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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:57 pm

The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:What about The Romanian And Caucasus Oil reserves :(

Okay, correction: any country that has oil reserves above 39,800 MMbbl.

Glasgia wrote:Fancy leaning to the left* and trading with Strathclyde? We can provide you with high quality weapons, military bases in Northern Europe and the Atlantic, manufacturing deals or anything else you need. Just give us access to oil at a fair price and I'll give you what you want, within reason.
*Just recommending you nationalise oil. I know you'd probably hate the idea OOCly, but it makes sense if you want full control over oil reserves which could make your government tons

I will pass up on leaning to left, I prefer to remain neutral...
However, yes on the trade. Military bases, and support in war for liberation of Nepal in return for 1.602 million bbl per year at 115% of cost price, agreement lasting for 20 years? (that should be enough to fulfill your oil needs since that's oil consumption of modern Japan).

And, of course oil is nationalised. Government gets everything produced in the districts.

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Great Nepal wrote:Speaking of which:
To nations who control Venezuela, Canada, Libya, Russia, Libya and Kazakhstan, should we form OPEC? We would have practical monopoly on oil trade.

Sure.

Awesome!
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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:59 pm

Also, does anyone want Cascadia? If not, I'll just make a semi-rebellious Cascadian Federation there, so I don't have to blob over more.

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Postby North Yakistan » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:31 pm

Mishmahig wrote:Also, does anyone want Cascadia? If not, I'll just make a semi-rebellious Cascadian Federation there, so I don't have to blob over more.


I already own it, The remaning NW North America plus Hawaii and the Micronesian islands east of the dateline are all part of the Pacific Republic.
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I am a Voluntarist Anarchist. Break your chains and smash the state!

Pro:Free Markets, Free people, Free love, property rights, privacy rights, weapons rights, Survivalism, Homesteading, Seasteding, Micronations, self ownership, non-Agression principal, and pAnarchism.

Against: The State, Marxism, Communism, State Capitalism, Taxation, Victimless crimes, the initiation of force, and urbanization.

Economic Left/Right: 9
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92
“What anarcho-communists see as existing because of the state, ancaps see as existing despite the state and vice versa.”

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North Yakistan
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Postby North Yakistan » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:34 pm

North Yakistan wrote:Nation: The Pacific Republic

Flag:(Image)

Territory claimed. NW North America including Oregon, Washington, BC, and Alaska. Also Hawaii and all Micronesian islands east of the international date line.

1st World

Leader: Carlos Danger

Government: Libertarian Democratic Republic

Capitol: Vancouver

Population: 25,000,000


see, smine :p
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I am a Voluntarist Anarchist. Break your chains and smash the state!

Pro:Free Markets, Free people, Free love, property rights, privacy rights, weapons rights, Survivalism, Homesteading, Seasteding, Micronations, self ownership, non-Agression principal, and pAnarchism.

Against: The State, Marxism, Communism, State Capitalism, Taxation, Victimless crimes, the initiation of force, and urbanization.

Economic Left/Right: 9
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92
“What anarcho-communists see as existing because of the state, ancaps see as existing despite the state and vice versa.”

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:41 pm

North Yakistan wrote:
North Yakistan wrote:Nation: The Pacific Republic

Flag:(Image)

Territory claimed. NW North America including Oregon, Washington, BC, and Alaska. Also Hawaii and all Micronesian islands east of the international date line.

1st World

Leader: Carlos Danger

Government: Libertarian Democratic Republic

Capitol: Vancouver

Population: 25,000,000


see, smine :p


You, uh, got rejected by the OP.

Fortunagen wrote:Okay, I'm back, now time to start accepting/denying apps.

North Yakistan wrote:Nation: The Pacific Republic

Flag:(Image)

Territory claimed. NW North America including Oregon, Washington, BC, and Alaska. Also Hawaii and all Micronesian islands east of the international date line.

1st World

Leader: Carlos Danger

Government: Libertarian Democratic Republic

Capitol: Vancouver

Population: 25,000,000

Lol Nope.

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Dwartzur
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Postby Dwartzur » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:03 pm

Mishmahig wrote:Also, does anyone want Cascadia? If not, I'll just make a semi-rebellious Cascadian Federation there, so I don't have to blob over more.


Meh, just leave it open. Then if someone arrives in the middle of the RP they can make an app for it. Just like I did in Blood & Bayonets, filling up Turkey.

