as the Tidebringer, and the as of yet unidentified terrorist who laid waste to the heart of" Wronger raises his hand as Alex quickly finishes his sentence, "of our city."

Mr. Wronger puts on his glasses, "Alright, I'm going to stop you here Mr. Walker, you may not have noticed the time box to your right though I suggest keeping it in mind. Mr. Jordon, do you agree with Mr. Walker on weither or not our police force is inadiquite?"

"While I do believe that our police force is inadiquite, I support the descision of free lawmen. In the case of some madman with superpower, we can get help from vigilantes such as Night-Owl. They sign in, help the police, and pay for the damage they'e done. For example, Tidebringer is wrecking the harbor and instead of losing policemen to incapitate her, we'll send in a super or a fancy toy vigilante like Savior with support from the police to take Tidebringer down. Saviro takes down Tidebringer, do a service to pay for the damage like a destroyed store, and she also pays or do a service for lisencing fee. This will bolster the police force and bring in the best of volunteerism. Plus, with lisencing fees, this will add money to Cold Harbor, helping the economy," Bruce Jordan said

The host whispers to one of his associates asking who this Savior is, who responds with a reference to past events.

Mr. Wronger looked at some of his notes before turning to Walker, "Walker."

Walker nods, "Essentially what my opponent is suggesting is that we turn to other desperate people to fight desperate people. Vigilante's are illegal for a reason, they put themselves in needless risks. Vigilantes see the crime around them, and want to do something about it, but instead of referring to civil means they take justice into their own hands. Often in the form of revenge seeking, which leads to needless death, and destruction. Though who can blame them for trying in light of the condition of our police forces. Would you truely"

Wronger interrupts, "Avoid asking questions to your opponent."

Walker nods, "Would it truly be best for these people? To allow violence to become the only solution?" Wronger motions towards the timer. "Is it the peoples interest or the interest of the few?"

Time is up, Mr. Wronger looks over toward Jordon, "Do you have anything to say in response Mr. Walker's retort?"

"Yes." Mr. Jordan replied. "So you want civil matters to handle dangerous people? So if the Clown escape from prison and did another rampage, you think a strongly worded letter from civilians will distract him until our inadequate policemen arrive on scene? Of course not. There will be a super nearby that will deliver a blow that will stop thugs on their tracks. Report from Commissioner Ron Baker stated that his team was ambushed by landmines and the Clown's henchmen when they're truing to get him. Bakers stated that more of civilians and policemen may die if it weren't for a vigilante who knocked out two thugs operating a machine gun. Now you want our inadequate police force to handle every crime commited instead of adding volunteers that can respond to such crime in minutes, perhaps seconds?"
"Walker?" Mr. Wronger turned to Mr. Walker, who did not seem too happy.

"Mr. Jordon," Walker paused, satisfied that Wronger was not going to stop him, he continued, "I have already stated that we need more men, anyone can set out with the goal of becoming an officer of the law. When I states civil matters, I meant civil servants, the police. It might not seem like it now, but given the training, and manpower our lawmen can be capable of handling such criminals. How else would the *BEEP* manage to have maintained *BEEP*," Walker paused as he was informed that he couldn't mention 'it', along with an apology for the 2nd beep. Walker nodded, "we as humans are resilient. Should my proposal for a special unit of law enforcement pass, I assure you that all attributes of it's members will be made of use. Who is to say that a metahuman can not be a member of legitimate law enforcement?"

Wronger turned to Jordon, signalling his turn to speak.

"So you got a special task force of metahumans, what if they're used against the people? That is my utmost major concern. Why stop at a task force of metahumans when you can make an army of them to control the populous? Yes our police force needs funding and I'm all for that but I'm also for quick reaction volunteers to take on some metahuman pyschopath." Bruce Jordan continued

"I see, so you'd rather have us trust individuals, with individual concerns, rather then the elective government of the state? Would you have an individual, who simply passed some test have the liberty to use their powers on the people? A license means nothing with out training, if this taskforce does include metahumans they would have training, they would also have a more vested interest in keeping a clean profile. They would work for the state, for the people. If they do not preform honorably their employment would be ended. A license on the other end, would not have this vested interest as the former vigilante is likely to continue to work even if the licensing expires for the individual did not need it before, thus feels they do not need it again. Your solution does nothing to end the risk these people take, and only encourages others to take up their way of life."

"My proposed plan is to have free vigilantes to assist the police force as a sort of quick reaction members for each neigborhood. Just like a civilian with his rifle, those vigilantes will try and prevent the situation or make it less severe. Now if there's a law granting civilians with gun rights, why not let vigilantes do justice if the police is distant?"

"Simple, death. Death is not always justice, innocent people, both perceived as guilty, and near to the scene are harmed. As a citizen it's not your place to deliver judgment. Seek justice, but to see to it on you own, out side of the law, is wrong. I have no quirl with a person defending their person, but to end a life, out of vengeance is not excusable. Their are courts, their are proceedings, to by pass these fundamental parts of law is to revert to a state in which one mans law becomes everybody's law because he can enforce it, better then you can enforce your image of justice. Surely you can agree, that only as a state, can the people truly deliver justice impartially."

"So self-defense or defending others does not apply to people killing a serial killer to stop him from killing other people?"

Walker was about to speak however, Wronger put an end to the conversation. "I believe we have touched the subject thoroughly, now, Mr. Walker," Wronger checked his notes "econ, sups, crime, ... econ" "Mr. Walker, it is rather obvious that you and your opponent differ in the economic fields. Recently concern has arose over the sudden lax of regulation in the wake of the fall, as well as the general rise of Unions here with in the state, how do you plan to not only improve the economy while also handling the unrest?"

