Smoke and Steel: An alt-history RP (OOC/Now Closed)

by **Halleon** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:43 pm

Blassland wrote:have the Hansa been destroyed at this point? looks like Lunas is inactive

I seen Lunas post in another thread so I'm guessing he quit this one or has been focused on other rp's. I'm not really sure but I think hes been telegramed and hasn't appeared back so maybe we should move on without him so Russia isn't left waiting forever for the Luna to post.

by **United Federation of the World** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:50 pm

United Federation of the World wrote:Nation Name: The Kingdome of Austria-Hungary

National Flag: http://images.wikia.com/althistory/imag ... ungary.png

Claims: Unclaimed area in Europe.

Form of Government: Absolute Monacrhy

Head of State: King Fredrick I of Hungary

Capital City: Budapest

Population: 21.5 Million

Military Size: 20,000

Military Type: a strict modern military has lead Hungary to many victories on the battlefield. Very organized and cutting edge. The military is small for the population but of very high caliber. The leaders strongly believe in quality over quanity which more Europeans favor. The small force is highly trained and ready at a moments notice to fight for king and country. The downside is getting newer troops takes much longer. Not only do these people need to become trained in the advandce technology Austria-Hungary uses as standards but they must also be to meet the physical expectations of a soldier.

Naval Strength: None. (Landlocked)

Economic Strength: Being an area of travel Austria-Hungary has a very high economy. It not only uses it's position to it's advantage but the royal marriages to many royal families of Europe makes it comfortable in the trade circle around the world. The increased roads in the North help, plus the low military compared to other European countries makes for a much better economy.
Land Routes: The paved roads of Austria-Hungary stretch far and wide in the North and around major cities like Vienna and Budapest. There are dirt roads in the south but these are being worked on. The process for building new roads takes time and money but the thriving economy helps the government transform the south. These roads could take many years still.

Sea Routes None under their own control but the crown sees a major objective in gaining land bordering the sea for economic and military reasons. Some have heard that they may even rent land or port access from the other countries bordering the sea and Austria_Hungary

Primary Goals: Continue friendly diplomatic realations with Europe, Gain a colony on another continet, and Expand mainland Hungary to the North and East by diplomatic or agressive measures, and gain land on the coast to devolp a navy and sea trade.

History: Hungary was a small kingdom that rose to power due to the Austrian's royal marriage to the now King of Hungary. Unifying Hungary under the combined power of Austria and Hungary. Sadly, mush of the Austrian Royal house was killed overtime by blade or by age. The city of Vienna was and is the center for all of the arts. Plays and music flow out of Vienna like water from a stream. It's royal marriages to many of the royal families of Europe has made it a diplomatic hub. Budapest is the center of economics though. Vienna is too close to the border of Prussia to be claimed as the nation's capital. It is still a huge city and the Prussians have a standing realationship with the Hungarians. The King now sits ready to see his kingdom expand though. He has seen others grow but Hungary has always been content. Now he fear the threats of larger nations and quickly seeks a way to spread the Austrian-Hungarian's to other lands and the Northeast. The bold moves are abrupt for the content and rich nation but could prove to be the peice Hungary needs to become an empire!

RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=207796 and
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=210730

I know it may be closed but I am active and ready to jump in. I stay with role-plays as long as they live and become dedicated to whatever I role-play as. Please accept my application and I am sorry for posting even after it is closed. You need Austria though

I have changed the stuff you advised and added, in depth, explainations of some other topics. I hope you find this suitable. I have tried to tailor it. Remember, also, that quality over quanity is major for Austria-Hungary and that we have always been content and peaceful. We are kind of like Switzerland. Except bigger, better, and we consider fighting an option...

by **Blassland** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:55 pm

Halleon wrote:
I seen Lunas post in another thread so I'm guessing he quit this one or has been focused on other rp's. I'm not really sure but I think hes been telegramed and hasn't appeared back so maybe we should move on without him so Russia isn't left waiting forever for the Luna to post.

Ok, good to know
How about we assume that in the face of destruction the government broke down and there was not time to organize resistance, maybe some people fled to Prussia or elsewhere

by **Fortunagen** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:16 pm

Hall, I didn't know you had a Senate! Yay for Representation!