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Postby Kerblaekistan » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:30 pm

Kerblaekistan wrote:WIP
Nation Name: The Arab Coalition of New Babylonia
National Flag:

Claims:

Form of Government: Totalitarian Dictatorship
World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): 3rd, soon to be whoever appeals to us.
Head of State: President Saddam Pasha
Capital City: Baghdad
Population: 27,000,000
Military Size: 3.5%, or 945,000
Military Type: All of the soldiers in The Armed Forces of New Babylonia are trained from their youth for their specific role. They are very modernized, as the country is rich from all of its oil.
Naval Strength: The New Babylonian Navy is small, with all the ships based in Lebanon.
Economic Strength: New Babylon is A very wealthy nation, mostly due to the wide quantities of oil found throughout the nation.
Land Routes: The nation's infrastructure is very advanced.
Sea Routes Thousands of gallons of oil passes through the port of Beirut.
History:
The Arab Coalition of New Babylonia's history begins in 1946, when the failing nations of Iraq, Lebanon and Syria formed The Coalition of Middle Eastern States. Not long after their formation, CMES invaded the Republic of the Middle East to prove their new superiority. Though they were able to expand into the oil-rich Arabian desert, the war put the Coalition in another financial crisis. In a desperate attempt to save their country, the government sold the nation to oil tycoon Saddam Pasha. He completely overhauled the country, dramatically changing the government and renaming the country The Arab Coalition of New Babylonia, after his oil company Babylon Corporation. Saddam modernized the military and divided the children to go to different schools depending on their strength.
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:18 am

Mishmahig wrote:
North Yakistan wrote:
see, smine :p


You, uh, got rejected by the OP.

Fortunagen wrote:Okay, I'm back, now time to start accepting/denying apps.


Lol Nope.

No wonder.

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The Three Cantons
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Postby The Three Cantons » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:31 am

Still waiting for the damn IC :p
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:35 am

The Three Cantons wrote:Still waiting for the damn IC :p

Same.

Who is the blue in Argentina & Chile?
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The Three Cantons
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Postby The Three Cantons » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:36 am

Alleniana wrote:
The Three Cantons wrote:Still waiting for the damn IC :p

Same.

Who is the blue in Argentina & Chile?

I dont really know, SOOOO much OOC and so little time to check.
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:45 am

The Three Cantons wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Same.

Who is the blue in Argentina & Chile?

I dont really know, SOOOO much OOC and so little time to check.

I searched for it, coukldn't find it.

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The Three Cantons
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Postby The Three Cantons » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:54 am

I am really worried about having no major commie power in this RP.
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Postby Mishmahig » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:54 am

Alleniana wrote:
The Three Cantons wrote:Still waiting for the damn IC :p

Same.

Who is the blue in Argentina & Chile?


The OP.

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North Calaveras
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Postby North Calaveras » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:57 am

The Three Cantons wrote:I am really worried about having no major commie power in this RP.


well im the GDR(East Germany, though I own all of Germany)
Government: Romanist Ceasarist Dictatorship
Political Themes: Nationalism, Romanticism, Ceasarism, Militarism, Social Liberalism, Cult of Personality
Ethnic Groups: American, Latino, Filipino

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:58 am

The Three Cantons wrote:I am really worried about having no major commie power in this RP.


There's also no major capitalistic power here, either.

Lots of middling powers on both sides.

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The Three Cantons
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Postby The Three Cantons » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:58 am

North Calaveras wrote:
The Three Cantons wrote:I am really worried about having no major commie power in this RP.


well im the GDR(East Germany, though I own all of Germany)

And I am the Central-West African Republic, your not so friendly Apartheid state :lol:
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Postby Caltarania » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:07 am

The Three Cantons wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
well im the GDR(East Germany, though I own all of Germany)

And I am the Central-West African Republic, your not so friendly Apartheid state :lol:


I'd say I'm the biggest Capitalist in this rp.

I mean, Venice literally only exists because or trade and capitalism!

So that's Venice, your democratic merchant republic. Now with 80% more empire!
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The Three Cantons
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Postby The Three Cantons » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:12 am

Caltarania wrote:
The Three Cantons wrote:And I am the Central-West African Republic, your not so friendly Apartheid state :lol:


I'd say I'm the biggest Capitalist in this rp.

I mean, Venice literally only exists because or trade and capitalism!

