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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 06, 2014 11:13 am

Just letting everyone know I'll be absent for the next several days.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon May 12, 2014 9:22 pm

I haven't forgotten about you guys, but it might be some time before I return...no later than the middle of next week.
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Postby Luziyca » Mon May 12, 2014 9:42 pm

Shrillland wrote:I haven't forgotten about you guys, but it might be some time before I return...no later than the middle of next week.

Yeah.

Nothing much has occurred anyways. Besides some boring wedding in Japan. ;)
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 16, 2014 9:29 pm

sigh, once again I will be absent for about a week. My keyboard died and the new one won't be here until then.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sat May 17, 2014 8:28 pm

Alright, so I realize it makes since Italy cannot come into the Americas and start colonizing stuff it never owned. However, since we're going to play a Brazilian storyline where Brazil's Empire will collapse, could it be made so that Portugal comes back into the fray here? If not, we'll stick with what's going to happen already ICly, which is that Princess Kimberly and the Junta of Portugal under the Junta Reino de Portugal will attempt to destroy whats left of the strong but crumbling Paraguese Republic, and as a result should they be successful these will be the results:
-Portugal will take control of Paraguay which will go on to be the only surviving colony under European control as a result of the strict crackdowns that will be enforced on Spanish Catholics in Paraguay. It will retain the land it owns that connects it to the sea.
-As a result, the Incan Federation will cede itself to the Incan Empire (Uni) to protect itself from further encroachment by Portuguese Colonial troops.

>I believe this is a fare compromise, and there will be a more elaborate and sensible storyline, because saying (This new Portuguese Junta-Kingdom that's bouncing back from its losses in the Portuguese War (Between the Netherlands, Germany and Japan), and is taking a [small bit of SA] to be its colonies up into the 1900's and possibly to through half of the 20th century is more realistic than saying: Oh yeah, this Italian Kingdom which is taking more losses in terms of Colonial claims in Africa than Portugal is and never set foot in the Americas is going to colonize all of Southern South America in a wink of an eye). So I hope this storyline is more suited to your gentlemens' liking.

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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 8:40 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Alright, so I realize it makes since Italy cannot come into the Americas and start colonizing stuff it never owned. However, since we're going to play a Brazilian storyline where Brazil's Empire will collapse, could it be made so that Portugal comes back into the fray here? If not, we'll stick with what's going to happen already ICly, which is that Princess Kimberly and the Junta of Portugal under the Junta Reino de Portugal will attempt to destroy whats left of the strong but crumbling Paraguese Republic, and as a result should they be successful these will be the results:
-Portugal will take control of Paraguay which will go on to be the only surviving colony under European control as a result of the strict crackdowns that will be enforced on Spanish Catholics in Paraguay. It will retain the land it owns that connects it to the sea.
-As a result, the Incan Federation will cede itself to the Incan Empire (Uni) to protect itself from further encroachment by Portuguese Colonial troops.

>I believe this is a fare compromise, and there will be a more elaborate and sensible storyline, because saying (This new Portuguese Junta-Kingdom that's bouncing back from its losses in the Portuguese War (Between the Netherlands, Germany and Japan), and is taking a [small bit of SA] to be its colonies up into the 1900's and possibly to through half of the 20th century is more realistic than saying: Oh yeah, this Italian Kingdom which is taking more losses in terms of Colonial claims in Africa than Portugal is and never set foot in the Americas is going to colonize all of Southern South America in a wink of an eye). So I hope this storyline is more suited to your gentlemens' liking.

Eh, I would accept under the condition that Guyane gets to take over Amapa.
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Postby Unicario » Sat May 17, 2014 8:49 pm

Hmm, I don't have any necessarily strong objections, but I do note that the Western Hemisphere is a volatile place for colonizers.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 9:10 pm

Unicario wrote:Hmm, I don't have any necessarily strong objections, but I do note that the Western Hemisphere is a volatile place for colonizers.

Exactly. But in the second RP, when the Great War occurs due to Guyana invading Amapa if it is still going on, I might plan on signing an agreement with Brazil that makes them cede all of their territories in the Guiana Shield and its outliers (plus a straight line extending from its southwesternmost point on that outlier to the Pacific) in exchange for allying with them to conquer the rest of South America, while we conquer territory north of the shield.

