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Postby Kavantye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:10 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Land. That's the only reason. Did you think the English or the Spanish had any reason to conquer the Natives? (ASIDE from Gold, which could also relate to the reason for land)

I meant that he'll 'reserve' the land for you. HIS, reason, not yours.

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Postby Horusland » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:12 pm

Kavantye wrote:what date is it ? i think im gonna start asking nationstates to send me notification emails

1505 AD.
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:19 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Equalium wrote:Horus, this is what I was thinking (NOTE, not official, but it's hypothetical. I just wanna see if you approve)

So I know I am near my land limit, however, a hypothetical image of Ukraine in around probably 1535 or 1541, a possible colony in the Americas established by Ukrainians in where real life Ukrainians in Canada live. The land was white, so I had decided it was indeed the area that might be ideal.

http://i.imgur.com/4jJbU2C.png

I was planning maybe the area south in Manitoba and Saskatchewan can become the colonies of New Ukraine, both of them being named "Kateryna and Anatolia". Anatolia is in homage to Anatalya the Great. Kateryna might be a daughter of the third one.

Oui. :)
Land limits are for Europe and Asia. America has other land limits. The land limits for the Old World were to keep space open for new people. And we have five new people in Europe, and another bunch in Russia, because of that rule.
America isn't in that situation yet.

All I need to think is, why settle in Kateryna and Anatolia... maybe because there is an abundance of something there... Who knows.

I'm planning on them being possible be sold, or become independent nations. Maybe Communist Canadians? >D

And your okay with it Horus?

But as I said, later.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:20 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Land. That's the only reason. Did you think the English or the Spanish had any reason to conquer the Natives? (ASIDE from Gold, which could also relate to the reason for land)

I meant that he'll 'reserve' the land for you. HIS, reason, not yours.

Oh, okay. Since this conversation is over, I believe my business is done for now. Neo, AWAY!
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Postby Horusland » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:22 pm

Equalium wrote:All I need to think is, why settle in Kateryna and Anatolia... maybe because there is an abundance of something there... Who knows.

I'm planning on them being possible be sold, or become independent nations. Maybe Communist Canadians? >D

And your okay with it Horus?

Are you referring to actual communism, or USSR-type communism?
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Equalium
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:25 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Equalium wrote:All I need to think is, why settle in Kateryna and Anatolia... maybe because there is an abundance of something there... Who knows.

I'm planning on them being possible be sold, or become independent nations. Maybe Communist Canadians? >D

And your okay with it Horus?

Are you referring to actual communism, or USSR-type communism?

USSR-type. I'm planning on possibly having Ukraine become like the USSR, but the commnuism wont follow Stalin's and will be a Trotsky-type Communist society.

So, Stalin gets trialed, Trotsky rules the USSR.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
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Former Ukraine and Mosuo in History of Man. (FINISHED)
Belkegin/Belgium and Otveta in History of Empires.
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Postby New Anima » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:26 pm

HorusLand wrote:
New Anima wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/UR3Lh9x.jpg

I'm the green. I filled out those three areas because those are the places I think I am. I can work with any of those, though.

Noted.
Are you some sort of tribe? The land you chose is kinda small. :/


My population is 500,000, so I probably occupy more territory than that. Just wasn't sure where to put the exact borders, so I marked the general area I think I am.

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Postby Horusland » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:28 pm

Equalium wrote:
HorusLand wrote:Are you referring to actual communism, or USSR-type communism?

USSR-type. I'm planning on possibly having Ukraine become like the USSR, but the commnuism wont follow Stalin's and will be a Trotsky-type Communist society.

So, Stalin gets trialed, Trotsky rules the USSR.

So, to answer your 'are you alright with it?' question... no. Not at all.
Of course I'll allow it, but as soon as you adopt that horrible 'ideology', I'll break all ties with you ICly.

New Anima wrote:My population is 500,000, so I probably occupy more territory than that. Just wasn't sure where to put the exact borders, so I marked the general area I think I am.

Oh. Great. Now we need the others to do it, and the map will be done. :)
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Postby Graknopia » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:29 pm

Equalium wrote:Horus, this is what I was thinking (NOTE, not official, but it's hypothetical. I just wanna see if you approve)

So I know I am near my land limit, however, a hypothetical image of Ukraine in around probably 1535 or 1541, a possible colony in the Americas established by Ukrainians in where real life Ukrainians in Canada live. The land was white, so I had decided it was indeed the area that might be ideal.

http://i.imgur.com/4jJbU2C.png

I was planning maybe the area south in Manitoba and Saskatchewan can become the colonies of New Ukraine, both of them being named "Kateryna and Anatolia". Anatolia is in homage to Anatalya the Great. Kateryna might be a daughter of the third one.
long term trade though that area isnt really feasible, as all the icebergs through most of the year, if not all
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Equalium
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:31 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Equalium wrote:USSR-type. I'm planning on possibly having Ukraine become like the USSR, but the commnuism wont follow Stalin's and will be a Trotsky-type Communist society.

