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Postby Unicario » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:38 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What is sad, is somehow, through the foresaken and twisted ways of sultry domination and advanced torture following something as bad as domination of gender vs. gender, I have somehow made Kim Kardashian IRL more of a queen bitch ICly than IRL. This is sad. And what is really sad, is these are only her first few days in power, and she is only 19.


Shrillland wrote:I utterly reject having such "celebrities" besmirching my RP.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:36 pm

Unicario wrote:
The Vaktovian Empire wrote:What is sad, is somehow, through the foresaken and twisted ways of sultry domination and advanced torture following something as bad as domination of gender vs. gender, I have somehow made Kim Kardashian IRL more of a queen bitch ICly than IRL. This is sad. And what is really sad, is these are only her first few days in power, and she is only 19.


Shrillland wrote:I utterly reject having such "celebrities" besmirching my RP.

Can we just punish Vak?
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:12 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Unicario wrote:

Can we just punish Vak?


He TG'd me saying that he wasn't trying to actually bring them in themselves, merely as a basic idea of their appearance. So I let him put them in.

Besides their provocative dressing, nothing else will be similar about them to their real-world counterparts. I just want to be the one to invent short skirts and open tops :P hypothetically at least.


If he can get this under control, I'll let him do so, if not, I'll take whatever action I deem necessary.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Thu May 01, 2014 1:37 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Can we just punish Vak?


He TG'd me saying that he wasn't trying to actually bring them in themselves, merely as a basic idea of their appearance. So I let him put them in.

Besides their provocative dressing, nothing else will be similar about them to their real-world counterparts. I just want to be the one to invent short skirts and open tops :P hypothetically at least.


If he can get this under control, I'll let him do so, if not, I'll take whatever action I deem necessary.


Well I'm not leaning anywhere making her more IRL than she is now, which is little to none, Unless that's not what you mean.

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Postby Shrillland » Thu May 01, 2014 1:45 pm

No, that's what I meant. Carry on.
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Somebody post something IC!!! I feel stupid posting two things of Portugal in a row.

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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 01, 2014 8:22 pm

I would post, except I have no idea of what to post.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu May 01, 2014 8:34 pm

Bojikami wrote:I would post, except I have no idea of what to post.

RP an uprising in Crimea.

If anything, mind if I RP an uprising by the Crimean Tatars?
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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 01, 2014 9:04 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I would post, except I have no idea of what to post.

RP an uprising in Crimea.

If anything, mind if I RP an uprising by the Crimean Tatars?

Crimean... communists? Or just tartar nationalists?
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Postby Ruridova » Thu May 01, 2014 9:10 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:RP an uprising in Crimea.

If anything, mind if I RP an uprising by the Crimean Tatars?

Crimean... communists? Or just tartar nationalists?

Not communists. Communism does not exist because Marx and Engels haven't created yet. The Manifesto is still something like a decade away.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu May 01, 2014 9:19 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:RP an uprising in Crimea.

If anything, mind if I RP an uprising by the Crimean Tatars?

Crimean... communists? Or just tartar nationalists?

Tatar nationalists, obviously, led by a great-grandson of Khan Şahin Giray who declares a Khanate in Crimea, as Khan Kemal Giray. Kemal would be pro-Ottoman, and set up a constitutional monarchy with Crimea's legislature being the Qurultay of the Crimean Khanate.

Crimea would align itself with Istanbul/Constantinople, and if it succeeds, it would be predominantly Islamic, ruled as a Khanate from 1840 (likely peace treaty since Russia and the Ukraine would recognize the value of a 'neutral' Crimea) from the capital of Bakhchysaray.
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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 01, 2014 9:21 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Crimean... communists? Or just tartar nationalists?

Tatar nationalists, obviously, led by a great-grandson of Khan Şahin Giray who declares a Khanate in Crimea, as Khan Kemal Giray. Kemal would be pro-Ottoman, and set up a constitutional monarchy with Crimea's legislature being the Qurultay of the Crimean Khanate.

Crimea would align itself with Istanbul/Constantinople, and if it succeeds, it would be predominantly Islamic, ruled as a Khanate from 1840 (likely peace treaty since Russia and the Ukraine would recognize the value of a 'neutral' Crimea) from the capital of Bakhchysaray.

Sounds fun. We need more action in Ukraine anyways.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu May 01, 2014 9:33 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Tatar nationalists, obviously, led by a great-grandson of Khan Şahin Giray who declares a Khanate in Crimea, as Khan Kemal Giray. Kemal would be pro-Ottoman, and set up a constitutional monarchy with Crimea's legislature being the Qurultay of the Crimean Khanate.