"All the situations you have mentioned are of a viable concern, as well as connected. With the fall of the order many workers became concerned of a corporate dictatorship. Free to do as they please companies could now push their men further, pay them as they desired, and all with out the concern of the government. In response unions arose-"

"We don't need a history lessen, just answer the question." interrupted Wronger.

"In order to build the cities economy we must first bring unity to it. Their must be a mediator between the mind and muscle lest the living economy parish. I will propose, should I be elected to office, the abolishment of the Union while at the same time creating a state wide Labor Front, an organization comprising of both workers, and managers in industry that would set standards for the working environment that the state would co-cooperatively enforce. The Front, being made up of both mind and muscle would embody the living economy and act as a mediator for disputes that may arise with in industry."

Wronger turn, to Jordon, and reading from a notecard; "Recently concern has arose over the sudden lax of regulation in the wake of the fall, as well as the general rise of Unions here with in the state, Jordon, how do you plan to not only improve the economy while also handling the unrest?"
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Postby Mighty Asgard » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:46 am

Harbertia wrote:So, as an opinion question, who seems to be winning the Mayoral debates thus far?

Walker, definitely.

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Postby Derelldia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:46 am

I think my character has lost all purpose in the IC at the moment. I don't know what to do. Anyone want to have some random thing happen?

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Postby Harbertia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:47 am

Mighty Asgard wrote:
Harbertia wrote:So, as an opinion question, who seems to be winning the Mayoral debates thus far?

Walker, definitely.


I'm inclined to agree :lol:
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:55 am

Derelldia wrote:I think my character has lost all purpose in the IC at the moment. I don't know what to do. Anyone want to have some random thing happen?

Appear more frequently.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:58 am

Thinking of introducing a new character who's hunting immortals, specifically Damien.

Image

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Postby Derelldia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:02 am

Rynagria wrote:
Derelldia wrote:I think my character has lost all purpose in the IC at the moment. I don't know what to do. Anyone want to have some random thing happen?

Appear more frequently.

I appear as frequently as possible, and to be honest a lot happens without me

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Postby Harbertia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:08 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Thinking of introducing a new character who's hunting immortals, specifically Damien.

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Ah Scar, ah, so you really do have Alchemist on the mind.

FMA was the first Manga I actually read from start to finish.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:09 am

Harbertia wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:Thinking of introducing a new character who's hunting immortals, specifically Damien.

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Ah Scar, ah, so you really do have Alchemist on the mind.

FMA was the first Manga I actually read from start to finish.


He's going to make Damien's life a living hell and inflict the 'justice' on him that he claims Death cannot.

FMA Brotherhood is much better than the original series.
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Postby Harbertia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:12 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
Ah Scar, ah, so you really do have Alchemist on the mind.

FMA was the first Manga I actually read from start to finish.


He's going to make Damien's life a living hell and inflict the 'justice' on him that he claims Death cannot.

FMA Brotherhood is much better than the original series.


Have you ever read the Manga :(
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:13 am

Harbertia wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
He's going to make Damien's life a living hell and inflict the 'justice' on him that he claims Death cannot.

FMA Brotherhood is much better than the original series.


Have you ever read the Manga :(

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That aside, I can expect a slight poll increase in the coming days :clap:


No I haven't, I've seen both series though, and thought a character modeled after Scar would make a good adversary for Damien.

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Postby Eaglleia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:14 am

Harbertia wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
He's going to make Damien's life a living hell and inflict the 'justice' on him that he claims Death cannot.

FMA Brotherhood is much better than the original series.


Have you ever read the Manga :(


FMA-Manga is the original thing
FMA-Anime-is a loosely based anime adaption
FMAB-Anime-is the direct anime adaption of the manga

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Postby Harbertia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:23 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Harbertia wrote:
Have you ever read the Manga :(


FMA-Manga is the original thing
FMA-Anime-is a loosely based anime adaption
FMAB-Anime-is the direct anime adaption of the manga


I've only watched an episode of the Anime, didn't much care for FMAB though as the voices threw me off. Thats the buety of Manga, you can voice and animate the action as you please.
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Postby Eaglleia » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:33 am

Did Savior (Zein) actually tell Damien anything? XD

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Postby Personal Freedom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:36 am

Harbertia wrote:
Mighty Asgard wrote:Walker, definitely.


I'm inclined to agree :lol:

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I'll post my response to the economic questions once I have time, give me some time, I'm at school
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Postby Personal Freedom » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:41 am

Corenea wrote:I'll post my response to the economic questions once I have time, give me some time, I'm at school

So am I...
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Postby Rynagria » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:45 am

Eaglleia wrote:Did Savior (Zein) actually tell Damien anything? XD

No, Zein didn't answer him, so he's going off on his own tangent. Whatever he says the "fate" of immortals, I shall ignore........ Jariri I apologize.

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Corenea wrote:I'll post my response to the economic questions once I have time, give me some time, I'm at school

So am I...

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:51 am

Slightly edited my post on the IC, please check it out.

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CHILD ABUSE! DX<
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:17 am

Antogna wrote:CHILD ABUSE! DX<


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Postby Antogna » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:20 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Antogna wrote:CHILD ABUSE! DX<


Biologically a child (10 years old)
Chronologically 510 years old
Mentality: Debatable


And ti had to be my favorite anime character? DX< Dear Lord!
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