Yes, Guyane would attempt their own Napoleonic Wars, with British help, to take Central America and possibly North America, but leaving British possessions alone (meaning their ideal front line will end in Canada), while Guyane sets up a bunch of client states modelled on the Guyanese system while the Guianas (Suriname, Spanish and British Guiana, although the Spanish would likely be part of British Guiana by then and of course, Guyane) would form a federation on the Guiana shield (and the coast) comprising of five states who are in theory sovereign nations who agreed to join, but in practice are really unitary with only the British area (and Spanish Guiana should Britain take it over) remaining autonomous, while the rest take their orders from Pichegru.

Guyane may probably become a constitutional monarchy in 1890 after Queen Victoria visits Guyane and the National Assembly plus the President strip the powers of the President to be the head of government while the British monarch becomes Queen of Guyane, but in 1892, the National Assembly names her Empress. If we lose or it becomes a stalemate, the monarchy would likely be abolished, and a Socialist Revolution that reorganizes the government to make Guyane along the lines of the Nordic model.

I also can't help but notice that Britain and revolutionary France hated each other, yet in this RP, Britain and Guyane (basically revolutionary France prior to Napoleon) are close allies, although that is more due to how few trusted Guyane in the western hemisphere.
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Postby Unicario » Sat May 17, 2014 9:16 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Unicario wrote:Hmm, I don't have any necessarily strong objections, but I do note that the Western Hemisphere is a volatile place for colonizers.

Exactly. But in the second RP, when the Great War occurs due to Guyana invading Amapa if it is still going on, I might plan on signing an agreement with Brazil that makes them cede all of their territories in the Guiana Shield and its outliers (plus a straight line extending from its southwesternmost point on that outlier to the Pacific) in exchange for allying with them to conquer the rest of South America, while we conquer territory north of the shield.

Yes, Guyane would attempt their own Napoleonic Wars, with British help, to take Central America and possibly North America, but leaving British possessions alone (meaning their ideal front line will end in Canada), while Guyane sets up a bunch of client states modelled on the Guyanese system while the Guianas (Suriname, Spanish and British Guiana, although the Spanish would likely be part of British Guiana by then and of course, Guyane) would form a federation on the Guiana shield (and the coast) comprising of five states who are in theory sovereign nations who agreed to join, but in practice are really unitary with only the British area (and Spanish Guiana should Britain take it over) remaining autonomous, while the rest take their orders from Pichegru.

Guyane may probably become a constitutional monarchy in 1890 after Queen Victoria visits Guyane and the National Assembly plus the President strip the powers of the President to be the head of government while the British monarch becomes Queen of Guyane, but in 1892, the National Assembly names her Empress. If we lose or it becomes a stalemate, the monarchy would likely be abolished, and a Socialist Revolution that reorganizes the government to make Guyane along the lines of the Nordic model.

I also can't help but notice that Britain and revolutionary France hated each other, yet in this RP, Britain and Guyane (basically revolutionary France prior to Napoleon) are close allies, although that is more due to how few trusted Guyane in the western hemisphere.


I don't see that panning out well for you, considering the Inca Empire and Netherlands are close allies (made closer by sodomite Kings) and would call upon the CSA to help beat the shit out of Guyana. You might even possibly force Japan and the CSA into an armistice to deal with the mutual threat of Guyana which could ruin CSA's influence in Americas, and Japan's trading partnership with the Inca.

Basically, Dutch Suriname would put up a hell of a fight, as would the Inca Empire (who has the advantage of horrible terrain to use to brutalize the Guyanese soldiers)
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Postby Ruridova » Sat May 17, 2014 9:24 pm

Unicario wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Exactly. But in the second RP, when the Great War occurs due to Guyana invading Amapa if it is still going on, I might plan on signing an agreement with Brazil that makes them cede all of their territories in the Guiana Shield and its outliers (plus a straight line extending from its southwesternmost point on that outlier to the Pacific) in exchange for allying with them to conquer the rest of South America, while we conquer territory north of the shield.

Yes, Guyane would attempt their own Napoleonic Wars, with British help, to take Central America and possibly North America, but leaving British possessions alone (meaning their ideal front line will end in Canada), while Guyane sets up a bunch of client states modelled on the Guyanese system while the Guianas (Suriname, Spanish and British Guiana, although the Spanish would likely be part of British Guiana by then and of course, Guyane) would form a federation on the Guiana shield (and the coast) comprising of five states who are in theory sovereign nations who agreed to join, but in practice are really unitary with only the British area (and Spanish Guiana should Britain take it over) remaining autonomous, while the rest take their orders from Pichegru.