Crimea would align itself with Istanbul/Constantinople, and if it succeeds, it would be predominantly Islamic, ruled as a Khanate from 1840 (likely peace treaty since Russia and the Ukraine would recognize the value of a 'neutral' Crimea) from the capital of Bakhchysaray.

Sounds fun. We need more action in Ukraine anyways.

Yep. So, should I send an app to Shrilland?

Plus, think of when Ukraine gets utterly nationalistic in the 1930s. You can do to the Crimean Tatars what Hitler did for the Jews.
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Postby Bojikami » Thu May 01, 2014 9:39 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Sounds fun. We need more action in Ukraine anyways.

Yep. So, should I send an app to Shrilland?

Plus, think of when Ukraine gets utterly nationalistic in the 1930s. You can do to the Crimean Tatars what Hitler did for the Jews.

Oh my god yes. This would give more justification for the Ukrainian communists to come to power.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu May 01, 2014 9:48 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Yep. So, should I send an app to Shrilland?

Plus, think of when Ukraine gets utterly nationalistic in the 1930s. You can do to the Crimean Tatars what Hitler did for the Jews.

Oh my god yes. This would give more justification for the Ukrainian communists to come to power.

Yeah. The Crimea Khanate would get restored, but the Tatars get reduced (most of the survivors fled to the Ottoman Empire) and despite being a constitutional monarchy, the Crimean Social Democratic Party could rule from when the communists in Kiev take power in a coalition with the Communist Party of Crimea until 1953 when they merge to form the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, or the CCF which rule under a "communism lite" in Crimea (basically they nationalize electricity, water, and housing, as well as some major factories, but regulate capitalism) until 1995 when they were exposed by a corruption scandal and the CCF lost all but 3 of their seats to the official opposition from 1973, the Islamic Party of Crimea, which advocates some conservatism. Then in 2000, the IPC wins again, but in 2007, the CCF retake power and could stay in charge of Crimea to this day. Until 1989, Crimea would be a communist puppet state, but it was a bit like Yugoslavia, except Ukranians, Romanians and Russians were a minority (Ukranians were only a majority in the 1940s, and fell into minority status by the 1958 census).

Or the communists abolish the Khanate, and today, most of the Tatars live in Anatolia.
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Postby Bojikami » Fri May 02, 2014 9:19 am

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Oh my god yes. This would give more justification for the Ukrainian communists to come to power.

Yeah. The Crimea Khanate would get restored, but the Tatars get reduced (most of the survivors fled to the Ottoman Empire) and despite being a constitutional monarchy, the Crimean Social Democratic Party could rule from when the communists in Kiev take power in a coalition with the Communist Party of Crimea until 1953 when they merge to form the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, or the CCF which rule under a "communism lite" in Crimea (basically they nationalize electricity, water, and housing, as well as some major factories, but regulate capitalism) until 1995 when they were exposed by a corruption scandal and the CCF lost all but 3 of their seats to the official opposition from 1973, the Islamic Party of Crimea, which advocates some conservatism. Then in 2000, the IPC wins again, but in 2007, the CCF retake power and could stay in charge of Crimea to this day. Until 1989, Crimea would be a communist puppet state, but it was a bit like Yugoslavia, except Ukranians, Romanians and Russians were a minority (Ukranians were only a majority in the 1940s, and fell into minority status by the 1958 census).

Or the communists abolish the Khanate, and today, most of the Tatars live in Anatolia.

Pre-Liberalisation, yes. Post-Liberalisation they would make Crimea semiautonomous.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 02, 2014 10:50 am

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Sounds fun. We need more action in Ukraine anyways.

Yep. So, should I send an app to Shrilland?

Plus, think of when Ukraine gets utterly nationalistic in the 1930s. You can do to the Crimean Tatars what Hitler did for the Jews.


Ypu can put up an app if you like. Sorry I haven't posted, I've had a lot of stuff going on RL.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri May 02, 2014 4:11 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Yeah. The Crimea Khanate would get restored, but the Tatars get reduced (most of the survivors fled to the Ottoman Empire) and despite being a constitutional monarchy, the Crimean Social Democratic Party could rule from when the communists in Kiev take power in a coalition with the Communist Party of Crimea until 1953 when they merge to form the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, or the CCF which rule under a "communism lite" in Crimea (basically they nationalize electricity, water, and housing, as well as some major factories, but regulate capitalism) until 1995 when they were exposed by a corruption scandal and the CCF lost all but 3 of their seats to the official opposition from 1973, the Islamic Party of Crimea, which advocates some conservatism. Then in 2000, the IPC wins again, but in 2007, the CCF retake power and could stay in charge of Crimea to this day. Until 1989, Crimea would be a communist puppet state, but it was a bit like Yugoslavia, except Ukranians, Romanians and Russians were a minority (Ukranians were only a majority in the 1940s, and fell into minority status by the 1958 census).

