Elfen High 2 (OOC 8, Closed, Will it Hurt?)

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Mind you, the universe looks cool.

It's just the plot and leads sound incredibly grating.

I had figured the same, but when I started watching it, I quite enjoyed it.

[Nationstatelandsville]

http://science.time.com/2013/10/22/the-united-states-of-attitude-an-interactive-guide-to-americas-moods/

I belong in New Mexico.

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Nevada.

Mind you, the universe looks cool.

It's just the plot and leads sound incredibly grating.

I had figured the same, but when I started watching it, I quite enjoyed it.

I just don't see the appeal of "gruff bad-asses have emotional breakdowns, heavy gay incest subtext".

There's certainly some mileage in it for three seasons, but ten? There's a point that angst and pain stop being compelling and I stop giving a shit; hence why I've never bothered.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

http://science.time.com/2013/10/22/the-united-states-of-attitude-an-interactive-guide-to-americas-moods/

I belong in New Mexico.

(Image)

Nevada.

I had figured the same, but when I started watching it, I quite enjoyed it.

I just don't see the appeal of "gruff bad-asses have emotional breakdowns, heavy gay incest subtext".

There's certainly some mileage in it for three seasons, but ten? There's a point that angst and pain stop being compelling and I stop giving a shit; hence why I've never bothered.

To be honest, they pretty much stopped being gruff badasses after a while.

Now it's more like "Two brothers who are badasses while good music plays in the background, and Castiel and Crowley make funny".

The gay subtext is there, as always, because of the fangirls who thrive on that shit. I personally ship Dean/Castiel myself.

I stopped caring much about the plot after season 5 - before then, it has a very good plot and Swan Song (season 5 finale) was fantastic. After that, it somewhat loses the trail.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Nevada.


I just don't see the appeal of "gruff bad-asses have emotional breakdowns, heavy gay incest subtext".

There's certainly some mileage in it for three seasons, but ten? There's a point that angst and pain stop being compelling and I stop giving a shit; hence why I've never bothered.

To be honest, they pretty much stopped being gruff badasses after a while.

Now it's more like "Two brothers who are badasses while good music plays in the background, and Castiel and Crowley make funny".

The gay subtext is there, as always, because of the fangirls who thrive on that shit. I personally ship Dean/Castiel myself.

I stopped caring much about the plot after season 5 - before then, it has a very good plot and Swan Song (season 5 finale) was fantastic. After that, it somewhat loses the trail.

The genre of "supernatural detective", as far as I'm concerned, stopped being an interesting juxtaposition of two different genres I enjoy a while back, and started being standard and overplayed. (I am aware of the hypocrisy, but Vernon never did much detecting.)

It seems generic.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

To be honest, they pretty much stopped being gruff badasses after a while.

Now it's more like "Two brothers who are badasses while good music plays in the background, and Castiel and Crowley make funny".

The gay subtext is there, as always, because of the fangirls who thrive on that shit. I personally ship Dean/Castiel myself.

I stopped caring much about the plot after season 5 - before then, it has a very good plot and Swan Song (season 5 finale) was fantastic. After that, it somewhat loses the trail.

The genre of "supernatural detective", as far as I'm concerned, stopped being an interesting juxtaposition of two different genres I enjoy a while back, and started being standard and overplayed. (I am aware of the hypocrisy, but Vernon never did much detecting.)

It seems generic.

Oh, they're not detectives at all. Not really, anyways. It's more like just hunters who kill shit. And then they start getting into some very high up stuff.

But I won't push you on it as much as I do for FMA, because FMA is much superior.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The genre of "supernatural detective", as far as I'm concerned, stopped being an interesting juxtaposition of two different genres I enjoy a while back, and started being standard and overplayed. (I am aware of the hypocrisy, but Vernon never did much detecting.)

It seems generic.

Oh, they're not detectives at all. Not really, anyways. It's more like just hunters who kill shit. And then they start getting into some very high up stuff.

But I won't push you on it as much as I do for FMA, because FMA is much superior.

I don't know, it just seems to me like any other network TV show, but with angels slapped on. (GRanted, their angelic lore - from which ours is drawn - seems quite cool.)

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Oh, they're not detectives at all. Not really, anyways. It's more like just hunters who kill shit. And then they start getting into some very high up stuff.