Guyane may probably become a constitutional monarchy in 1890 after Queen Victoria visits Guyane and the National Assembly plus the President strip the powers of the President to be the head of government while the British monarch becomes Queen of Guyane, but in 1892, the National Assembly names her Empress. If we lose or it becomes a stalemate, the monarchy would likely be abolished, and a Socialist Revolution that reorganizes the government to make Guyane along the lines of the Nordic model.

I also can't help but notice that Britain and revolutionary France hated each other, yet in this RP, Britain and Guyane (basically revolutionary France prior to Napoleon) are close allies, although that is more due to how few trusted Guyane in the western hemisphere.


I don't see that panning out well for you, considering the Inca Empire and Netherlands are close allies (made closer by sodomite Kings) and would call upon the CSA to help beat the shit out of Guyana. You might even possibly force Japan and the CSA into an armistice to deal with the mutual threat of Guyana which could ruin CSA's influence in Americas, and Japan's trading partnership with the Inca.

Basically, Dutch Suriname would put up a hell of a fight, as would the Inca Empire (who has the advantage of horrible terrain to use to brutalize the Guyanese soldiers)

Add to that the alliance between the CSA and Venezuela, the CSA's puppets, and the unofficial relations between the CSA and Germany, and thus the German-Hungarian Bloc.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 9:48 pm

Unicario wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Exactly. But in the second RP, when the Great War occurs due to Guyana invading Amapa if it is still going on, I might plan on signing an agreement with Brazil that makes them cede all of their territories in the Guiana Shield and its outliers (plus a straight line extending from its southwesternmost point on that outlier to the Pacific) in exchange for allying with them to conquer the rest of South America, while we conquer territory north of the shield.

Yes, Guyane would attempt their own Napoleonic Wars, with British help, to take Central America and possibly North America, but leaving British possessions alone (meaning their ideal front line will end in Canada), while Guyane sets up a bunch of client states modelled on the Guyanese system while the Guianas (Suriname, Spanish and British Guiana, although the Spanish would likely be part of British Guiana by then and of course, Guyane) would form a federation on the Guiana shield (and the coast) comprising of five states who are in theory sovereign nations who agreed to join, but in practice are really unitary with only the British area (and Spanish Guiana should Britain take it over) remaining autonomous, while the rest take their orders from Pichegru.

Guyane may probably become a constitutional monarchy in 1890 after Queen Victoria visits Guyane and the National Assembly plus the President strip the powers of the President to be the head of government while the British monarch becomes Queen of Guyane, but in 1892, the National Assembly names her Empress. If we lose or it becomes a stalemate, the monarchy would likely be abolished, and a Socialist Revolution that reorganizes the government to make Guyane along the lines of the Nordic model.

I also can't help but notice that Britain and revolutionary France hated each other, yet in this RP, Britain and Guyane (basically revolutionary France prior to Napoleon) are close allies, although that is more due to how few trusted Guyane in the western hemisphere.


I don't see that panning out well for you, considering the Inca Empire and Netherlands are close allies (made closer by sodomite Kings) and would call upon the CSA to help beat the shit out of Guyana. You might even possibly force Japan and the CSA into an armistice to deal with the mutual threat of Guyana which could ruin CSA's influence in Americas, and Japan's trading partnership with the Inca.

Basically, Dutch Suriname would put up a hell of a fight, as would the Inca Empire (who has the advantage of horrible terrain to use to brutalize the Guyanese soldiers)

Oh crap.

I should probably make an agreement with the CSA and the Dutch to remain neutral while Guyana takes over RL Mexico, and tries set up shop in Central America, but not take over the Dutch Netherlands and the Incas (but sending troops to help Brazil do the job for us). Then after we stabilized Central America, we could then backstab the Dutch and the CSA and try and take over Suriname and the CSA respectively.

Ruridova wrote:Add to that the alliance between the CSA and Venezuela, the CSA's puppets, and the unofficial relations between the CSA and Germany, and thus the German-Hungarian Bloc.