Or the communists abolish the Khanate, and today, most of the Tatars live in Anatolia.

Pre-Liberalisation, yes. Post-Liberalisation they would make Crimea semiautonomous.

Sure. Although a restored Khanate after that genocide (Sürgünlik) despite rule by the CCF until 1995 who was mainly communist and supported communism (siding with the communist government in Tashkent during the Uzbek Civil War from 1969-1979) had hostile ties to Ukraine and was allies with the Ottomans.

But if we choose not to do that, perhaps in 1989, a referendum was held with a majority of the population (including Crimean Tatar refugees and their descendants in Anatolia) voting for independence, and then a war from 1989-1995 that ends with most of the Crimean Peninsula being controlled by the secessionists (restoring the constitutional monarchy), but Ukraine keeps control of Aqyar/Sevastopol, Armyansk, and Krasnoperekopsk (including the raion and city).

The secessionists still claim those three areas, the Ukraine refuses to recognize Crimea as sovereign, but China, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan recognize Crimea as sovereign (Turkmenistan sees Crimea as part of Ukraine), and perhaps the Ottomans and the Chinese recognize Crimea as sovereign. The Khan rules as monarch, and the legislature has substantial power. Crimea would be less corrupt, but since the Crimean War (1989-1995), Ukrainians live in Armyansk and Krasnoperekopsk, and the Ukrainian exclave of Sevastopol (to make things confusing, there is a large Crimean Tatar-majority district in the middle of Sevastopol under rule from the Khanate, and within it, a small microdistrict is under Ukranian control, but a couple apartment complexes are under Crimean administration, but a home in the middle is under Ukranian control, making it like the Bengali-Indian enclave system).
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Postby Bojikami » Fri May 02, 2014 4:15 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Pre-Liberalisation, yes. Post-Liberalisation they would make Crimea semiautonomous.

Sure. Although a restored Khanate after that genocide (Sürgünlik) despite rule by the CCF until 1995 who was mainly communist and supported communism (siding with the communist government in Tashkent during the Uzbek Civil War from 1969-1979) had hostile ties to Ukraine and was allies with the Ottomans.

But if we choose not to do that, perhaps in 1989, a referendum was held with a majority of the population (including Crimean Tatar refugees and their descendants in Anatolia) voting for independence, and then a war from 1989-1995 that ends with most of the Crimean Peninsula being controlled by the secessionists (restoring the constitutional monarchy), but Ukraine keeps control of Aqyar/Sevastopol, Armyansk, and Krasnoperekopsk (including the raion and city).

The secessionists still claim those three areas, the Ukraine refuses to recognize Crimea as sovereign, but China, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan recognize Crimea as sovereign (Turkmenistan sees Crimea as part of Ukraine), and perhaps the Ottomans and the Chinese recognize Crimea as sovereign. The Khan rules as monarch, and the legislature has substantial power. Crimea would be less corrupt, but since the Crimean War (1989-1995), Ukrainians live in Armyansk and Krasnoperekopsk, and the Ukrainian exclave of Sevastopol (to make things confusing, there is a large Crimean Tatar-majority district in the middle of Sevastopol under rule from the Khanate, and within it, a small microdistrict is under Ukranian control, but a couple apartment complexes are under Crimean administration, but a home in the middle is under Ukranian control, making it like the Bengali-Indian enclave system).

I think the first one would work out.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri May 02, 2014 4:35 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Sure. Although a restored Khanate after that genocide (Sürgünlik) despite rule by the CCF until 1995 who was mainly communist and supported communism (siding with the communist government in Tashkent during the Uzbek Civil War from 1969-1979) had hostile ties to Ukraine and was allies with the Ottomans.

But if we choose not to do that, perhaps in 1989, a referendum was held with a majority of the population (including Crimean Tatar refugees and their descendants in Anatolia) voting for independence, and then a war from 1989-1995 that ends with most of the Crimean Peninsula being controlled by the secessionists (restoring the constitutional monarchy), but Ukraine keeps control of Aqyar/Sevastopol, Armyansk, and Krasnoperekopsk (including the raion and city).