Also, what about the agricultural deal?

by **Halleon** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:48 pm

Fortunagen wrote:Hall, I didn't know you had a Senate! Yay for Representation!

Also, what about the agricultural deal?

Yeah I never got to introduce my Senate in the last role play but its apart of the reforms Charlemagne passed. Most power still remains in the hands of the Emperor but the Senate does have some power and is a platform for representation. I didn't want to make a super long post so I decided to throw the agricultural deal in my next post.

Right now I'm just waiting for someone else to post so I can get my diplomatic post up which will have the agriculture deal in it.

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:15 pm

I've just realized... If one of our colonies turns independant, what happens to it? Do we lose control over it and it's left open for another player to claim it? Do we keep controlling it?

by **Fortunagen** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:27 pm

Dwartzur wrote:I've just realized... If one of our colonies turns independant, what happens to it? Do we lose control over it and it's left open for another player to claim it? Do we keep controlling it?

Well, if it belongs to either Ionia, Prussia, or Poland, I'm interested in a "peaceful annexation"

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:32 pm

Fortunagen wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:I've just realized... If one of our colonies turns independant, what happens to it? Do we lose control over it and it's left open for another player to claim it? Do we keep controlling it?

Well, if it belongs to either Ionia, Prussia, or Poland, I'm interested in a "peaceful annexation"

Oooh you want my fertile soil eh? MY soil! *Grabs it all* >:(

by **Neros** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:47 pm

Blassland wrote:
Halleon wrote:
I seen Lunas post in another thread so I'm guessing he quit this one or has been focused on other rp's. I'm not really sure but I think hes been telegramed and hasn't appeared back so maybe we should move on without him so Russia isn't left waiting forever for the Luna to post.

Ok, good to know
How about we assume that in the face of destruction the government broke down and there was not time to organize resistance, maybe some people fled to Prussia or elsewhere

Flee to Sweden! We will assume trading debts and Hanseatic businesses, and will intervene for the sake of stability! Need more Baltic Islands...

As for the offer against Russia, if the player was anyone but Tyben, I'd love to steal St. Petersburg and castrate a potential rival, but we are on friendly terms ICly and about to foramlize a grand alliance with France and Poland. Together both of those nations outweigh Prussia, so its an overall better deal for me. I don't need to expand in Europe too much, and it takes care of two Baltic Rivals and puts me on a standing with France, at the expense of Prussia.

by **Neros** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:01 pm

Some Swedish Buildings:

Imperial Cathedral

Imperial Riksdag

Grand Mausoleum of Charles XII

Sarcophagus of Charles XII

On King (Emperor) Charles XII:

The First Emperor, Karl XII, lead miraculous campaigns against Poland-Lithuania, Russia, and Denmark-Norway and is well remembered for his tactical brilliance and leadership. His defeat of Denmark-Norway at the Battle of Copenhagen solidified Sweden's position as dominant power in the Baltic and Northern Europe, and thus he was proclaimed an Emperor, though the numerical listing did not change to Charles I upon his own request, as he saw the Empire as a slight renovation and thus continued to use the fictional history of Swedish Kings to determine his and future rulers' numerals.

His reign was but a year long from the Coronation at Christiania after the defeat of Dano-Norwegian Forces at Copenhagen to his tragic death in 1724 from unknown and highly speculative circumstances. He is remembered well in Sweden for his glorious campaigns and as the founder of the Empire. After his death, his sister Ulrika Eleonora married her cousin, a Swedish Noble, and continued the bloodline founded from Karl XII. She ordered the building of a massive Mausoleum, blending Gothic architecture and Roman stylings of the Pantheon in Rome, to house her late brother as a testament of his undying power over the Swedish Empire. His body was sealed in a sarcophagus delicately designed for his final resting place. His Mausoleum and Sarcophagus Room were built akin to a cathedral and a fortress, and was to serve as the place of Coronation of all Swedish Emperors.

