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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:04 pm

Segmentia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Indeed. They need to get out.


So I guess the Citadel Defense Fleet needs to gtfo too, right?

No. The Batarians need to get out. They shouldn't be deploying tens of thousands of soldiers onto neutral ground.

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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:05 pm

The council has a right to have military on the citadel as they own the citadel.

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Postby Segmentia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Ariado wrote:The council has a right to have military on the citadel as they own the citadel.


Right, and the Council species just fought a war with each other. I wouldn't feel safe with the species of the fleet having that kind of tension.
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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Ariado wrote:You should talk to your allies then as I would almost prefer the Turians enacting martial law than having so many troops that in the end, are CIS on the Citadel.

im sending 29 Divisions the quarians have a marine division there and our entire fleet is at the citadel door its not martial law im just going to garrison the presidium and the wards to make sure you guys dont get jumpy because i dont care how big your fleet is my troops can take all of you on the ground and thats a fact my people will also be backed by 23 interceptor squadrons..
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Ariado wrote:The council has a right to have military on the citadel as they own the citadel.

The Citadel is neutral ground. However, a few military forces can be an exception, but entire armies? That's ludicrous.

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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:07 pm

Then why should we feel comfortable with having the CIS having such a large military presence? At least the council has an inherent right. Orson, I'm defending your right to have military on the Citadel........

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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:08 pm

Ariado wrote:Then why should we feel comfortable with having the CIS having such a large military presence? At least the council has an inherent right. Orson, I'm defending your right to have military on the Citadel........

:) on my way ;)
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:09 pm

Ariado wrote:Then why should we feel comfortable with having the CIS having such a large military presence? At least the council has an inherent right. Orson, I'm defending your right to have military on the Citadel........

However, sending in entire armies is unnecessary.

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Postby Legital » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:09 pm

Alright. Let's see what we can lay out here since I believe there is some confusion with the CIS/Citadel situation.

The Batarians unloaded ten thousand soldiers.
The Systems Alliance has garrisoned a division (which is 12,000.)

The Geth have a fleet nearby (I believe) along with the Quarians.

If the Turians attempt martial law, then no one is backing down (on the CIS side). The CIS are not trying to invade or anything, it would appear forces are being garrisoned for reasons I don't know (save for the Systems Alliance who only has the division there to garrison with C-Sec and to protect humanity in the case of undue hostilities).

If universally agreed, we can all remove our military forces and leave the defense solely to C-sec


Oblast, 29 divisions is an act of war. Just saying. That is a ridiculous amount of military power. That's more than the CIS have.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:10 pm

Legital wrote:Alright. Let's see what we can lay out here since I believe there is some confusion with the CIS/Citadel situation.

The Batarians unloaded ten thousand soldiers.
The Systems Alliance has garrisoned a division (which is 12,000.)

The Geth have a fleet nearby (I believe) along with the Quarians.

If the Turians attempt martial law, then no one is backing down (on the CIS side). The CIS are not trying to invade or anything, it would appear forces are being garrisoned for reasons I don't know (save for the Systems Alliance who only has the division there to garrison with C-Sec and to protect humanity in the case of undue hostilities).

If universally agreed, we can all remove our military forces and leave the defense solely to C-sec


Oblast, 29 divisions is an act of war. Just saying. That is a ridiculous amount of military power. That's more than the CIS have.

I agree.

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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:12 pm

I would agree to that, anything to spare the Citadel from erupting into a war-zone.

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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:17 pm

Legital wrote:Alright. Let's see what we can lay out here since I believe there is some confusion with the CIS/Citadel situation.

The Batarians unloaded ten thousand soldiers.
The Systems Alliance has garrisoned a division (which is 12,000.)

The Geth have a fleet nearby (I believe) along with the Quarians.

If the Turians attempt martial law, then no one is backing down (on the CIS side). The CIS are not trying to invade or anything, it would appear forces are being garrisoned for reasons I don't know (save for the Systems Alliance who only has the division there to garrison with C-Sec and to protect humanity in the case of undue hostilities).

If universally agreed, we can all remove our military forces and leave the defense solely to C-sec


Oblast, 29 divisions is an act of war. Just saying. That is a ridiculous amount of military power. That's more than the CIS have.

ITS an appropriate action to what is unfolding. i will not let the CIS take over the galaxy.
And im Hastatim turians Not the hierarchy there's a difference. he can beat my fleet but i have everyone on the ground :) exempt Mabie the krogan.. but there to dis organized and they dont have any troops as of now.
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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:19 pm

Oblast, how about you don't send troops and all races get troops off the citadel. Making it a true neutral ground.

