History of Man II (OOC, Closed)

[The Orson Empire]

So, I assume we can start colonizing, right?

Orson, how did you get to the Yucatan Peninsula without running into natives beforehand? Hell, how did you get past Florida?

I didn't go through the Florida way.

[Equalium]

Or maybe I just extend to the Sault Saint Marie area.

New Ukraine is gonna become independent sometime later.

[Equalium]

Orson, how did you get to the Yucatan Peninsula without running into natives beforehand? Hell, how did you get past Florida?

I didn't go through the Florida way.

New York doesn't exist here either. Nor Mexico. Spain didn't took Mexico, so it cant be Mexico.

Why does your post have that?

And how did you manage to afford an exploration if you never ended the war against Ukraine?

[The Orson Empire]

I didn't go through the Florida way.

New York doesn't exist here either. Nor Mexico. Spain didn't took Mexico, so it cant be Mexico.

Why does your post have that?

And how did you manage to afford an exploration if you never ended the war against Ukraine?

These are mainly privately funded expeditions, with some government funding.

And I'm only using the name to refer to the area where I am landing. It's easier to do it that way.

And look, in the past Horus said he would let me colonize a little, and that is what I am going to do.

[Equalium]

New York doesn't exist here either. Nor Mexico. Spain didn't took Mexico, so it cant be Mexico.

Why does your post have that?

And how did you manage to afford an exploration if you never ended the war against Ukraine?

These are mainly privately funded expeditions, with some government funding.

And I'm only using the name to refer to the area where I am landing. It's easier to do it that way.

And look, in the past Horus said he would let me colonize a little, and that is what I am going to do.

Oh okay.

I dunno if I might get the green light to go ahead and start New Ukraine in Manitoba and Saskatchewan (and a bit of Ontario). I might just start a small province, slowly stretching down there and Sault Saint Marie. But I wanna start a bit later. Ukraine needs to recover it's finances.

Say, can you show a map where Ukraine had claimed during the war against you? Because you said that I can have some land in Southwestern Russia after the result of the war?

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

I didn't go through the Florida way.

New York doesn't exist here either. Nor Mexico. Spain didn't took Mexico, so it cant be Mexico.

Why does your post have that?

And how did you manage to afford an exploration if you never ended the war against Ukraine?

Well, not to pick sides, but it's hard to refer to territories without their modern names! Many of the native names have been forgotten. However, the Aztecs referred to themselves as the Mexica (pronounced MEH-shee-ka) so I guess any explorers could hear the term and use it for the land.

[Quirina]

New York doesn't exist here either. Nor Mexico. Spain didn't took Mexico, so it cant be Mexico.

Why does your post have that?

And how did you manage to afford an exploration if you never ended the war against Ukraine?

Well, not to pick sides, but it's hard to refer to territories without their modern names! Many of the native names have been forgotten. However, the Aztecs referred to themselves as the Mexica (pronounced MEH-shee-ka) so I guess any explorers could hear the term and use it for the land.

"it's hard to refer to territories without their modern names!"

This is AH. Everything is possible with the rules.

[Galnius]

Orson, how did you get to the Yucatan Peninsula without running into natives beforehand? Hell, how did you get past Florida?

I didn't go through the Florida way.

You went down from New York area......also, I don't know if you've been paying attention to N. America, but I control the Gulf. There is also other countries in the way that rival European in size. My navy, for instance, is DEFINITELY bigger than an exploration party you may have sent. They patrol the WHOLE Gulf of Mexico, which, by the way, is unnamed.

[Reatra]

Actually, Mexica wasn't used often.


Nahuatl was though. They should be called the Nahuatl.

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Actually, Mexica wasn't used often.


Nahuatl was though. They should be called the Nahuatl.

That's the language! Nahua is the ethnic group.

[Reatra]

They called themselves Nahuatl.

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

"The Aztec people were certain ethnic groups of central Mexico, particularly those groups who spoke the Nahuatl language and who dominated large parts of Mesoamerica from the 14th to 16th centuries. The Nahuatl words 'aztecatl' and 'aztecah' mean 'people from Aztlan', a mythological place for the Nahuatl-speaking culture of the time, and later adopted as the word to define the Mexica people. Often the term "Aztec" refers exclusively to the Mexica people of Tenochtitlan (now the location of Mexico City), situated on an island in Lake Texcoco, who referred to themselves as Mexica Tenochca or Cōlhuah Mexica.

Sometimes the term also includes the inhabitants of Tenochtitlan's two principal allied city-states, the Acolhuas of Texcoco and the Tepanecs of Tlacopan, who together with the Mexica formed the Aztec Triple Alliance which controlled what is often known as the "Aztec Empire". In other contexts, Aztec may refer to all the various city states and their peoples, who shared large parts of their ethnic history and cultural traits with the Mexica, Acolhua and Tepanecs, and who often also used the Nahuatl language as a lingua franca. In this meaning it is possible to talk about an Aztec civilization including all the particular cultural patterns common for most of the peoples inhabiting Central Mexico in the late postclassic period.