The secessionists still claim those three areas, the Ukraine refuses to recognize Crimea as sovereign, but China, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan recognize Crimea as sovereign (Turkmenistan sees Crimea as part of Ukraine), and perhaps the Ottomans and the Chinese recognize Crimea as sovereign. The Khan rules as monarch, and the legislature has substantial power. Crimea would be less corrupt, but since the Crimean War (1989-1995), Ukrainians live in Armyansk and Krasnoperekopsk, and the Ukrainian exclave of Sevastopol (to make things confusing, there is a large Crimean Tatar-majority district in the middle of Sevastopol under rule from the Khanate, and within it, a small microdistrict is under Ukranian control, but a couple apartment complexes are under Crimean administration, but a home in the middle is under Ukranian control, making it like the Bengali-Indian enclave system).

I think the first one would work out.

Alright.
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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Fri May 02, 2014 6:20 pm

Well, since we're not allowed to invent actual sports early, I introduce to you my newest and greatest creation (Basically something I came up within a seconds time, and refined within a few minutes). I present to you the sport that will be started cooperatively with Russian and French Leagues, and will hopefully spread to become a European-dominant sport and be the second biggest sport in this AH RP next to Baseball. I give you; Longball!!!
So, the jist of the sport and its regulations/ rules are below. These are the rules according to the joint- Cooperative Longball Athletic Conference or CLAC, jointly between French and Russian teams.

LONGBALL
Rules, Regulations, and a Guide to the Formal Playing of the Game.
A handbook for coaches, an absolute necessity for players


TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Overview
2. Rules
3. Regulations
4. Equipment


Overview
Longball is a sport invented by French and Russian sports enthusiasts. First recommended in November 30th, 1835, in Lyon, France, during a joint-athletic competition and training camp between Russian and French athletes, Longball's formal founder is a man by the name of Siegfrield Steinman, a French Belgian from Rennes. The sport was later refined by Russian and French athletes Gregory Zimbolf, Alexander Karishnov, and Edward Hebber. Longball consists of aspects of both offense and defense play styles. The team on offense consists of a squadron entirely made of players with Longsticks. The Offense lineup and Defense lineup match up, and the normal amount of players is 11 players. The defensive lineup consists of both Longstick men, and Defensive Guards. Defensive Guards purely use their hands and are tasked with tackling offensive runners. In essence, the sport happens in terms of possession, with one team on offense and one team on defense. The offensive team gets 5 downs to get 10 yards on the field. They can accomplish this by running with the ball in their stick, passing it, or ground-passing it. Running means the player who yells: "Randon!" (Ran-Don) who starts with the ball when that person initiates the play has to either run with it themselves or pass it off to another runner by dropping it or short-passing it to the runner. The passing play involves someone throwing the ball up in the air towards the person past or on the 10 yard mark or further, or depending on if they're just trying to advance the ball, before the 10 yard mark. Ground-passing involves bounding the ball off the ground by throwing it, since the ball is a white bouncy ball, it can bounce off the ground and into another Longstick. The rules for the offense is that no players are guards, as its a strictly defensive position. Because of this, these players must hold their sticks. If they wish to block or tackle a defensive player to avoid the person with the ball to be tackled, then they must do it while holding the stick. Because of such, is why Longstick men wear the standard helmet and padding gear. The way a down works and how the defense stops the play is a few ways: The defense tackles the person with the ball: (either a guard or a sticksmen), a person on the defensive team hits the ball and it falls on the ground before being caught by an offensive player's stick. Or, the defensive player's stick touches the ball, but hits it to the ground, or catches the ball, which is an interception, and then automatically results in a moving play for the defense and they transition to the offense. Defensive players can have any number of guards to sticksmen ratio. It is better to equal this number out though, depending on the scouting and speed of the offensive team. Defensive teams must stop players from making more than 10 yards within 5 downs, or else it is an automatic first down against. The offense has the opportunity of throwing the ball (with the stick) or punting to the defensive team instead of allowing them to pick up where they left off on an incomplete 5th down. The way a goal is made is if the offensive player catches, runs or ground-catches the ball while standing in the end-zone. After a goal is made, teams are allowed to go for a Field Goal (Different from a goal, where the player attempts to throw the ball (With a Longstick) into the Field Goal Net, from 17 yards away. Or they can run it from the 20 yard line and attempt for a 2-point conversion. Goals are 4 points, FG's are 1 point, Conversions are 2 points. No offensive player can hold the ball at all unless with their stick. If they touch the ball with their hand, it's an automatic 5th down, and/or disqualification of the player from the game depending on the call and agreement of the officials.