Karl XII has become somewhat a folk hero in Sweden, and well-beloved by the masses. People pray to God, the Current Emperor, and Charles XII. However, in his lifetime, he discouraged worship of "idols" as against the Church of Sweden and Protestantism in general, but still, the practice as stuck and serves as a unifying aspect of Swedish society. It is a point of bragging and privilege to say you are related to Karl XII by Noblemen and Commoners alike, with varying accounts of accuracy. Still, 132 Years after his death, he continues to make a dramatic impact upon Sweden.

by **Tyben** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:17 pm

All those who oppose mai army will be excommunicated by the Orthodox Church

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:34 pm

Tyben wrote:All those who oppose mai army will be excommunicated by the Orthodox Church

...Qirim controls Constantinople. He has the Hagia Sofia.

... ...But, as most of the Ionian League worship the ancient greek gods... I don't care.

by **The Soodean Imperium** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:35 pm

Dwartzur wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Well, if it belongs to either Ionia, Prussia, or Poland, I'm interested in a "peaceful annexation"

Oooh you want my fertile soil eh? MY soil! *Grabs it all*

Fools! Our soil is even fertiler! From the Pampas in the South to Gran Chaco in the North, our Argentinian colony was expertly designed to capture nearly all of South America's highly productive Mollisols - the highest-quality USDA classification of farming soil in the world! Bow below our rising mountains of wheat and cattle! :twisted:

@United Federation of the World: At this point, I'll take your word for it. App accepted, you'll have the remaining empty land in Central Europe and the Balkans. Just remember to RP responsibly - any warmongering on your part might provoke some retaliation from your neighbor to the north...

by **Tyben** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:39 pm

Dwartzur wrote:
Tyben wrote:All those who oppose mai army will be excommunicated by the Orthodox Church

...Qirim controls Constantinople. He has the Hagia Sofia.

... ...But, as most of the Ionian League worship the ancient greek gods... I don't care.

My leader is the proclaimed leader of the Orthodox church, patriarch of moscow and Constantinople, I can get you my leaders' full list of titles if you wanna read.

Edit:Full List of my leaders titles:

by **The Soodean Imperium** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Tyben wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:
...Qirim controls Constantinople. He has the Hagia Sofia.

... ...But, as most of the Ionian League worship the ancient greek gods... I don't care.

My leader is the proclaimed leader of the Orthodox church, patriarch of moscow and Constantinople, I can get you my leaders' full list of titles if you wanna read.

Self-proclaimed leader. As you don't control Constantinople, you can declare that he is the leader, but the Qirim can produce their own, more legitimate leader. Sort of a Pope/Antipope thing, with both striving to show their true legitimacy.

by **Neros** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:52 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Tyben wrote:
My leader is the proclaimed leader of the Orthodox church, patriarch of moscow and Constantinople, I can get you my leaders' full list of titles if you wanna read.

Self-proclaimed leader. As you don't control Constantinople, you can declare that he is the leader, but the Qirim can produce their own, more legitimate leader. Sort of a Pope/Antipope thing, with both striving to show their true legitimacy.

Indeed they can. The right of the Nobility, I assume. It's like how Kings in Medieval Europe would declare themselves King of Jerusalem.

by **Tyben** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:53 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Tyben wrote:
My leader is the proclaimed leader of the Orthodox church, patriarch of moscow and Constantinople, I can get you my leaders' full list of titles if you wanna read.

Self-proclaimed leader. As you don't control Constantinople, you can declare that he is the leader, but the Qirim can produce their own, more legitimate leader. Sort of a Pope/Antipope thing, with both striving to show their true legitimacy.

You forget the patriarch of Moscow, who is the head of the Orthodox Church in his own right(the Russian one), and he is the self proclaimed patriarch in Constantinople and Armenia.

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:09 pm

Tyben wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:
...Qirim controls Constantinople. He has the Hagia Sofia.

... ...But, as most of the Ionian League worship the ancient greek gods... I don't care.

My leader is the proclaimed leader of the Orthodox church, patriarch of moscow and Constantinople, I can get you my leaders' full list of titles if you wanna read.