But I won't push you on it as much as I do for FMA, because FMA is much superior.

I don't know, it just seems to me like any other network TV show, but with angels slapped on. (GRanted, their angelic lore - from which ours is drawn - seems quite cool.)

People tend to be surprised when they find out that angels (and Castiel) only start appearing after season 4.

[Nude East Ireland]

Aw, Castiel.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I don't know, it just seems to me like any other network TV show, but with angels slapped on. (GRanted, their angelic lore - from which ours is drawn - seems quite cool.)

People tend to be surprised when they find out that angels (and Castiel) only start appearing after season 4.

Another thing that makes me hesitant - very little of the show seems to be what people consider the good bits.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

People tend to be surprised when they find out that angels (and Castiel) only start appearing after season 4.

Another thing that makes me hesitant - very little of the show seems to be what people consider the good bits.

Considering how divided the fanbase is, everyone has something they consider good bits, really.

[Tiltjuice]

I'm apparently supposed to be Pennsylvanian.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

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NEI, this is something you should look at.

Also, Nat, watch FMA Brotherhood before Supernatural, if you ever watch either. It's a better show and I think Esty and NEI will back me on that.

And just watch FMA Brotherhood, dammit.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I'm apparently supposed to be Pennsylvanian.

I'm sorry.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=17082322#p17082322

NEI, this is something you should look at.

Also, Nat, watch FMA Brotherhood before Supernatural, if you ever watch either. It's a better show and I think Esty and NEI will back me on that.

And just watch FMA Brotherhood, dammit.

Fuck you!

I have to finish all of Five, all of The Thick of It, rewatch all of Eleven, and oh God I'm starting the Eight audios this weekend, I'm such an idiot.

[Esternial]

To be honest, they pretty much stopped being gruff badasses after a while.

Now it's more like "Two brothers who are badasses while good music plays in the background, and Castiel and Crowley make funny".

The gay subtext is there, as always, because of the fangirls who thrive on that shit. I personally ship Dean/Castiel myself.

I stopped caring much about the plot after season 5 - before then, it has a very good plot and Swan Song (season 5 finale) was fantastic. After that, it somewhat loses the trail.

The genre of "supernatural detective", as far as I'm concerned, stopped being an interesting juxtaposition of two different genres I enjoy a while back, and started being standard and overplayed. (I am aware of the hypocrisy, but Vernon never did much detecting.)

It seems generic.

Well, to be frank, Sherlock has been overplayed as well; ever since it got a second wind a couple years back. Now I'm pretty much fed up with it.

I blame Elementary for this.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The genre of "supernatural detective", as far as I'm concerned, stopped being an interesting juxtaposition of two different genres I enjoy a while back, and started being standard and overplayed. (I am aware of the hypocrisy, but Vernon never did much detecting.)

It seems generic.

Well, to be frank, Sherlock has been overplayed as well; ever since it got a second wind a couple years back. Now I'm pretty much fed up with it.

I blame Elementary for this.

Sherlock itself is an absolutely fucking revolutionary show, and Sherlock Holmes himself is immortal.

It's like saying Shakespeare is done too much. If you do, you are automatically incorrect. This is just a fact.

[Nude East Ireland]

I blame Elementary for this.

Elementary is underrated. I enjoy it.

And just watch FMA Brotherhood, dammit.

Seriously, watch FMA Brotherhood.

[Esternial]

Well, to be frank, Sherlock has been overplayed as well; ever since it got a second wind a couple years back. Now I'm pretty much fed up with it.

I blame Elementary for this.

Sherlock itself is an absolutely fucking revolutionary show, and Sherlock Holmes himself is immortal.

It's like saying Shakespeare is done too much. If you do, you are automatically incorrect. This is just a fact.

Well, I haven't seen anything quite like Supernatural. If you boil something down enough, you'll eventually end up with something mundane and bland no matter what you start off with.

Shakespeare is done too much; that is a fact. Sure, it's a classic and it's timeless, but too much of the same in such a short timespan really bores me. At some point Sherlock Holmes was brought back to TV, and suddenly more of it pops up. It's an utterly dull and predictable phenomenon, and Sherlock Holmes clearly isn't excluded from the money-making bandwagon.

[Esternial]

I blame Elementary for this.

Elementary is underrated. I enjoy it.