So, Stalin gets trialed, Trotsky rules the USSR.

So, to answer your 'are you alright with it?' question... no. Not at all.
Of course I'll allow it, but as soon as you adopt that horrible 'ideology', I'll break all ties with you ICly.

That won't be until 1916. You have roughly 500 years until this happens.

And dude, I didn't said Stalinist, so it won't be the messed up Communist society. It will be a pure, true socialist society ruled under a Trostky. Who knows? We might not even be communist, and all in all, we might be truly Socialist.

As I said in your TG, we will invade around the time of 1923 or so idk.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:43 pm

Equalium wrote:
HorusLand wrote:So, to answer your 'are you alright with it?' question... no. Not at all.
Of course I'll allow it, but as soon as you adopt that horrible 'ideology', I'll break all ties with you ICly.

That won't be until 1916. You have roughly 500 years until this happens.

And dude, I didn't said Stalinist, so it won't be the messed up Communist society. It will be a pure, true socialist society ruled under a Trostky. Who knows? We might not even be communist, and all in all, we might be truly Socialist.

As I said in your TG, we will invade around the time of 1923 or so idk.

I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:45 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Equalium wrote:That won't be until 1916. You have roughly 500 years until this happens.

And dude, I didn't said Stalinist, so it won't be the messed up Communist society. It will be a pure, true socialist society ruled under a Trostky. Who knows? We might not even be communist, and all in all, we might be truly Socialist.

As I said in your TG, we will invade around the time of 1923 or so idk.

I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I know. Your France. Apparently.

Iron Curtain.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
Factbook • Embassy • Other Nations

Former Ukraine and Mosuo in History of Man. (FINISHED)
Belkegin/Belgium and Otveta in History of Empires.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:49 pm

Equalium wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I know. Your France. Apparently.

Iron Curtain.

I'm trying to be more like Germany (And so far, that has been accomplished), but yeah. Iron Curtain for all once Communism/Socialism begins to rise!
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Postby Horusland » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:55 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Equalium wrote:That won't be until 1916. You have roughly 500 years until this happens.

And dude, I didn't said Stalinist, so it won't be the messed up Communist society. It will be a pure, true socialist society ruled under a Trostky. Who knows? We might not even be communist, and all in all, we might be truly Socialist.

As I said in your TG, we will invade around the time of 1923 or so idk.

I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I won't be either.
Also, never put socialism and communism together. Socialism is as close to capitalism as it is to communism.
Also, I recommend that when you talk about communism, you talk about communism, and when you talk about stalinism, you talk about stalinism. I thought that Equalium might be talking of one while thinking of the other. I won't correct that anymore.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:57 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I won't be either.
Also, never put socialism and communism together. Socialism is as close to capitalism as it is to communism.
Also, I recommend that when you talk about communism, you talk about communism, and when you talk about stalinism, you talk about stalinism. I thought that Equalium might be talking of one while thinking of the other. I won't correct that anymore.

Meh. It ends in an '-ism', which makes my people afraid of it. We can't kill it with fire, so we'll put up an iron curtain instead :D

That's not the real reason, but, whatever.
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:58 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:I'd break ties with you. My country will be Capitalist, much rather than Socialist/Communist

I won't be either.
Also, never put socialism and communism together. Socialism is as close to capitalism as it is to communism.
Also, I recommend that when you talk about communism, you talk about communism, and when you talk about stalinism, you talk about stalinism. I thought that Equalium might be talking of one while thinking of the other. I won't correct that anymore.

I was talking about 4, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Socialism and Communism but okay.

Anyways lunch is over. Can you please give a confirmation if it's okay I can do the New Ukraine strategy like later?
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
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Postby Horusland » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:08 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Meh. It ends in an '-ism', which makes my people afraid of it. We can't kill it with fire, so we'll put up an iron curtain instead :D

Capitalism. :p

Equalium wrote:Anyways lunch is over. Can you please give a confirmation if it's okay I can do the New Ukraine strategy like later?

We have a problem. As outlined by someone before, your colony cannot communicate with Ukraine. How do you plan to solve this?
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Postby New Anima » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:27 pm

Equalium wrote:
HorusLand wrote:So, to answer your 'are you alright with it?' question... no. Not at all.
Of course I'll allow it, but as soon as you adopt that horrible 'ideology', I'll break all ties with you ICly.

That won't be until 1916. You have roughly 500 years until this happens.