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Postby Segmentia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:21 pm

Archangelskl Oblast wrote:ITS an appropriate action to what is unfolding. i will not let the CIS take over the galaxy.
And im Hastatim turians Not the hierarchy there's a difference. he can beat my fleet but i have everyone on the ground :) exempt Mabie the krogan.. but there to dis organized and they dont have any troops as of now.


If you send those troops, you will be sparking something very ugly, and it will not turn out well for you.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:22 pm

Ariado wrote:Oblast, how about you don't send troops and all races get troops off the citadel. Making it a true neutral ground.

I will still keep a small military force there for emergencies.

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Postby Legital » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:23 pm

Archangelskl Oblast wrote:
Legital wrote:Alright. Let's see what we can lay out here since I believe there is some confusion with the CIS/Citadel situation.

The Batarians unloaded ten thousand soldiers.
The Systems Alliance has garrisoned a division (which is 12,000.)

The Geth have a fleet nearby (I believe) along with the Quarians.

If the Turians attempt martial law, then no one is backing down (on the CIS side). The CIS are not trying to invade or anything, it would appear forces are being garrisoned for reasons I don't know (save for the Systems Alliance who only has the division there to garrison with C-Sec and to protect humanity in the case of undue hostilities).

If universally agreed, we can all remove our military forces and leave the defense solely to C-sec


Oblast, 29 divisions is an act of war. Just saying. That is a ridiculous amount of military power. That's more than the CIS have.

ITS an appropriate action to what is unfolding. i will not let the CIS take over the galaxy.
And im Hastatim turians Not the hierarchy there's a difference. he can beat my fleet but i have everyone on the ground :) exempt Mabie the krogan.. but there to dis organized and they dont have any troops as of now.


The CIS sending a couple thousand troops and a passing fleet is not the start to a galactic war. 29 divisions is.

Everyone, let's just remove our forces from the Citadel. We can start a Council meeting. But Oblast, if those 29 divisions land, it's likely war.
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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:24 pm

Would this meeting be between only races that are part of the council and the CIS, or would any council race be able to send a delegate as this does directly effect races like the Hanar.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:25 pm

Legital wrote:
Archangelskl Oblast wrote:ITS an appropriate action to what is unfolding. i will not let the CIS take over the galaxy.
And im Hastatim turians Not the hierarchy there's a difference. he can beat my fleet but i have everyone on the ground :) exempt Mabie the krogan.. but there to dis organized and they dont have any troops as of now.


The CIS sending a couple thousand troops and a passing fleet is not the start to a galactic war. 29 divisions is.

Everyone, let's just remove our forces from the Citadel. We can start a Council meeting. But Oblast, if those 29 divisions land, it's likely war.

The Salarians will send a representative.

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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:26 pm

Legital wrote:
Archangelskl Oblast wrote:ITS an appropriate action to what is unfolding. i will not let the CIS take over the galaxy.
And im Hastatim turians Not the hierarchy there's a difference. he can beat my fleet but i have everyone on the ground :) exempt Mabie the krogan.. but there to dis organized and they dont have any troops as of now.


The CIS sending a couple thousand troops and a passing fleet is not the start to a galactic war. 29 divisions is.

Everyone, let's just remove our forces from the Citadel. We can start a Council meeting. But Oblast, if those 29 divisions land, it's likely war.

War for what im invited and we are just there to keep the peace.
the CIS has to may troops over there. im sure imperial would do the same thing.
and trust me i can handle myself.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:28 pm

The the Batarians do not leave I will be obligated to send troops to support the Salarians
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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:28 pm

Oblast, calm down, a galactic war would ruin both sides. diplomacy will make things a lot easier in the end.

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Postby Segmentia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:28 pm

Archangelskl Oblast wrote:War for what im invited and we are just there to keep the peace.
the CIS has to may troops over there. im sure imperial would do the same thing.
and trust me i can handle myself.


Keeping the peace is C-Secs job.

And against several major species? I doubt you would last long.
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Postby Ariado » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:29 pm

Imperial, we are trying to get everyone to send their troops off the Citadel. Threatening will only make it harder.

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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:29 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:The the Batarians do not leave I will be obligated to send troops to support the Salarians

MY POINT EXACTLY! im moving my 29 marine divisions.
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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:30 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Archangelskl Oblast wrote:War for what im invited and we are just there to keep the peace.
the CIS has to may troops over there. im sure imperial would do the same thing.
and trust me i can handle myself.


Keeping the peace is C-Secs job.

And against several major species? I doubt you would last long.

trust me i have a few tricks up my sleeve. you wont be redy for :twisted:
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