So that's Venice, your democratic merchant republic. Now with 80% more empire!

So...here is my personal list.

Pro-CWAR
  • Venice
  • NAU
  • Spain

Anti-CWAR
  • Everyone else
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Glasgia
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Postby Glasgia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:22 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Fancy leaning to the left* and trading with Strathclyde? We can provide you with high quality weapons, military bases in Northern Europe and the Atlantic, manufacturing deals or anything else you need. Just give us access to oil at a fair price and I'll give you what you want, within reason.
*Just recommending you nationalise oil. I know you'd probably hate the idea OOCly, but it makes sense if you want full control over oil reserves which could make your government tons

I will pass up on leaning to left, I prefer to remain neutral...
However, yes on the trade. Military bases, and support in war for liberation of Nepal in return for 1.602 million bbl per year at 115% of cost price, agreement lasting for 20 years? (that should be enough to fulfill your oil needs since that's oil consumption of modern Japan).

And, of course oil is nationalised. Government gets everything produced in the districts.


Wait, wait, wait. I give you a couple of bases and support for your war, yet I still have to pay 115% of cost price? Remember, I do have a tiny bit of north sea oil so I'm not completely dependent on you.

So a bit of calculation here. In 1979, North Sea oil hit its peak with the Forties oil field producing about five hundred thousand barrels a day. If I add on smaller oil fields like Brent near Shetland and assume the rest is owned by the UCK, I could be producing six hundred thosuand barrels a day. In a year, that's two hundred and nineteen million barrels.

So, to work out what I need from you I need statistics of my own. You offered Japan, and their economy is and was very diferrent to mine, but I'm gonna go with it. In 1980, their population was a hundred and twenty million. They consumed one billion, eight hundred and ten million and four hundred thousand barrels of oil. I have a sixth of the population, so let's assume I use a sixth of the oil. That'd leave me with a consumption of three hundred and one million, seven hundred and thirty three thousand, three hundred and thirty three barrels every year. However, I'm quite industrialised so let's bring that up another hundred and fifty million to four hundred and fifty one million, seven hundred and thirty three thousand, three hundred and thirty three barrels every year. Luckily, to save the long numbers, the government keeps reserves so I need about four hundred and sixty million barrels per year. If I produce two hundred and nineteen million of those barrels, I need two hundred and forty one million barrels a year from elsewhere.

Calculations over? Oh hell no. In 1973, before the oil crisis, a barrel of oil cost slightly over ten poundsterling, that being the modern currency equivalent to about two pounds. For two hundred and forty one million barrels, that two billion, four hundred and ten million pounds.

So, down to the deal. If I give you: two naval bases, exclusively yours; access to any of my ground or air bases; and a billion pounds worth of weaponry; would you give me two hundred and forty million barrels of oil?
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:43 am

Glasgia wrote:So, down to the deal. If I give you: two naval bases, exclusively yours; access to any of my ground or air bases; and a billion pounds worth of weaponry; would you give me two hundred and forty million barrels of oil?

Throw in support for Liberation of Nepal and we have a deal (really, I just need neutralization of Indian navy, we can handle it from there)...
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Postby Glasgia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:48 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Glasgia wrote:So, down to the deal. If I give you: two naval bases, exclusively yours; access to any of my ground or air bases; and a billion pounds worth of weaponry; would you give me two hundred and forty million barrels of oil?

Throw in support for Liberation of Nepal and we have a deal (really, I just need neutralization of Indian navy, we can handle it from there)...


Sure, I'll send in a naval expeditionary force, providing I'm not tied down elsewhere.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:53 am

Glasgia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Throw in support for Liberation of Nepal and we have a deal (really, I just need neutralization of Indian navy, we can handle it from there)...


Sure, I'll send in a naval expeditionary force, providing I'm not tied down elsewhere.

I will make sure to start the war when you aren't tied down. We have a deal... :)
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Postby Glasgia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:56 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
Sure, I'll send in a naval expeditionary force, providing I'm not tied down elsewhere.

I will make sure to start the war when you aren't tied down. We have a deal... :)


*shakes Nepal's hand*

IC anyone?
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Alleniana
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:07 am

Hope the OP's app is up soon; they are one of my main rivals on the continent, though I imagine we both consider Paraguay to be a shit-spewing factory.

I can switch over to commie, if the RP throws an ERROR_404, NO MAJOR 2ND WORLD POWER FOUND. :p

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