Well, I've watched it and enjoyed it at times, but I can't bring myself to watch both Sherlock and Elementary. Hence I watch neither consistently, but merely sporadically, whenever I feel like it.

Even the Mentalist no longer interests, who's a less obvious twist to the "genius detective" persona. It has gotten rather tedious.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I blame Elementary for this.

Elementary is underrated. I enjoy it.

It looks bad. I mean, bad.

There's Supernatural, which induces apathy in me, and then there's Elementary, which befuddles me to no end.

Why is Hudson transgender? Why is Holmes in America? Why is Watson such a shitty actress?

Not to mention the general stench of CBS on it.

Elementary is underrated. I enjoy it.

Well, I've watched it and enjoyed it at times, but I can't bring myself to watch both Sherlock and Elementary. Hence I watch neither consistently, but merely sporadically, whenever I feel like it.

Even the Mentalist no longer interests, who's a less obvious twist to the "genius detective" persona. It has gotten rather tedious.

It was tedious pretty much after episode one.

[Esternial]

Well, I've watched it and enjoyed it at times, but I can't bring myself to watch both Sherlock and Elementary. Hence I watch neither consistently, but merely sporadically, whenever I feel like it.

Even the Mentalist no longer interests, who's a less obvious twist to the "genius detective" persona. It has gotten rather tedious.

It was tedious pretty much after episode one.

Well, to you, perhaps. I found the first season(s) rather enjoyable. It reminds me of Sherlock Holmes, but not too obvious.

Sherlock is okey, but I've already gotten too fed up with detective series after Morse and Frost.

[Nationstatelandsville]

It was tedious pretty much after episode one.

Well, to you, perhaps. I found the first season(s) rather enjoyable. It reminds me of Sherlock Holmes, but not too obvious.

Sherlock is okey, but I've already gotten too fed up with detective series after Morse and Frost.

Sherlock is okay?

I don't know who you think you are, Belgian, but let me tell you that you tread on a dangerous line.

I don't like police procedurals. Neither Sherlock Holmes nor Sherlock are, or are meant to be. (One of my main problems with Elementary is that it seems like they dumped Holmes into a standard American cop show, which he can't work in.)

Sherlock is... I don't know what the fuck it is. There's some political thriller, some Shakespearean tragedy, some of the classic Holmes, and just a touch of a fairy tale. It is anything but common or overdone.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I don't know what the fuck it is. There's some political thriller, some Shakespearean tragedy, some of the classic Holmes, and just a touch of a fairy tale. It is anything but common or overdone.

And you just described FMA Brotherhood perfectly.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I don't know what the fuck it is. There's some political thriller, some Shakespearean tragedy, some of the classic Holmes, and just a touch of a fairy tale. It is anything but common or overdone.

And you just described FMA Brotherhood perfectly.

My ultimate qualm with it comes down to this, and though it seems petty, it's important - the main character.

Sherlock is a stoic. I quite like that.

Edward-or-whatever is an obnoxious brat. Maybe it's supposed to be funny, but I really hate that.

[Esternial]

Well, to you, perhaps. I found the first season(s) rather enjoyable. It reminds me of Sherlock Holmes, but not too obvious.

Sherlock is okey, but I've already gotten too fed up with detective series after Morse and Frost.

Sherlock is okay?

I don't know who you think you are, Belgian, but let me tell you that you tread on a dangerous line.

I don't like police procedurals. Neither Sherlock Holmes nor Sherlock are, or are meant to be. (One of my main problems with Elementary is that it seems like they dumped Holmes into a standard American cop show, which he can't work in.)

Sherlock is... I don't know what the fuck it is. There's some political thriller, some Shakespearean tragedy, some of the classic Holmes, and just a touch of a fairy tale. It is anything but common or overdone.

I recall an episode with some kind of monster wolf and hallucinogenics. That was fun.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

And you just described FMA Brotherhood perfectly.

My ultimate qualm with it comes down to this, and though it seems petty, it's important - the main character.

Sherlock is a stoic. I quite like that.

Edward-or-whatever is an obnoxious brat. Maybe it's supposed to be funny, but I really hate that.

You just saw Edward in merely the first four episodes. He's a young kid (16 or so), yes, but he's also frankly a soldier and a fighter, and he can get extremely dark and stoic.

And let's not even get into the Roy Mustang-ness of Roy Mustang.