Don't forget China, as well. Heck, they'd be perfectly willing to try and set up shop in Japan's Pacific Islands except Hawaii and make an outer province with a Polynesian monarch for a few years before having them lose it in that treaty.
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Postby Ruridova » Sat May 17, 2014 9:50 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Unicario wrote:
I don't see that panning out well for you, considering the Inca Empire and Netherlands are close allies (made closer by sodomite Kings) and would call upon the CSA to help beat the shit out of Guyana. You might even possibly force Japan and the CSA into an armistice to deal with the mutual threat of Guyana which could ruin CSA's influence in Americas, and Japan's trading partnership with the Inca.

Basically, Dutch Suriname would put up a hell of a fight, as would the Inca Empire (who has the advantage of horrible terrain to use to brutalize the Guyanese soldiers)

Oh crap.

I should probably make an agreement with the CSA and the Dutch to remain neutral while Guyana takes over RL Mexico, and tries set up shop in Central America, but not take over the Dutch Netherlands and the Incas (but sending troops to help Brazil do the job for us). Then after we stabilized Central America, we could then backstab the Dutch and the CSA and try and take over Suriname and the CSA respectively.

Ruridova wrote:Add to that the alliance between the CSA and Venezuela, the CSA's puppets, and the unofficial relations between the CSA and Germany, and thus the German-Hungarian Bloc.

Don't forget China, as well. Heck, they'd be perfectly willing to try and set up shop in Japan's Pacific Islands except Hawaii and make an outer province with a Polynesian monarch for a few years before having them lose it in that treaty.

The CSA is not going to remain neutral if the Guyanese invade its puppet states in Mexico. And if you set foot in a Confederate region of Mexico? Oh you are sooooo fucked.

Guyana is going the way of revolutionary France, Luz. It's imperial ambitions are going to see it ruined.
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Postby Bojikami » Sat May 17, 2014 9:51 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Oh crap.

I should probably make an agreement with the CSA and the Dutch to remain neutral while Guyana takes over RL Mexico, and tries set up shop in Central America, but not take over the Dutch Netherlands and the Incas (but sending troops to help Brazil do the job for us). Then after we stabilized Central America, we could then backstab the Dutch and the CSA and try and take over Suriname and the CSA respectively.


Don't forget China, as well. Heck, they'd be perfectly willing to try and set up shop in Japan's Pacific Islands except Hawaii and make an outer province with a Polynesian monarch for a few years before having them lose it in that treaty.

The CSA is not going to remain neutral if the Guyanese invade its puppet states in Mexico. And if you set foot in a Confederate region of Mexico? Oh you are sooooo fucked.

Guyana is going the way of revolutionary France, Luz. It's imperial ambitions are going to see it ruined.

Venezuela will protect Mexico aswell. *nods*
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Postby Unicario » Sat May 17, 2014 9:53 pm

A war against Japan will be nothing but ruin for China, I promise you. Because China has magical technological supremacy that can easily break Japan's naval power in the Pacific?? This is why I'm fucking opposed to China being so powerful because HOLY SHIT MAGICAL FIFTY YEARS CHINA IS NOW STRONGER THAN JAPAN.

That's bullshit. And that's ALSO why I'm fucking never allowing revolts in my empire BECAUSE SOMEONE ALWAYS ATTACKS ME DURING IT AND I CAN NEVER RP A SOCIAL REVOLUTION!!!!!

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Postby Ruridova » Sat May 17, 2014 9:56 pm

Unicario wrote:A war against Japan will be nothing but ruin for China, I promise you.

And any action by Guyana in the Americas will lead to the CSA, al-Mayiquh, Rio Grande, Tehuantepec, Venezuela, Germany, and Hungary forming a nice coalition to fuck you up.
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Postby Unicario » Sat May 17, 2014 9:57 pm

To be quite honest, a Sino-Japanese War would be a war of complete attrition, with Japanese naval supremacy. Japan wouldn't be able to make gains in China proper, and China wouldn't be able to break Japan completely. It'd end up being a fucking stalemate, and would only serve to radicalize Japan further and make it to where if Japan gets nuclear weapons, Target #1 is Beijing.

Also, Luz, what you did is a pretty good way to piss off the Brits. I don't know if a nation or monarch would be happy with someone basically deriding their brothers and sisters in basically every way. Victoria sure as hell wouldn't let someone talk shit about her nephew like that, and considering the Anglo-Japanese Alliance is old as fuck, you see my meaning.