And dude, I didn't said Stalinist, so it won't be the messed up Communist society. It will be a pure, true socialist society ruled under a Trostky. Who knows? We might not even be communist, and all in all, we might be truly Socialist.

As I said in your TG, we will invade around the time of 1923 or so idk.


I'm just going to be the out-of-the-way Switzerland located in northeastern Russia. ._.

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Postby Quirina » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:49 pm

That's it. I'm leaving the "most active and most participative RP" in town. I cannot no longer hold too much and must release this to adjust better in my computer work.. Please consider this as a good bye and retcon in all I did as Spain, and leave the places I occupied white and totally unoccupied. May the other players enjoy and I did really had a good time with you guys.

See you around in my future RP, "A Lifetime Of War" that is still in the making due to RL conflicts.


Consider me the most inactive but trying-to-cope-up-to-all player and I can't leave. The challenge I placed myself will be forfeited. I must win in all my fights, both RP and RL. Good luck to me.
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Postby Neo-Assyrian Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:52 pm

Quirina wrote:That's it. I'm leaving the "most active and most participative RP" in town. I cannot no longer hold too much and must release this to adjust better in my computer work.. Please consider this as a good bye and retcon in all I did as Spain, and leave the places I occupied white and totally unoccupied. May the other players enjoy and I did really had a good time with you guys.

See you around in my future RP, "A Lifetime Of War" that is still in the making due to RL conflicts.

I hoped to see the war between you and I end and actually win a battle through... conflict, much rather than you leaving and myself winning by default. Be that as it may, good bye Quirina. I hope to see you 'round the forums
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:55 pm

Quirina wrote:That's it. I'm leaving the "most active and most participative RP" in town. I cannot no longer hold too much and must release this to adjust better in my computer work.. Please consider this as a good bye and retcon in all I did as Spain, and leave the places I occupied white and totally unoccupied. May the other players enjoy and I did really had a good time with you guys.

See you around in my future RP, "A Lifetime Of War" that is still in the making due to RL conflicts.

Goodbye, Quirina. It was good having you here.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:59 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Kavantye wrote:what date is it ? i think im gonna start asking nationstates to send me notification emails

1505 AD.

So, I assume we can start colonizing, right?

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Postby Galnius » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:19 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
HorusLand wrote:1505 AD.

So, I assume we can start colonizing, right?

Orson, how did you get to the Yucatan Peninsula without running into natives beforehand? Hell, how did you get past Florida?
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Postby Quirina » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:26 pm

Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:
Quirina wrote:That's it. I'm leaving the "most active and most participative RP" in town. I cannot no longer hold too much and must release this to adjust better in my computer work.. Please consider this as a good bye and retcon in all I did as Spain, and leave the places I occupied white and totally unoccupied. May the other players enjoy and I did really had a good time with you guys.

See you around in my future RP, "A Lifetime Of War" that is still in the making due to RL conflicts.
I hoped to see the war between you and I end and actually win a battle through... conflict, much rather than you leaving and myself winning by default. Be that as it may, good bye Quirina. I hope to see you 'round the forums

For the very least, you won a war... by default.

EDIT:I long to return while I meddle with my RL businesses at hand. I'm afraid to leave and afraid to return at the same time. But anyways, I considered leaving a half one, so... Ugh, confused.
I'm not leaving. I'll try my best to be active and enhance my writing with you guys. Leaving is not 'accepting the challenge' I placed to myself. Life = challenges.

I just reacted, unthinking of the possibilities I can still have in participating in the RP beyond RL issues. Oh well, constructing my IC post...
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Postby Equalium » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:24 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Neo-Assyrian Empire wrote:Meh. It ends in an '-ism', which makes my people afraid of it. We can't kill it with fire, so we'll put up an iron curtain instead :D

Capitalism. :p

Equalium wrote:Anyways lunch is over. Can you please give a confirmation if it's okay I can do the New Ukraine strategy like later?

We have a problem. As outlined by someone before, your colony cannot communicate with Ukraine. How do you plan to solve this?

I'll probably extend to northern Saskatchewan and Manitoba or try to see if I can take some more lands to connect to Husdon Bay. I mean there is several rivers leading down to the Gulf, right? Like the great lakes, Saint Lawrence n some other lakes? idk. I'll think of something.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Rome = 21st Century America.

Therefore, New York will be sacked by northern barbarians.
I knew those damn Canucks were up to something. We'll send a Legion to Buffalo immediately.
Ralnis wrote:Hey, don't mock Glove World, it is the underwater version of Disney World.

Alleniana wrote:Nukes are for noobs, diplomacy is where it's at.
Factbook • Embassy • Other Nations

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Belkegin/Belgium and Otveta in History of Empires.
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