Steam & Steel: New Imperialism (OOC/Signups)

[Caltarania]

Mhm, I was thinking of allying with either Britain, France or Germany, and basically hiding behind them while I build up my power and empire in the Pacific.

How about you ally with Britain, France, and Russian and in return Britain will let you take Hawaii.

I think Ill just ally with everyone xD

If I ally with Britain and Germany, and WWI happens.... what the hell do I do? Send soldiers to support both sides? xD

[New Sapienta]

How about you ally with Britain, France, and Russian and in return Britain will let you take Hawaii.

I think Ill just ally with everyone xD

If I ally with Britain and Germany, and WWI happens.... what the hell do I do? Send soldiers to support both sides? xD

You'd have to choose a side.

[Sabara]

I think Ill just ally with everyone xD

If I ally with Britain and Germany, and WWI happens.... what the hell do I do? Send soldiers to support both sides? xD

You'd have to choose a side.

Ally moi <33

[Parhe]

I think in the case of a World War the Hapsburg will rather try to stay out of the turmoil.

[New Sapienta]

You'd have to choose a side.

Ally moi <33

Well, we can't all ally with everyone.

[Caltarania]

I think Ill just ally with everyone xD

If I ally with Britain and Germany, and WWI happens.... what the hell do I do? Send soldiers to support both sides? xD

You'd have to choose a side.

Wouldn't I be able to be neutral, though? I could just use the excuse that "I couldn't possibly go to war the nations I love so very much"?

[New Sapienta]

You'd have to choose a side.

Wouldn't I be able to be neutral, though? I could just use the excuse that "I couldn't possibly go to war the nations I love so very much"?

You'd break both alliances doing that.

[Caltarania]

Mhm, I was thinking of allying with either Britain, France or Germany, and basically hiding behind them while I build up my power and empire in the Pacific.

I already have a military mission in Japan and am only looking to expand in Africa, so why can't we be friends?

Sure. But, if a world war breaks out I'll either pick Britain or stay neutral (Sorry, I'm a Brit IRL, I can't help my patriotism xD!)

Wouldn't I be able to be neutral, though? I could just use the excuse that "I couldn't possibly go to war the nations I love so very much"?

You'd break both alliances doing that.

So, what you're saying is, If war breaks out, support both sides! Then I break no alliances!

Logic.

[Parhe]

I already have a military mission in Japan and am only looking to expand in Africa, so why can't we be friends?

Sure. But, if a world war breaks out I'll either pick Britain or stay neutral (Sorry, I'm a Brit IRL, I can't help my patriotism xD!)

You'd break both alliances doing that.

So, what you're saying is, If war breaks out, support both sides! Then I break no alliances!

Logic.

Well, currently Germany and Britain aren't enemies.

[Sabara]

Sure. But, if a world war breaks out I'll either pick Britain or stay neutral (Sorry, I'm a Brit IRL, I can't help my patriotism xD!)




So, what you're saying is, If war breaks out, support both sides! Then I break no alliances!

Logic.

Well, currently Germany and Britain aren't enemies.

Hey, may we have a current map of alliances?

[Caltarania]

Well, currently Germany and Britain aren't enemies.

Hey, may we have a current map of alliances?

Bump, seconded, supported.

Sure. But, if a world war breaks out I'll either pick Britain or stay neutral (Sorry, I'm a Brit IRL, I can't help my patriotism xD!)




So, what you're saying is, If war breaks out, support both sides! Then I break no alliances!

Logic.

Well, currently Germany and Britain aren't enemies.

Thats nice, good to see possibly two of the most similar nations (Disregard all the new world countries that got independence) getting along nicely.

[Parhe]

Well, currently Germany and Britain aren't enemies.

Hey, may we have a current map of alliances?

I am not sure if any alliances have been made officially. I myself am discussing alliances with you, the Nederlands that is, Anatolia, and China. With Russia we are not discussing an alliance really but more an alliance not to attack each other. An alliance with Germany, depending on history, and Korea is already set. I told Switzerland in the OOC that I wouldn't mind being allied or at least friends with him. I also had wished to be allied with Bulgaria but I do not know yet. Everyone else I am rather neutral towards and hold no grudges.