And once more, I raise the point that why is my colonial empire always the one targeted by people's ambitions? What, do I have a fucking bullseye on my forehead? Jesus, everyone always goes "HEY UNI DON'T DO THAT THAT'S GREATER EAST ASIAN CO PROSPERITY SPHERE UR BIG ENUF STOP BEING GODMODDER" when China fucking conquers a whole plethora of land in what, fifty years, everyone ignores it. When Germany takes 90% of Africa, everyone ignores it.

Fucking tired of this shit, mate.
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Uh yeah... taking their tools? That's really fucking petty. Don't you think they would've been *seen* doing that? Come now.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 10:18 pm

Unicario wrote:To be quite honest, a Sino-Japanese War would be a war of complete attrition, with Japanese naval supremacy. Japan wouldn't be able to make gains in China proper, and China wouldn't be able to break Japan completely. It'd end up being a fucking stalemate, and would only serve to radicalize Japan further and make it to where if Japan gets nuclear weapons, Target #1 is Beijing.

Understood.

Unicario wrote:Also, Luz, what you did is a pretty good way to piss off the Brits. I don't know if a nation or monarch would be happy with someone basically deriding their brothers and sisters in basically every way. Victoria sure as hell wouldn't let someone talk shit about her nephew like that, and considering the Anglo-Japanese Alliance is old as fuck, you see my meaning.

I understand why. Let's just say his "apology" won't be received positively in Japan at best, and at worst, preparing for war.

Unicario wrote:And once more, I raise the point that why is my colonial empire always the one targeted by people's ambitions? What, do I have a fucking bullseye on my forehead? Jesus, everyone always goes "HEY UNI DON'T DO THAT THAT'S GREATER EAST ASIAN CO PROSPERITY SPHERE UR BIG ENUF STOP BEING GODMODDER" when China fucking conquers a whole plethora of land in what, fifty years, everyone ignores it. When Germany takes 90% of Africa, everyone ignores it.

Fucking tired of this shit, mate.

Well, it's more because your colonial Empire would last into the present day. Mine would be gone in 125 years between its rise and fall, and instead replaced by a British Commonwealth organization with a common currency until the Asians adopt a common currency, comprising of China, Central Asia, Kenya and the Maldives.
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Postby Unicario » Sat May 17, 2014 10:21 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Unicario wrote:To be quite honest, a Sino-Japanese War would be a war of complete attrition, with Japanese naval supremacy. Japan wouldn't be able to make gains in China proper, and China wouldn't be able to break Japan completely. It'd end up being a fucking stalemate, and would only serve to radicalize Japan further and make it to where if Japan gets nuclear weapons, Target #1 is Beijing.

Understood.

Unicario wrote:Also, Luz, what you did is a pretty good way to piss off the Brits. I don't know if a nation or monarch would be happy with someone basically deriding their brothers and sisters in basically every way. Victoria sure as hell wouldn't let someone talk shit about her nephew like that, and considering the Anglo-Japanese Alliance is old as fuck, you see my meaning.

I understand why. Let's just say his "apology" won't be received positively in Japan at best, and at worst, preparing for war.

Unicario wrote:And once more, I raise the point that why is my colonial empire always the one targeted by people's ambitions? What, do I have a fucking bullseye on my forehead? Jesus, everyone always goes "HEY UNI DON'T DO THAT THAT'S GREATER EAST ASIAN CO PROSPERITY SPHERE UR BIG ENUF STOP BEING GODMODDER" when China fucking conquers a whole plethora of land in what, fifty years, everyone ignores it. When Germany takes 90% of Africa, everyone ignores it.

Fucking tired of this shit, mate.

Well, it's more because your colonial Empire would last into the present day. Mine would be gone in 125 years between its rise and fall, and instead replaced by a British Commonwealth organization with a common currency until the Asians adopt a common currency, comprising of China, Central Asia, Kenya and the Maldives.