Rules
-No disorderly or inappropriate conduct towards officials or said player will be penalized, team will be penalized, or disqualified. No enhancing performance contraptions or medications. No illegal drugs (Depending on said team. If game is at home, and in that country drugs are illegal those drugs [As long as they do not enhance performance] are allowed to be used by either team. If in a country with laws against said drugs, it is a no. Home-field rules for this rule
-No cheating, any said cheating will result in officials' judgement
-Any other regular sports rule for general sports applies
-All equipment subject to inspection by the CLAC
-All coaches must follow their handbooks given to them
-No illegal plays or intentional plays that involve players trying to injure the player they tackled more than just tackling them to end the play.
-No fighting allowed.
-Fans are subject to removal by officials if said officials try to remove fans from smaller, crowd-controllable games.
-Rules must be given for all players and coaches to read.
-If any other rule is up for question, ask a CLAC Representative

Regulations
-FG's are from 17 yards away
-Conversions at 20 yard line
-No offensive player touches ball with hand at any time
-FG's 1 point, Goal 4 points, Conversion 2 points
-Maximum Roster for teams (With lineup players and subs) is 25 players.
-Rectangular field 120 yards long by 53.33 yards wide
-Field Goal Posts at end
-End zone 10 yards long by 53⅓
-Only 11 players in at any one time.
-Field Goal Posts are to be exactly 53 feet 4 inches apart, and crossbar 10 feet above playing field. Side vertical posts are to be 30 feet tall.
-All sticks are to be the same, except for Long-Receivers, who may use the Large Longball Sticks.
-All Guards must wear Guard Helmets and Gear.
-All players drink water only.
-All players eat regulation foods only during game times.
-Each team is allowed to and must have a visiting and home locker room in the underbellies of the stadium. All teams must come prepared with athletic trainers, coaches, additional staff, and warm-up trainers, as well as medics and such. For serious, critical injuries, State, Province, Town, City, or National level Law Enforcement or Medical staff will be employed for both injuries and said issues with security and crowd-control.

Equipment

-Mandatory Sticksmen Equipment
(Required)
-Longball Stick (For Long-Receivers, Large Longball Sticks)
-Standard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest area and shoulder pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Padding in arms, legs, shoes, neck area, hands.
-Gloves for catching (Defensive gloves when on defense, which are made bigger and bolder to swat balls to the ground)
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-Mandatory Guard Equipment
(Required)
-Guard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest are and shoulder pads, stomach pad, hip pads, and back pelvis pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Guard Gloves (Even larger than Defensive Gloves for Sticksmen. Can swat a ball very easily, and are like a Hockey-Goalie Glove.
-Knee, Leg, Shoe, Neck Area, and Hand pads or braces/skin guards.
Guard
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(In Winter and Fall, all positions are required to wear long pants, and long sleeves, and in Summer and Spring, these are optional.)

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Postby Unicario » Fri May 02, 2014 6:21 pm

Looks like a cheap version of baseball, which will be the more popular sport of the two in Japan. Japan and the Confederacy will probably end up hosting a Pan-Pacific Cup every so often to decide whom amongst the Pacific baseball teams is the best.

Association Football will be the most popular though, b/c Japan is so Britishified now.
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Postby Bojikami » Fri May 02, 2014 6:22 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Well, since we're not allowed to invent actual sports early, I introduce to you my newest and greatest creation (Basically something I came up within a seconds time, and refined within a few minutes). I present to you the sport that will be started cooperatively with Russian and French Leagues, and will hopefully spread to become a European-dominant sport and be the second biggest sport in this AH RP next to Baseball. I give you; Longball!!!
So, the jist of the sport and its regulations/ rules are below. These are the rules according to the joint- Cooperative Longball Athletic Conference or CLAC, jointly between French and Russian teams.

LONGBALL
Rules, Regulations, and a Guide to the Formal Playing of the Game.
A handbook for coaches, an absolute necessity for players


TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Overview
2. Rules
3. Regulations
4. Equipment