[Caltarania]

Well, I think Im gonna set up an East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. China and Korea you want in? Obviously, myself and Siam will be in it because Siam is my little doggy-ally and follows me everywhere xD

[Sabara]

Just to make sure everyone invited to the summit in Amsterdam sees this, you are welcome to post your arrivals at the Verhevene Hof/Kinkerstraat.

[Workser]

Thank you Parhe for the "help"
If you have problems shoot my slave master friend not me

NS Name: Workser
Nation Name: Sinsagug
Claimed Territory: Korea and Manchuria
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Emperor Zaitian
Capital City: Sodo
Economic System: Capitalism
Currency: Korean Krone
Population: 49,011,689 (For changes in the history. Has twenty two million on Korea and twenty seven on Manchuria)
-Military Size (Active): 490,117
-Military Size (Reserves/Conscripts): 1,960,468
-Number of Naval Ships: 5 Ironclads, 4 Corvettes, 4 Frigates, 3 Armored Frigates, 3 Torpedo Ships, dozens of more traditional ships are still employed
Primary/State Religion: Buddhism
Primary Culture: Jurchen and Korean
Secondary Culture(s): Chinese and Japanese
Primary Exports: Agricultural Products, Fur, Crafts, Silk, Textiles, Coal
Flag: Flag

Players have 49 points to distribute plus one bonus point based on their nation's specialty and an additional bonus point if they are a great power.
Industrial Rating: 7
Agricultural Rating: 5
Technological Rating: 8
Infrastructure Rating: 5
Military Rating: 8
Centralization Rating: 8
Stability Rating: 8

Briefly describe your Nation's history. After conquering most of Manchuria the Qing conquered invaded Joseon with much less success than in real life. As result the Qing retired the idea of conquering the rest of China and instead stuck with its land in Manchuria and Korea. The royal families of both nations were unified through marriage. A major revolution lead primarily by the Koreans, who lived ruled by the Manchurian minority and were cut off from settlement in Manchuria, in 1754 took a heavy toll on the agricultural lands of Korea- not as bad as the damage done in the Japanese Invasion. The revolt led to the court moving to Pyongyang on the peninsula where most the population lived at the time, and opened up Manchuria to Korean and, to a lesser extent, Chinese settlement. Also because of the revolt urbanization was sped up as many farmers had lost their livelihood. Sinsagug was forcibly open to trade by the United States of Hapsburg in 1824 through gunboat diplomacy, resulting in loss of Mokpo, though Sinsagug was able to modernize rather quickly with Hapsburg help.

Briefly describe your Nation's government. Sinsagug is ruled by an emperor, yet restricted by the unicameral legislature, elected by the people. The government is centralized with a ruling, land owning aristocrat class and a growing middle class fueled by international trade.

Briefly describe your Nation's economic system. Sinsagug is capitalist with some trade restrictions for unfriendly nations but most nations that trade with me have very little to no tariffs and restrictions. Sinsagug has an economy centered a lot on large multi industry conglomerates that in whole are involved in many industries.

RP Example: Have none but not a great power so is it okay? I could just start my rp portfolio with this.

[Caltarania]

Just to make sure everyone invited to the summit in Amsterdam sees this, you are welcome to post your arrivals at the Verhevene Hof/Kinkerstraat.

Whaaat? I wasn't invited and don't know what that is, so can you explain to me and also invite me? Cheers.

[Parhe]

Just to make sure everyone invited to the summit in Amsterdam sees this, you are welcome to post your arrivals at the Verhevene Hof/Kinkerstraat.

Stepped out just a bit ago. I will post when I get home later.