I've repeatedly stated my colonial empire will devolve into a British Commonwealth-type system, except for Taiwan and Korea, which are close enough to Japan to justify them staying as members of the Empire. >_>
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The Empire of Japan and the Commonwealth Realms (1838-1889)
The Commonwealth of East Asia (1889-1897)
The Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere (1897-1963)
The East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere (1963-1969)
The Empire of Japan and East Asia (1969-)


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Reigning Monarch (as of March 10, 2014): Tenno William, Emperor of Japan, Emperor of Korea, Son of Amaterasu, Defender of the Shinto Faith, Caliph and Grand Imam of the Japanese Islamic Faith, Lord-Protector of the Anglican Church in Japan, Protector of the Far East, President of the Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere (see: Asian version of the EU mixed with the Commonwealth Realms)

Capital: Edo
Government: Constitutional Absolutism
National Language: (prior to 1883) Japanese
(post-1883) Anglo-Japanese*, Korean, Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, Thai, Cantonese
(as of 2014) Anglo-Japanese, Korean, Cantonese

National Religion: Shinto-Buddhism, Sanguine Christianity**, Japanese Islam***
National Anthem(s): Furusato and My Country 'Tis of Thee

Home Provinces:
Province of Hokkaido
Province of Tohoku
Province of Kanto
Province of Chubu
Province of Kansai
Province of Chugoku
Province of Shikoku
Province of Kyushu
Province of Oceania
Province of Ryukyu
Province of Formosa
Singapore City Administration


Korean Provinces (Korean Peninsula):
Jeju Island (제주도 / Jeju-do)
Province of Gyeongsang (경남 / Gyeongnamdo)
Province of Jeolla (전라남도 / Jeollanamdo)
Province of Chuncheong (충청남도 / Chungcheongnamdo
Province of Gangwon (강원도 / Gangwondo)
Province of Seoul ( 서울 지방 / Seoulnamdo )
Province of Hwanghae (황해도 / Hwanghae-do
Province of Pyongan (평양 지방 / Pyeongyangdo )
Province of Hamgyong (함경북도 / Hamgyeongbugdo )


Dominions (as of 2014):
- Socialist Federated Provinces of Vietnam
- Socialist Provinces of Laos
- Socialist Provinces of Cambodia
- Kingdom of Thailand
- Sultanate of Malaysia
- United Provinces of the Meiji Islands (Philippines)
- Kingdom of Somalia
- Empire of Ethiopia
- Dominion of Mozambique




Sovereign Monarchs

Akiko (1774-1837) - The Divine Meiji (Shinto-Buddhist) (born: Akiko, Crown Princess)
George (1837-1838)**** - The Holy Martyr (Shinto-Buddhist) (born: George Momozono, Prince of Hokkaido)
Alexander (1838-1911) The Great Restorer (Japanese Islam) (born: Alexander Hiroshi, Prince of Kyushu)
Elizabeth (1911-1936) The Just Law-Bringer (Shinto-Buddhist) (born: Elizabeth Marie, Prince of Hokkaido)
Alexander (1936-1982) The Great Defender (Shinto-Buddhist) (born: August James Alexander, Prince of Hokkaido)
June (1982-2008) The Magnificent (Sanguine Christian) (born: June Akiko, Princess of Hokkaido)
William (2008-) The Charitable (Japanese Islam) (born: William Alexander, Prince of Hokkaido)

Heir to the Throne: Princess Julia Elizabeth, Princess of Hokkaido (b. 11. February 2000)

After the Language Reform, Era names were abolished and replaced with post-houmous mentions of their glory. The only monarch to retain her Era Name, was Empress Meiji, who by the time of the reform was revered as almost a God-like figure. The cult around Meiji, George and Alexander would become the basis of Japanese folklore and cultism well into modern day.

Many Japanese Sanguinists and "Diviners" believe that the 14 year old Princess Julia is the reincarnation of the legendary Meiji. Hailing her as "Meiji the Second", many wish to see her installed onto the Japanese throne at the earliest possible convienence. Her father is adamantly stalwart in protecting her from the "crazy cultists".





Chancellors

None (1774-1789)
Thomas Jefferson (1789-1806) - Conservative Party - Amerikahito
John Adams (1806-1822) - Conservative Party - Amerikahito
John Quincy Adams (1822-1838) - Conservative Party - Amerikahito
Ieyoshi Tokugawa (1838-1853) - Liberal Democratic Party
Kasumi Nakano (1853-1869) - Liberal Democratic Party
Ichirou Jefferson (1869-1891) - Conservative Party
Syngman Rhee (1891-1901) - Conservative Party
Percy Hirobumi (1901-1909) - Conservative Party
Martin Genkishi (1909-1919) - Workers Party
Kim Hyong-jik (1919-1924) - Workers Party
Adm. Isaac Yamamoto (1924-1944) - Liberal Democratic Party
Nguyen Sinh Con (1944-1949) - Liberal Democratic Party
Syngman Rhee (1949-1950) - Conservative Party*****
Kim Il-sung (1950-1968) - Liberal Democratic Party - Son of PM Kim Hyong-jik.
Alexander Satō (1968-1974) - Liberal Democratic Party
Masayoshi Ōhira (1974-1980) - Liberal Democratic Party
Kim Jong-il(1980-1994) - Liberal Democratic Party - Son of PM Kim Il-sung, Grandson of Hyong-jik
Rachel Takahashi (1994-1996) - Workers Party - Resigned in 1996
Sarah Adams (1996-2004) - Conservative Party - Descendant of John Adams
Benjamin Franklin II(2004-2009) - Liberal Democratic Party - Descendant of Benjamin Franklin
Kim Jong-un (2009-) - Workers Party