When used about ethnic groups the term "Aztec" refers to several Nahuatl speaking peoples of central Mexico in the postclassic period of Mesoamerican chronology, especially the ethnic group that had a leading role in establishing the hegemonic empire based at Tenochtitlan, the Mexica. Other ethnic groups associated with the Aztec empire are the Acolhua and Tepanec ethnic groups and some of the ethnic groups that were incorporated into the empire, and the term is also sometimes used about them. In older usage the term was commonly used about modern Nahuatl speaking ethnic groups, as Nahuatl was previously referred to as the "Aztec language". In recent usage these ethnic groups are rather referred to as the Nahua peoples. Linguistically the term "Aztecan" is still used about the branch of the Uto-Aztecan languages (also sometimes called the yuto-nahuan languages) that includes the Nahuatl language and its closest relatives Pochutec and Pipil.

To the Aztecs themselves the word "aztec" was not an endonym for any particular ethnic group. Rather it was an umbrella term used to refer to several ethnic groups, not all of them Nahuatl speaking, that claimed heritage from the mythic place of origin, Aztlan. In the Nahuatl language "aztecatl" means "person from Aztlan". In 1810 Alexander von Humboldt originated the modern usage of "Aztec" as a collective term applied to all the people linked by trade, custom, religion, and language to the Mexica state and the Triple Alliance. In 1843, with the publication of the work of William H. Prescott, it was adopted by most of the world, including 19th century Mexican scholars who saw it as a way to distinguish present-day Mexicans from pre-conquest Mexicans. This usage has been the subject of debate in more recent years, but the term "Aztec" is still more common."


I still love you.

[Reatra]

Ha!

Thats' the same article I based my essay on!

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Ha!

Thats' the same article I based my essay on!

http://vimeo.com/48897403

[Galnius]

Actually, Mexica wasn't used often.


Nahuatl was though. They should be called the Nahuatl.

That would be nice...if I was the Aztec's. However, the way Europeans have butchered names. I have a feeling the name for my people will vary.

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Actually, Mexica wasn't used often.


Nahuatl was though. They should be called the Nahuatl.

That would be nice...if I was the Aztec's. However, the way Europeans have butchered names. I have a feeling the name for my people will vary.

Which tribe are you? (Or based on?)

[Galnius]

That would be nice...if I was the Aztec's. However, the way Europeans have butchered names. I have a feeling the name for my people will vary.

Which tribe are you? (Or based on?)

A completely fictional "tribe" called Raktol. Although we do have parts of the Aztec's land, we also control the Gulf of Mexico. Also, we are as much of a tribe as NYC is a village.

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Which tribe are you? (Or based on?)

A completely fictional "tribe" called Raktol. Although we do have parts of the Aztec's land, we also control the Gulf of Mexico. Also, we are as much of a tribe as NYC is a village.

Where is your capital city?

[Galnius]

A completely fictional "tribe" called Raktol. Although we do have parts of the Aztec's land, we also control the Gulf of Mexico. Also, we are as much of a tribe as NYC is a village.

Where is your capital city?

About on what is known in RL as the Rio Grande.

[Alleniana]

I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I won't be either.
Also, never put socialism and communism together. Socialism is as close to capitalism as it is to communism.
Also, I recommend that when you talk about communism, you talk about communism, and when you talk about stalinism, you talk about stalinism. I thought that Equalium might be talking of one while thinking of the other. I won't correct that anymore.

I am confused about what Equalium is saying too...

That's it. I'm leaving the "most active and most participative RP" in town. I cannot no longer hold too much and must release this to adjust better in my computer work.. Please consider this as a good bye and retcon in all I did as Spain, and leave the places I occupied white and totally unoccupied. May the other players enjoy and I did really had a good time with you guys.

See you around in my future RP, "A Lifetime Of War" that is still in the making due to RL conflicts.

Consider me the most inactive but trying-to-cope-up-to-all player and I can't leave. The challenge I placed myself will be forfeited. I must win in all my fights, both RP and RL. Good luck to me.

Oh... wow

Good luck

Which tribe are you? (Or based on?)

A completely fictional "tribe" called Raktol. Although we do have parts of the Aztec's land, we also control the Gulf of Mexico. Also, we are as much of a tribe as NYC is a village.

NYC is piddly little village. *nod*

[Ultramania (Ancient)]

Where is your capital city?

About on what is known in RL as the Rio Grande.

Henceforth, you shall be known as the... Ragdolls.

[Alleniana]

About on what is known in RL as the Rio Grande.

Henceforth, you shall be known as the... Ragdolls.

whaat?

[Galnius]

Henceforth, you shall be known as the... Ragdolls.

whaat?

Butchering the name "Raktol". It's a common European thing.

[Alleniana]

whaat?

Butchering the name "Raktol". It's a common European thing.

Oh, I see. True.

[Horusland]

Capitalism.


We have a problem. As outlined by someone before, your colony cannot communicate with Ukraine. How do you plan to solve this?

I'll probably extend to northern Saskatchewan and Manitoba or try to see if I can take some more lands to connect to Husdon Bay. I mean there is several rivers leading down to the Gulf, right? Like the great lakes, Saint Lawrence n some other lakes? idk. I'll think of something.

Hudson Bay is full of icebergs during winter. Trade cut off half of the year through there, if I remember well. Another player said that, too.
If you're alright with that, sure, but you can't get any resources when you need them. Only with year-long delays.