[Vehemia]

Thank you Parhe for the "help"
If you have problems shoot my slave master friend not me

NS Name: Workser
Nation Name: Sinsagug
Claimed Territory: Korea and Manchuria
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Emperor Zaitian
Capital City: Sodo
Economic System: Capitalism
Currency: Korean Krone
Population: 49,011,689 (For changes in the history. Has twenty two million on Korea and twenty seven on Manchuria)
-Military Size (Active): 490,117
-Military Size (Reserves/Conscripts): 1,960,468
-Number of Naval Ships: 5 Ironclads, 4 Corvettes, 7 Frigates, 3 Torpedo Ships, dozens of more traditional ships are still employed
Primary/State Religion: Buddhism
Primary Culture: Jurchen and Korean
Secondary Culture(s): Chinese and Japanese
Primary Exports: Agricultural Products, Fur, Crafts, Silk, Textiles, Coal
Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Fringeless).svg

Players have 49 points to distribute plus one bonus point based on their nation's specialty and an additional bonus point if they are a great power.
Industrial Rating: 7
Agricultural Rating: 5
Technological Rating: 8
Infrastructure Rating: 5
Military Rating: 8
Centralization Rating: 8
Stability Rating: 8

Briefly describe your Nation's history. After conquering most of Manchuria the Qing conquered invaded Joseon with much less success than in real life. As result the Qing retired the idea of conquering the rest of China and instead stuck with its land in Manchuria and Korea. The royal families of both nations were unified through marriage. A major revolution lead primarily by the Koreans, who lived ruled by the Manchurian minority and were cut off from settlement in Manchuria, in 1754 took a heavy toll on the agricultural lands of Korea- not as bad as the damage done in the Japanese Invasion. The revolt led to the court moving to Pyongyang on the peninsula where most the population lived at the time, and opened up Manchuria to Korean and, to a lesser extent, Chinese settlement. Also because of the revolt urbanization was sped up as many farmers had lost their livelihood. Sinsagug was forcibly open to trade by the United States of Hapsburg in 1824 through gunboat diplomacy, resulting in loss of Mokpo, though Sinsagug was able to modernize rather quickly with Hapsburg help.

Briefly describe your Nation's government. Sinsagug is ruled by an emperor, yet restricted by the unicameral legislature, elected by the people. The government is centralized with a ruling, land owning aristocrat class and a growing middle class fueled by international trade.

Briefly describe your Nation's economic system. Sinsagug is capitalist with some trade restrictions for unfriendly nations but most nations that trade with me have very little to no tariffs and restrictions. Sinsagug has an economy centered a lot on large multi industry conglomerates that in whole are involved in many industries.

RP Example: Have none but not a great power so is it okay? I could just start my rp portfolio with this.

Accepted, maybe you and Germany can be friends?

[Caltarania]

Also, I wanted to change my history a bit, so that Japan was opened up earlier. Any nation wanna volunteer to have discovered us?

[Parhe]

Also, I wanted to change my history a bit, so that Japan was opened up earlier. Any nation wanna volunteer to have discovered us?

I would if you liked it

[Vehemia]

Also, I wanted to change my history a bit, so that Japan was opened up earlier. Any nation wanna volunteer to have discovered us?

Well Japan has been trading with Europe since the 1540s, they just closed themselves off and didn't open up again until the Americans forced them to in the 1850s

[Sabara]

Also, I wanted to change my history a bit, so that Japan was opened up earlier. Any nation wanna volunteer to have discovered us?

Me

[Caltarania]

Also, I wanted to change my history a bit, so that Japan was opened up earlier. Any nation wanna volunteer to have discovered us?

Well Japan has been trading with Europe since the 1540s, they just closed themselves off and didn't open up again until the Americans forced them to in the 1850s

Okay, so would it be plausible for us to not close ourselves off? Or is that a far too early POD with too many butterflies? I'm gonna assume so.

I'd guess it'd make the most sense for Hapsburg to discover us, what year?

[Parhe]

Well Japan has been trading with Europe since the 1540s, they just closed themselves off and didn't open up again until the Americans forced them to in the 1850s

Okay, so would it be plausible for us to not close ourselves off? Or is that a far too early POD with too many butterflies? I'm gonna assume so.

I'd guess it'd make the most sense for Hapsburg to discover us, what year?

Well we only got serious in about 1800-1810 after withdrawing from the Napoleonic wars. If it helps relations I will give back most of Kyushu, and just keep a tiny coastal city

[Sabara]

May I have a little city on Kyushu too?