* In 1883, due to the complexities of the Old Japanese language, the Imperial Senate voted to abolish it as the national language. The 1883 Language Reform created "Anglo-Japanese" which retained the names and titles of Japanese, but adopted mostly English vocabulary.
** The popularity of Sanguine Christianity forced the Imperial Senate to recognize it's legitimacy in 1874.
*** Japanese Islam was created in the 1850's by a group of Japanese Muslims in Kyushu and Okinawa reforming Islamic law in their realm. It maintains the five core tenets of Islam, but has lifted the pork ban for various reasons, and objects to sharia law and burkhas.
**** Emperor George is usually omitted from lists of Emperors due to the fact he was assassinated before his coronation.
***** Syngman Rhee was impeached by the Senate one year into his second term of office several decades later.
┼The Emperor is practically an absolute monarch, but democratic elections and the Senate may not be disturbed by the Emperor at any time without a majority Senate vote agreeing with him. He however, is the Leader of the Senate, and may veto or remove any law he feels violates Japanese people's rights, but the Senate may override him by a super-majority vote.





Japanese Athletic Events:

Sengoku Games
- Held every four years following the outbreak of the 1331 War of Restoration, first practiced in 1335, three years after the Peace of Edo.
- Includes numerous major sports, and a show of nationalistic pride
- Comparable to OTL Arirang Games in North Korea.


Imperial Baseball Association
- Founded in 1908 by Baseball fans across Japan
- Holds a Pan-Asian Baseball Cup every season
- Comparable to American MLB

Edo Imperials (August 14, 1908)
Osaka Sunshine (August 15, 1908)
Niigata Kings (September 3, 1908)
Hiroshima Firestorms (September 4, 1908)
Nagasaki Tidal Waves (September 9, 1908)
Sapporo Samurai (September 20, 1908)
Kyushu Kappas (November 1, 1908)
Taipei Tigers (November 3, 1908)
Pusan Destroyers (November 6, 1908)
Seoul Slammers (November 11, 1908)
Incheon Ghosts (January 15, 1909)
Singapore Sailors (January 26, 1909)
Tet Guardsmen (January 26, 1909)
Pyongyang Franklins (August 3, 1911)
Manila Maniacs (August 9, 1911)
Saigon Swordsmen (September 2, 1911)
Hanoi Hornets (September 14, 1911)
Singapore Fighters (September 30, 1911)
Mumbai Warriors (January 1, 1912 - January 1, 1968) = Withdrew from IBA due to passing of territory to Indian control in 1968
Okinawa Killers (March 1, 1957)
[lots more but you get the general idea]


Japanese Football League
- Established in 1909 by Association Football fans across Japan.
- Holds Pan-Asian Football Cup every season to decide the best team in Asia.
- Member of FIFA

F.C. Edo (January 1, 1909)
F.C. Kyoto (January 1, 1909)
F.C. Osaka (January 1, 1909)
South Korean F.A. (January 21, 1909)
North Korean F.A. (January 23, 1909)
F.C. Formosa (January 25, 1909)
Hanoi F.C. (January 26, 1909)
Saigon F.C. (April 6, 1910)
Tet F.A. (April 11, 1910)
Laos F.A. (April 15, 1910)
Khmer F.C. (April 19, 1910)
Singapore F.C. (April 22, 1910)
South Japan F.A. (April 28, 1910)
North Japan F.A. (April 30, 1910)
Hokkaido F.A. (April 30, 1910)
Niigata F.C. (April 31, 1910)
== In 1911, Football Clubs were opening all over Japan at such a rapid rate it was impossible to record it. By 1939, every city in Japan had a football team or was cheering for one. ==
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Ruling party is the Zenminjintō (Socialist Coalition)
Ginkaigan is currently at peace.