Edit:Full List of my leaders titles:

By the Grace of God, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russians, Tsar Nicholas VI of Russia, Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, of Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod, Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Tauric Chersonesos, Tsar of Georgia,
Lord of Pskov, and Grand Duke of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Prince ofEstonia, Livonia,
Courland and Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugra, Perm, Vyatka, Bulgaria and other territories; Lord and Grand Duke of Nizhni Novgorod, Sovereign of Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk,
Yaroslavl, Beloozero, Udoria, Obdoria, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislavl, and all northern territories; Sovereign of Iveria, Kartalinia, and the Kabardinian lands and Armenian territories - hereditary Lord and Ruler of the Circassians and Mountain Princes and others; Lord of Turkestan, Autocrat of Alaska, Archduke of Persia, King of Crimea and Serbia, Emperor of Manchuria, Imperator of Turkey, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, Oldenburg, Tsar of Khazan, The Successor to The Legacy of the Great Khan, Defender of the Baltic Sea, Dauphin of the Slavs, Pretender to the throne of Spain, The Exalted, The Great, The Holy, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Supreme Leader of Christianity, Patriarch of Moscow, Guardian of all the Slavs, Father of the People, Emperor of The Three Romes, Lord and Protector of the Faith, and Seraphim of The One True God, Yahweh

Yeah, half of those titles are just words.

by **Halleon** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:13 pm

I just read your full list of title's and a few of them got me to laugh, did you come up with some of those on your own or did a Russian Monarch actually use all of those?

by **Tyben** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:16 pm

Halleon wrote:I just read your full list of title's and a few of them got me to laugh, did you come up with some of those on your own or did a Russian Monarch actually use all of those?

Most of them I took from Russian monarchs lol. Others, I just added; majority of that list is the titles of Alexander I of Russia.

by **Fortunagen** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:18 pm

Tyben wrote:
Halleon wrote:I just read your full list of title's and a few of them got me to laugh, did you come up with some of those on your own or did a Russian Monarch actually use all of those?

Most of them I took from Russian monarchs lol. Others, I just added; majority of that list is the titles of Alexander I of Russia.

I remember I was in an RP once where as a joke one guy spoliered his ruler's titles, it literally was around 1500 words...

by **Halleon** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:19 pm

Tyben wrote:
Halleon wrote:I just read your full list of title's and a few of them got me to laugh, did you come up with some of those on your own or did a Russian Monarch actually use all of those?

Most of them I took from Russian monarchs lol. Others, I just added; majority of that list is the titles of Alexander I of Russia.

I was reading it and wasn't expecting the Pretender to the throne of Spain title that was one that got me to laugh. :lol:

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:23 pm

Tyben wrote:
Halleon wrote:I just read your full list of title's and a few of them got me to laugh, did you come up with some of those on your own or did a Russian Monarch actually use all of those?

Most of them I took from Russian monarchs lol. Others, I just added; majority of that list is the titles of Alexander I of Russia.

Yeah, like... Check this. lol

Tyben wrote:Tsar of Poland

Tyben wrote:Tsar of Georgia

Tyben wrote:Lithuania

Tyben wrote:Prince of Estonia, Livonia

Tyben wrote:Bulgaria

Tyben wrote:Armenian territories

Tyben wrote:Archduke of Persia, King of Crimea and Serbia, Emperor of Manchuria, Imperator of Turkey

For those and many others: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooope.

by **Tyben** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:24 pm

Dwartzur wrote:
Tyben wrote:
Most of them I took from Russian monarchs lol. Others, I just added; majority of that list is the titles of Alexander I of Russia.

Yeah, like... Check this. lol

Tyben wrote:Tsar of Poland

Tyben wrote:Tsar of Georgia

Tyben wrote:Lithuania

Tyben wrote:Prince of Estonia, Livonia

Tyben wrote:Bulgaria

Tyben wrote:Armenian territories

Tyben wrote:Archduke of Persia, King of Crimea and Serbia, Emperor of Manchuria, Imperator of Turkey

For those and many others: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooope.

Didn't I just say that a lot of them were other monarch's titles? lol. As far as the one about being tsar of Poland, I need to remove that. >_>

By the way, I'm going to deploy a massive army to Crimea soon. Be prepared.

by **Dwartzur** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:40 pm

Tyben wrote:
Dwartzur wrote:
Yeah, like... Check this. lol

For those and many others: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooope.

Didn't I just say that a lot of them were other monarch's titles? lol. As far as the one about being tsar of Poland, I need to remove that. >_>

Yuuup... There's a lot to remove.

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