Overview
Longball is a sport invented by French and Russian sports enthusiasts. First recommended in November 30th, 1835, in Lyon, France, during a joint-athletic competition and training camp between Russian and French athletes, Longball's formal founder is a man by the name of Siegfrield Steinman, a French Belgian from Rennes. The sport was later refined by Russian and French athletes Gregory Zimbolf, Alexander Karishnov, and Edward Hebber. Longball consists of aspects of both offense and defense play styles. The team on offense consists of a squadron entirely made of players with Longsticks. The Offense lineup and Defense lineup match up, and the normal amount of players is 11 players. The defensive lineup consists of both Longstick men, and Defensive Guards. Defensive Guards purely use their hands and are tasked with tackling offensive runners. In essence, the sport happens in terms of possession, with one team on offense and one team on defense. The offensive team gets 5 downs to get 10 yards on the field. They can accomplish this by running with the ball in their stick, passing it, or ground-passing it. Running means the player who yells: "Randon!" (Ran-Don) who starts with the ball when that person initiates the play has to either run with it themselves or pass it off to another runner by dropping it or short-passing it to the runner. The passing play involves someone throwing the ball up in the air towards the person past or on the 10 yard mark or further, or depending on if they're just trying to advance the ball, before the 10 yard mark. Ground-passing involves bounding the ball off the ground by throwing it, since the ball is a white bouncy ball, it can bounce off the ground and into another Longstick. The rules for the offense is that no players are guards, as its a strictly defensive position. Because of this, these players must hold their sticks. If they wish to block or tackle a defensive player to avoid the person with the ball to be tackled, then they must do it while holding the stick. Because of such, is why Longstick men wear the standard helmet and padding gear. The way a down works and how the defense stops the play is a few ways: The defense tackles the person with the ball: (either a guard or a sticksmen), a person on the defensive team hits the ball and it falls on the ground before being caught by an offensive player's stick. Or, the defensive player's stick touches the ball, but hits it to the ground, or catches the ball, which is an interception, and then automatically results in a moving play for the defense and they transition to the offense. Defensive players can have any number of guards to sticksmen ratio. It is better to equal this number out though, depending on the scouting and speed of the offensive team. Defensive teams must stop players from making more than 10 yards within 5 downs, or else it is an automatic first down against. The offense has the opportunity of throwing the ball (with the stick) or punting to the defensive team instead of allowing them to pick up where they left off on an incomplete 5th down. The way a goal is made is if the offensive player catches, runs or ground-catches the ball while standing in the end-zone. After a goal is made, teams are allowed to go for a Field Goal (Different from a goal, where the player attempts to throw the ball (With a Longstick) into the Field Goal Net, from 17 yards away. Or they can run it from the 20 yard line and attempt for a 2-point conversion. Goals are 4 points, FG's are 1 point, Conversions are 2 points. No offensive player can hold the ball at all unless with their stick. If they touch the ball with their hand, it's an automatic 5th down, and/or disqualification of the player from the game depending on the call and agreement of the officials.

Rules
-No disorderly or inappropriate conduct towards officials or said player will be penalized, team will be penalized, or disqualified. No enhancing performance contraptions or medications. No illegal drugs (Depending on said team. If game is at home, and in that country drugs are illegal those drugs [As long as they do not enhance performance] are allowed to be used by either team. If in a country with laws against said drugs, it is a no. Home-field rules for this rule
-No cheating, any said cheating will result in officials' judgement
-Any other regular sports rule for general sports applies
-All equipment subject to inspection by the CLAC
-All coaches must follow their handbooks given to them
-No illegal plays or intentional plays that involve players trying to injure the player they tackled more than just tackling them to end the play.
-No fighting allowed.
-Fans are subject to removal by officials if said officials try to remove fans from smaller, crowd-controllable games.
-Rules must be given for all players and coaches to read.
-If any other rule is up for question, ask a CLAC Representative

Regulations
-FG's are from 17 yards away
-Conversions at 20 yard line
-No offensive player touches ball with hand at any time
-FG's 1 point, Goal 4 points, Conversion 2 points
-Maximum Roster for teams (With lineup players and subs) is 25 players.
-Rectangular field 120 yards long by 53.33 yards wide
-Field Goal Posts at end
-End zone 10 yards long by 53⅓
-Only 11 players in at any one time.
-Field Goal Posts are to be exactly 53 feet 4 inches apart, and crossbar 10 feet above playing field. Side vertical posts are to be 30 feet tall.
-All sticks are to be the same, except for Long-Receivers, who may use the Large Longball Sticks.
-All Guards must wear Guard Helmets and Gear.
-All players drink water only.
-All players eat regulation foods only during game times.
-Each team is allowed to and must have a visiting and home locker room in the underbellies of the stadium. All teams must come prepared with athletic trainers, coaches, additional staff, and warm-up trainers, as well as medics and such. For serious, critical injuries, State, Province, Town, City, or National level Law Enforcement or Medical staff will be employed for both injuries and said issues with security and crowd-control.