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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 10:36 pm

Unicario wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Understood.


I understand why. Let's just say his "apology" won't be received positively in Japan at best, and at worst, preparing for war.


Well, it's more because your colonial Empire would last into the present day. Mine would be gone in 125 years between its rise and fall, and instead replaced by a British Commonwealth organization with a common currency until the Asians adopt a common currency, comprising of China, Central Asia, Kenya and the Maldives.


I've repeatedly stated my colonial empire will devolve into a British Commonwealth-type system, except for Taiwan and Korea, which are close enough to Japan to justify them staying as members of the Empire. >_>

I suppose. Our only colony that will stay with us after the 1960s would be the Chagos Islands.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat May 17, 2014 11:35 pm

Some things about Crimean Tatar.

At the time, their language used the Arap script, but the term was just a cover for two scripts which happened to share a common origin: Arabic. The southern Arap (Bakhchisarai or Guney) script is similar to Dari, while the northern script (Curçı, or Kuzey) would have more in common with the Sindhi script. Since by the 1830s, the Guney script is used more often than the Kuzey script amongst the Crimean Tatar elite, as well as many southern peasants, they would be used to promote propaganda, while the Kuzey script would be used for secret messages.

Plus, after the 1840s, their language would evolve closer to Turkish until by the time that Ukraine invades Crimea in the 1930s, it virtually uses Turkish except it uses the Arap script. The Bakhchisarai Arap script would be the official script of Crimea, even after communism took hold (albeit more revisionist), primarily since Arap was the only distinguisher between it and Turkish, despite proposals to reform Crimean Tatar and have it adopt the Latin alphabet, besides a bit of Ukranian loanwords. Thus, Crimea is probably the northernmost country that uses the Arabic script in the world (Kyrgyz would've switched to Simplified Chinese, Tajik would keep their script, same with Turkmen and Uzbek, Kazakhstan would adopt Cyrillic), albeit in the Guney Arap form (the Kuzey form is endangered and efforts are trying to revive the usage of the script since the 1980s, when there were only 11 people who knew the Kuzey script, outside of 60 members of the Crimean intelligence agency who knew it.

Some words of Modern Crimean Tatar would be:

English - Kuzey (Curci) Arap - Güney Arap (Bakhchisarai)- Turkish (Tatar)
Hello - پثقاشذش - عھدہمشم - Merhaba
How are you? - دشسهمهد؟ - غموبیبغ؟ - Nasılsın?
Good - هغه - بپب - Iyi
Not good - هغه یثلهم - بپب رھلہبی - Iyi değil
Bakhchisarai - ذشاثزاثسشقشغ - شملہےہمومدمپ - Bahçesaray (Bağçasaray in Curci)
Crimea - نهقهپ - طبدبع - Kırım (Qirim in Curci)
Ukraine - عنقشغدش - تکدمپبغم - Ukrayna (Ukrayina in Curci)
Are you hungry? - شز پهسهد؟ - مے عبوبغ؟ - Aç mısın?
Yes - ثرثف - ھسھٹ - Evet
No - اشغهق - ہمپبد - Hayır
Duke - اثقفسخا - ہھدٹوجہ - Sancak (Hertsoh)
Bye - ثمرثیش - ھیسھرم - Elveda
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Sun May 18, 2014 7:02 am

Has the telephone already been invented in this RP?

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Postby Unicario » Sun May 18, 2014 7:20 am

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Has the telephone already been invented in this RP?


It's 1838, so no. The telegraph has, much earlier than OTL, I guess.
Dai Ginkaigan Teikoku
Head of State: Ranko XIX Tentai
Ruling party is the Zenminjintō (Socialist Coalition)
Ginkaigan is currently at peace.

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Mon May 19, 2014 6:57 pm

So, for the upcoming reboot, I plan to have, like I said Portugal pull off taking over Paraguay but the Incan Federation ceding itself to the Incan Empire (Uni) because that's fair. So, this is the list of countries I have right now and plan to have later:
-Italy
-France
-Al-Andalus
-Russia
-Portugal
-Sweden (B/C I want a semi-British like country. Get ready for Neo-British politics to take over the Scandinavian Empire, reform into a country dominated by Stockholm, and then its gonna help turn big bad Russia into a Communist nation later on. Yeehaw.)

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