Equipment

-Mandatory Sticksmen Equipment
(Required)
-Longball Stick (For Long-Receivers, Large Longball Sticks)
-Standard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest area and shoulder pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Padding in arms, legs, shoes, neck area, hands.
-Gloves for catching (Defensive gloves when on defense, which are made bigger and bolder to swat balls to the ground)

-Mandatory Guard Equipment
(Required)
-Guard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest are and shoulder pads, stomach pad, hip pads, and back pelvis pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Guard Gloves (Even larger than Defensive Gloves for Sticksmen. Can swat a ball very easily, and are like a Hockey-Goalie Glove.
-Knee, Leg, Shoe, Neck Area, and Hand pads or braces/skin guards.

(In Winter and Fall, all positions are required to wear long pants, and long sleeves, and in Summer and Spring, these are optional.)

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Postby The Vaktovian Empire » Fri May 02, 2014 6:28 pm

Unicario wrote:Looks like a cheap version of baseball, which will be the more popular sport of the two in Japan. Japan and the Confederacy will probably end up hosting a Pan-Pacific Cup every so often to decide whom amongst the Pacific baseball teams is the best.

Association Football will be the most popular though, b/c Japan is so Britishified now.


:palm:

It is obviously a cheap knock-off of Football>Lacrosse combining forces. And also, UPDATE: Formal pictures added, check post.

-Also, Boji, glad you have decided so wisely ;)

-And this, I am hoping will be like the FIFA of this RP, since I'm kicking this off in 1838. I'm confused on how we'd play though. I was thinking maybe make stat sheets for our players based on categories I make for the sport (since it's my sport) and then based on those, and who is checked into the game, and who is bulky, those tackled or said to be tackled by the person playing the person being tackled would depend on whether the guy is seriously injured or not. Also, it would depend on who is in the game. Of course, France and Russia already have the best teams so far, because they've been playing this since 1835. the CLAC might get renamed, should we get other countries. Boji, since the wedding hasn't started yet, expect a meeting between Lachapelle, Nicholas I, Constantine, and Ivan about the sport of Longball in our countries later.

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Postby Luziyca » Fri May 02, 2014 6:31 pm

The Vaktovian Empire wrote:Well, since we're not allowed to invent actual sports early, I introduce to you my newest and greatest creation (Basically something I came up within a seconds time, and refined within a few minutes). I present to you the sport that will be started cooperatively with Russian and French Leagues, and will hopefully spread to become a European-dominant sport and be the second biggest sport in this AH RP next to Baseball. I give you; Longball!!!
So, the jist of the sport and its regulations/ rules are below. These are the rules according to the joint- Cooperative Longball Athletic Conference or CLAC, jointly between French and Russian teams.

LONGBALL
Rules, Regulations, and a Guide to the Formal Playing of the Game.
A handbook for coaches, an absolute necessity for players


TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Overview
2. Rules
3. Regulations
4. Equipment


Overview
Longball is a sport invented by French and Russian sports enthusiasts. First recommended in November 30th, 1835, in Lyon, France, during a joint-athletic competition and training camp between Russian and French athletes, Longball's formal founder is a man by the name of Siegfrield Steinman, a French Belgian from Rennes. The sport was later refined by Russian and French athletes Gregory Zimbolf, Alexander Karishnov, and Edward Hebber. Longball consists of aspects of both offense and defense play styles. The team on offense consists of a squadron entirely made of players with Longsticks. The Offense lineup and Defense lineup match up, and the normal amount of players is 11 players. The defensive lineup consists of both Longstick men, and Defensive Guards. Defensive Guards purely use their hands and are tasked with tackling offensive runners. In essence, the sport happens in terms of possession, with one team on offense and one team on defense. The offensive team gets 5 downs to get 10 yards on the field. They can accomplish this by running with the ball in their stick, passing it, or ground-passing it. Running means the player who yells: "Randon!" (Ran-Don) who starts with the ball when that person initiates the play has to either run with it themselves or pass it off to another runner by dropping it or short-passing it to the runner. The passing play involves someone throwing the ball up in the air towards the person past or on the 10 yard mark or further, or depending on if they're just trying to advance the ball, before the 10 yard mark. Ground-passing involves bounding the ball off the ground by throwing it, since the ball is a white bouncy ball, it can bounce off the ground and into another Longstick. The rules for the offense is that no players are guards, as its a strictly defensive position. Because of this, these players must hold their sticks. If they wish to block or tackle a defensive player to avoid the person with the ball to be tackled, then they must do it while holding the stick. Because of such, is why Longstick men wear the standard helmet and padding gear. The way a down works and how the defense stops the play is a few ways: The defense tackles the person with the ball: (either a guard or a sticksmen), a person on the defensive team hits the ball and it falls on the ground before being caught by an offensive player's stick. Or, the defensive player's stick touches the ball, but hits it to the ground, or catches the ball, which is an interception, and then automatically results in a moving play for the defense and they transition to the offense. Defensive players can have any number of guards to sticksmen ratio. It is better to equal this number out though, depending on the scouting and speed of the offensive team. Defensive teams must stop players from making more than 10 yards within 5 downs, or else it is an automatic first down against. The offense has the opportunity of throwing the ball (with the stick) or punting to the defensive team instead of allowing them to pick up where they left off on an incomplete 5th down. The way a goal is made is if the offensive player catches, runs or ground-catches the ball while standing in the end-zone. After a goal is made, teams are allowed to go for a Field Goal (Different from a goal, where the player attempts to throw the ball (With a Longstick) into the Field Goal Net, from 17 yards away. Or they can run it from the 20 yard line and attempt for a 2-point conversion. Goals are 4 points, FG's are 1 point, Conversions are 2 points. No offensive player can hold the ball at all unless with their stick. If they touch the ball with their hand, it's an automatic 5th down, and/or disqualification of the player from the game depending on the call and agreement of the officials.

Rules
-No disorderly or inappropriate conduct towards officials or said player will be penalized, team will be penalized, or disqualified. No enhancing performance contraptions or medications. No illegal drugs (Depending on said team. If game is at home, and in that country drugs are illegal those drugs [As long as they do not enhance performance] are allowed to be used by either team. If in a country with laws against said drugs, it is a no. Home-field rules for this rule
-No cheating, any said cheating will result in officials' judgement
-Any other regular sports rule for general sports applies
-All equipment subject to inspection by the CLAC
-All coaches must follow their handbooks given to them
-No illegal plays or intentional plays that involve players trying to injure the player they tackled more than just tackling them to end the play.
-No fighting allowed.
-Fans are subject to removal by officials if said officials try to remove fans from smaller, crowd-controllable games.
-Rules must be given for all players and coaches to read.
-If any other rule is up for question, ask a CLAC Representative

Regulations
-FG's are from 17 yards away
-Conversions at 20 yard line
-No offensive player touches ball with hand at any time
-FG's 1 point, Goal 4 points, Conversion 2 points
-Maximum Roster for teams (With lineup players and subs) is 25 players.
-Rectangular field 120 yards long by 53.33 yards wide
-Field Goal Posts at end
-End zone 10 yards long by 53⅓
-Only 11 players in at any one time.
-Field Goal Posts are to be exactly 53 feet 4 inches apart, and crossbar 10 feet above playing field. Side vertical posts are to be 30 feet tall.
-All sticks are to be the same, except for Long-Receivers, who may use the Large Longball Sticks.
-All Guards must wear Guard Helmets and Gear.
-All players drink water only.
-All players eat regulation foods only during game times.
-Each team is allowed to and must have a visiting and home locker room in the underbellies of the stadium. All teams must come prepared with athletic trainers, coaches, additional staff, and warm-up trainers, as well as medics and such. For serious, critical injuries, State, Province, Town, City, or National level Law Enforcement or Medical staff will be employed for both injuries and said issues with security and crowd-control.

Equipment

-Mandatory Sticksmen Equipment
(Required)
-Longball Stick (For Long-Receivers, Large Longball Sticks)
-Standard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest area and shoulder pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Padding in arms, legs, shoes, neck area, hands.
-Gloves for catching (Defensive gloves when on defense, which are made bigger and bolder to swat balls to the ground)
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-Mandatory Guard Equipment
(Required)
-Guard Helmet
-Padding in Upper Chest are and shoulder pads, stomach pad, hip pads, and back pelvis pads.
-Longball Cleats
(Optional)
-Guard Gloves (Even larger than Defensive Gloves for Sticksmen. Can swat a ball very easily, and are like a Hockey-Goalie Glove.
-Knee, Leg, Shoe, Neck Area, and Hand pads or braces/skin guards.
Guard


(In Winter and Fall, all positions are required to wear long pants, and long sleeves, and in Summer and Spring, these are optional.)

Longball Field Goal Post

Guyana and Crimea will have longball.

In China (and its colonies), association football will catch on, but baseball will only arrive in the 1850s (from Japanese merchants) and become one of the top sports alongside association football and chowgan/polo. Chowgan would become popular in Kenya, to such a point that despite difficulties, games of chowgan/polo were very popular.
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